What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

Um...it's 3am, and I'm tired? That's a good excuse. I'll use that.

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Haha ok fair enough.

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Originally Posted by 1stLightHorse

Wow, so surely this could not have been Slavic invasion??

You must descend from some of the first modern humans in the balkans.

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For record, I only made threads about specific I2a2b coming from slavic invasion, not all I2* variants. While I2 *could* have come with the migrations of I2a2b, who really knows, we know that the original people of the Balkans as well as entire Europe were I people. I is the true haplogroup of the Europeans. There is a study that the ancient Thracians, before even neolithic invasions, had the same haplogroup as Sardinians who are a I2* something people.

im j2b2 specifically

I've never done the test, but I'm pretty sure I'd come as R1b-S28/U152.

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Originally Posted by ninjerpander

im j2b2 specifically

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Really?
I'm j2-m12

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Originally Posted by lianohortaroudia

Really?
I'm j2-m12

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You are female are you not? Did your father or brother test?

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Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan

For record, I only made threads about specific I2a2b coming from slavic invasion, not all I2* variants. While I2 *could* have come with the migrations of I2a2b, who really knows, we know that the original people of the Balkans as well as entire Europe were I people. I is the true haplogroup of the Europeans. There is a study that the ancient Thracians, before even neolithic invasions, had the same haplogroup as Sardinians who are a I2* something people.

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There's a lot og G for sardinians too, though, and ancient G-men show sardinian affinity.

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

There's a lot og G for sardinians too, though, and ancient G-men show sardinian affinity.

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According to this Sardinians are 42% haplogroup I (of which the majority is I2a1), the second most common haplogroup is R1b (22%) then G2a (15%). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_people#Y-DNA

The one found most commonly in the Balkans is I2a2b. Very close but still separated from the Sardinian one by about 10,000 years. Now when you go back to I2 (which is the ancestor of the I2a and I2b lines) we talk about something in the neighborhood of 40,000 years. That's how old my specific one is.

G2 came to Europe during the neolithic invasions, it shows highest concentration in southern Kavkaz. The only true haplogroup of the Europeans (the oldest to Europe) are the I haplogroups.

M269+ L23-

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Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan

According to this Sardinians are 42% haplogroup I (of which the majority is I2a1), the second most common haplogroup is R1b (22%) then G2a (15%). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_people#Y-DNA

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According to the thesis of Francalacci there is a low internal diversity among sequenced I2a1 samples from Sardinia and everything points at a bottlekneck that had happened relatively recent. I think that neolithic Sardinians could've been predominantly G2a and E with some token I2 from assimilated hunters-gatherers.