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10-26-2020, 11:37 PM
mitalit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defcon2

Cada vez más guanche.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.9852% / 0.03985239
44.2 EEF
23.6 CANARY-GUANCHE
20.4 STEPPE
6.6 WHG
2.6 EHG
2.0 DRAVIDIAN
0.6 AFRICA-SOUTHEAST

Creo que es la calculadora definitiva. Como la ves? Igual pongo de moda esta referencia tan buena:
CANARY-GUANCHE,0.0409760,0.1355730,0.0220615,-0.0250325,0.0364685,-0.0157575,-0.0176260,0.0065770,0.0378370,0.0340780,0.0015425, 0.0011240,0.0002975,-0.0184415,0.0168970,0.0022540,0.0101700,-0.0206490,-0.0235055,0.0078785,-0.0077985,-0.0179300,0.0139885,0.0033135,0.00281
10-26-2020, 11:38 PM
Defcon2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Creo que es la calculadora definitiva. Como la ves? Igual pongo de moda esta referencia tan buena:
CANARY-GUANCHE,0.0409760,0.1355730,0.0220615,-0.0250325,0.0364685,-0.0157575,-0.0176260,0.0065770,0.0378370,0.0340780,0.0015425, 0.0011240,0.0002975,-0.0184415,0.0168970,0.0022540,0.0101700,-0.0206490,-0.0235055,0.0078785,-0.0077985,-0.0179300,0.0139885,0.0033135,0.00281

Si por supuesto, que se vea como de morunos somos en realidad los españoles, no vaya ser que alguien no se haya enterado todavía.
10-27-2020, 12:25 AM
gixajo

Poneos a temblar....:eek:

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Distance to: NorthAfrican:1
0.01404919 Moroccan_North
0.02793485 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.04093808 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04415065 Tunisian
0.04542193 Mozabite
0.04974839 Algerian
0.06456808 Libyan
0.06663989 Moroccan
0.07281514 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.08158005 Saharawi

Distance to: NorthAfrican:2
0.01102687 Mozabite
0.02839161 Algerian
0.03083931 Moroccan
0.03105913 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.03845232 Saharawi
0.03854269 Moroccan_North
0.03902666 Tunisian
0.03917248 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.04463731 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04627936 Berber_MAR_TIZ

Distance to: NorthAfrican:3
0.01769157 Moroccan_North
0.02675323 Mozabite
0.02772729 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.03331448 Algerian
0.03454625 Tunisian
0.03535539 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04747998 Moroccan
0.05274386 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.05828275 Libyan
0.06162441 Saharawi

Distance to: NorthAfrican:4
0.01140470 Mozabite
0.02886063 Algerian
0.02893523 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.03024913 Moroccan
0.03498801 Saharawi
0.03862173 Tunisian
0.03944264 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.04003381 Moroccan_North
0.04372253 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04451641 Berber_MAR_TIZ
10-27-2020, 12:28 AM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marta

Attachment 103237 Attachment 103237

Bienvenida.
10-27-2020, 12:34 AM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Code:

AFRICA-SOUTHEAST,-0.561906333,0.056531333,0.001257,0.024009667,-0.004000333,-0.007623,0.162862667,-0.119995,0.034973333,-0.022961667,-0.008065333,-0.024128333,-0.022695667,-0.000688,0.018593667,-0.016839,0.023512667,0.120818667,-0.035572667,-0.007670333,-0.015639,-0.006017667,0.000246333,-4E-05,-0.006706 AMERO-ASIATIC,0.0387,-0.305674,0.090886,0.086887,-0.082477,-0.018965,-0.129256,-0.155763,-0.01309,-0.025878,0.002436,-0.007793,0.011447,-0.008945,-0.010722,-0.001989,0.000782,0.004181,0.005531,0.014257,-0.009234,0.003091,0.009737,0.005061,0.003592 CHG,0.087644,0.106631,-0.086361,-0.002261,-0.08617,0.0251,0.028436,0.003923,-0.129464,-0.077086,-0.005359,0.023979,-0.056788,0.012386,0.030401,-0.032617,0.025034,-0.012289,-0.021117,0.033641,0.030821,-0.009398,0.009613,-0.022654,-0.001078 DRAVIDIAN,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.180641,0.120157,-0.097557,0.065539,0.0047,0.009461,0.035996,0.026789,-0.002273,0.003747,-0.005649,0.007982,0.003529,0.003182,0.008736,0.001647,0.000126,-0.002001,0.001373,-0.008161,0.000246,-0.001928,-0.008023 EEF,0.123799353,0.183810882,0.010004882,-0.097736118,0.057893118,-0.046164647,-0.003193294,-0.003773529,0.044465882,0.090153294,0.007785,0.014166882,-0.023733294,8.09412E-05,-0.041362706,-0.015411706,0.019580529,0.001594882,0.010521706,-0.011306882,-0.010819118,0.007528235,-0.005118471,-0.002665235,-0.005593059 EHG,0.120368,0.03808225,0.12774975,0.20260275,-0.0100015,0.057591,-0.0198585,-0.02538325,-0.0079765,-0.082553,0.016726,-0.01453675,0.028171,-0.04548425,0.02388675,0.0208495,-0.00805125,0.0006335,-0.0063475,0.016414,-0.005771,0.019568,0.008165,-0.020093,-0.0073345 SIBERIA,0.104717333,-0.067702,0.102325333,0.181311667,-0.093145667,0.039974333,-0.040265333,-0.049690333,-0.02502,-0.084253667,0.024304,-0.012888667,0.024776667,-0.068719667,0.032165667,0.021921333,-0.014255333,-0.008276667,-0.001424667,0.007211667,-0.025829667,0.009851,0.031099667,0.008233667,-0.013492 WHG,0.123688,0.115770333,0.185166,0.187556333,0.155208667,0.051223,0.015510667,0.036844333,0.090263333,0.017859,-0.015697333,-0.015936,0.016253333,-0.005367,0.053564333,0.061256333,0.003607333,0.012711333,-0.009008333,0.054901333,0.09633,0.011087333,-0.049175667,-0.161749667,0.017763 IRAN,0.043395125,0.06867525,-0.1553265,-0.003553,-0.1179065,0.017813875,0.01445325,-0.002105625,-0.079074,-0.053805375,-0.00064975,-0.002941,0.006225125,-0.00815425,0.02862,0.056980375,-0.006796375,0.0072055,0.01194125,-0.03547025,0.008609875,-0.0251325,-0.00896625,-0.035487,0.02204875 LEVANT,0.0700015,0.170609,-0.0267755,-0.1493885,0.0315445,-0.070141,-0.0151585,-0.0148835,0.0751625,0.043281,0.008444,-0.013188,0.030996,-0.004266,-0.019883,0.007889,0.010105,-0.0081715,-0.009113,0.018071,-0.0052405,0.0072955,0.0015405,-0.0010845,-0.004431 NORTH-AMERICA,0.046667,-0.307705,0.109742,0.08721,-0.100634,-0.019801,-0.220675,-0.261681,-0.01268,-0.017677,0.001949,0.000599,0.001784,0.012524,-0.010043,0.010209,0.007302,0.005701,0.013575,0.005002,0.000499,-0.008532,-0.002342,0.001566,-0.001676 SOUTH-AMERICA,0.048727095,-0.311622571,0.118290143,0.096807762,-0.11405781,-0.018380333,-0.286892048,-0.340799,-0.010927429,-0.015941238,0.00225019,-0.001534476,0.000155667,0.021737857,-0.006824762,0.004520619,0.006984762,-0.001104,0.00404619,0.004115095,0.000707143,0.005664524,-0.000786381,-0.001715667,-0.000667143 STEPPE,0.123827526,0.088083737,0.044480421,0.113662947,-0.027697368,0.045576632,0.003957947,-0.002101211,-0.055533579,-0.074812684,-0.000145316,-0.000836105,-0.001572789,-0.022200684,0.036558684,0.01194,-0.004741789,-0.002053684,-0.002811684,0.013052211,-0.004465789,0.002024053,0.012078368,0.021220421,-0.004184842 CENTRAL-ASIA,0.075882222,0.076051778,-0.113094222,0.020600222,-0.108874889,0.029779333,0.012194444,-0.004076889,-0.083468444,-0.054043,-0.000198556,0.001415444,-0.003386333,-0.011438,0.024308889,0.035254,-0.003172778,0.003786667,0.005907778,-0.023024889,0.000443556,-0.017160111,-0.001807667,-0.020739111,0.013065889 AUSTRALIA,-0.041887,-0.23215,-0.208171,0.229266,0.140519,-0.336844,0.00094,0.004384,-0.007976,0.001021,-0.006138,-0.00021,0.001041,-0.000633,-0.003257,-0.000955,0.010665,0.000152,-0.002514,0.007854,0.005016,0.001731,-0.004018,0.002265,-0.004598 ASIA-EAST,0.029512714,-0.413393,0.093175714,-0.016057714,-0.084521214,-0.047949286,0.005321214,0.0091975,0.014229071,0.012352929,-0.015844571,-0.003050857,0.002760786,-0.007441429,-0.004527286,-0.004081786,-0.002514714,0.000887,0.004489286,0.016793714,-0.017709857,-0.006474143,-0.014860071,-0.002616429,0.003669286 CANARY-GUANCHE,0.0409760,0.1355730,0.0220615,-0.0250325,0.0364685,-0.0157575,-0.0176260,0.0065770,0.0378370,0.0340780,0.0015425,0.0011240,0.0002975,-0.0184415,0.0168970,0.0022540,0.0101700,-0.0206490,-0.0235055,0.0078785,-0.0077985,-0.0179300,0.0139885,0.0033135,0.00281

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0352% / 0.03035238
48.6 EEF
27.8 STEPPE
11.8 CANARY-GUANCHE
11.8 WHG

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.8015% / 0.02801500
48.0 EEF
24.2 STEPPE
19.8 CANARY-GUANCHE
8.0 WHG

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.0889% / 0.04088898
47.0 EEF
29.0 STEPPE
13.0 WHG
11.0 CANARY-GUANCHE

Teniendo en cuenta que comparada con el resto de los componentes de nuestros resultados, la muestra guanche se lleva varios miles de años, hasta con la más reciente, tampoco es para tanto.;)
10-27-2020, 12:37 AM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

Creo que es la calculadora definitiva. Como la ves? Igual pongo de moda esta referencia tan buena:
CANARY-GUANCHE,0.0409760,0.1355730,0.0220615,-0.0250325,0.0364685,-0.0157575,-0.0176260,0.0065770,0.0378370,0.0340780,0.0015425, 0.0011240,0.0002975,-0.0184415,0.0168970,0.0022540,0.0101700,-0.0206490,-0.0235055,0.0078785,-0.0077985,-0.0179300,0.0139885,0.0033135,0.00281

A mí la que más me gusta es la de Moroccan_Jew, esa nos saca todo de golpe.:thumb001:

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Distance to: CANARY-GUANCHE
0.05901006 Spanish_Canarias
0.08355147 Moroccan_Jew
0.08480982 Portuguese
0.08511781 Spanish_Extremadura
0.08671753 Maltese
0.08978154 Spanish_Galicia
0.08990335 Spanish_Andalucia
0.09037490 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.09069075 Spanish_Murcia
0.09209978 Sicilian_West
0.09506514 Libyan_Jew
0.09587198 Spanish_Alacant
0.09635259 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09674914 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09684053 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09759261 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09760548 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09764003 Spanish_Eivissa
0.09799873 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09807066 Tunisian_Jew
0.09815534 Spanish_Asturias
0.09836980 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.09897016 Moroccan_North
0.09968769 Spanish_Baleares
0.09968848 Spanish_Cataluna
10-27-2020, 12:40 AM
gixajo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/at...7&d=1603754082

Pensaba que el H1 era neolítico.
10-27-2020, 12:41 AM
gixajo

Me voy a sobar, que es tardísimo.
10-27-2020, 05:05 PM
gixajo

Las referencias British&Irish.

Quote:

Distance to: British&Irish:1
0.01649553 Shetlandic
0.01734091 Scottish
0.01884746 Orcadian
0.01926805 Irish
0.01946619 English_Cornwall
0.01977733 Welsh
0.01983511 English
0.02010973 Dutch
0.02203186 Danish
0.02267653 Norwegian

Distance to: British&Irish:2
0.01532126 Orcadian
0.01538737 Scottish
0.01665052 Irish
0.01865450 English
0.01913407 Icelandic
0.01935838 English_Cornwall
0.02062207 Welsh
0.02071052 Danish
0.02125100 Shetlandic
0.02270719 Dutch

Distance to: British&Irish:3
0.01448756 Welsh
0.01627911 English
0.01643386 Dutch
0.01757696 French_Brittany
0.01786837 Scottish
0.01891532 English_Cornwall
0.01908421 Orcadian
0.01915667 Irish
0.02111415 Shetlandic
0.02137983 German

Distance to: British&Irish:4
0.01784014 Orcadian
0.01929264 Scottish
0.02007482 Icelandic
0.02107071 Irish
0.02193946 English
0.02254866 English_Cornwall
0.02440897 Welsh
0.02460942 Danish
0.02604901 Dutch
0.02662345 Shetlandic

Distance to: British&Irish:5
0.01393308 Irish
0.01527390 Scottish
0.01869093 Orcadian
0.01894831 English
0.01946809 Welsh
0.01974494 English_Cornwall
0.02007022 Norwegian
0.02018152 Dutch
0.02036588 Shetlandic
0.02068210 Icelandic

Distance to: British&Irish:6
0.01586008 Icelandic
0.02057594 Orcadian
0.02065086 Swedish
0.02074927 Norwegian
0.02089584 Scottish
0.02147468 Irish
0.02378933 Dutch
0.02381276 Welsh
0.02391562 English
0.02424130 Danish

Distance to: British&Irish:7
0.01513075 Orcadian
0.01660825 Scottish
0.01767637 English
0.01927338 Irish
0.01954665 English_Cornwall
0.02082079 Icelandic
0.02083612 Welsh
0.02246549 Dutch
0.02410695 Danish
0.02493043 Shetlandic

Distance to: British&Irish:8
0.01450633 French_Brittany
0.01511070 Welsh
0.01589178 German
0.01656965 English
0.01727051 English_Cornwall
0.01997174 Belgian
0.02018988 Dutch
0.02019347 Scottish
0.02135498 Orcadian
0.02159158 French_Nord

Distance to: British&Irish:9
0.01607249 Orcadian
0.01828213 Scottish
0.01997846 English
0.02031908 English_Cornwall
0.02131682 Welsh
0.02151194 Irish
0.02369138 Dutch
0.02392184 Danish
0.02395407 Icelandic
0.02629961 French_Brittany

Distance to: British&Irish:10
0.01988040 English_Cornwall
0.02031376 English
0.02080267 Orcadian
0.02123513 Scottish
0.02181798 Welsh
0.02376486 Danish
0.02390206 Irish
0.02569006 Icelandic
0.02575190 Dutch
0.02694282 French_Brittany

Distance to: British&Irish:11
0.01762824 English_Cornwall
0.01862445 Welsh
0.01932473 English
0.01964119 French_Brittany
0.02130464 Orcadian
0.02142544 Scottish
0.02309433 Irish
0.02539025 Dutch
0.02707827 Belgian
0.02785173 Shetlandic

Distance to: British&Irish:12
0.01971560 Orcadian
0.02040205 English_Cornwall
0.02051852 Scottish
0.02102959 English
0.02191911 Danish
0.02309709 Welsh
0.02377345 Irish
0.02445634 Dutch
0.02505363 Icelandic
0.02542562 Shetlandic

Distance to: British&Irish:13
0.01298985 Orcadian
0.01428642 Scottish
0.01699341 English
0.01717426 Irish
0.01737271 Dutch
0.01755972 Welsh
0.01956138 English_Cornwall
0.01971703 Danish
0.01992487 Icelandic
0.01998305 Shetlandic

Distance to: British&Irish:14
0.00801601 Welsh
0.00968539 English_Cornwall
0.00968608 English
0.01098583 Irish
0.01128655 Scottish
0.01340719 French_Brittany
0.01394839 Orcadian
0.01619182 Dutch
0.01779571 Shetlandic
0.02040635 Icelandic

¿Qué os parecen?

Igual la 6 podría dar problemas si incluyo alguna referencia escandinava, ¿No?
10-27-2020, 08:08 PM
Gota_type_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

Ai está. O campeão da nordicidade. Em espanha já sabemos que não há gente "woggish".

No has entendido realmente lo q he dicho. He dicho q el 60%-70% de españoles y portugueses somos iguales. Pero que viendo esos % de northafrican y subsahariano en esos ejemplos de portugueses (que no sé de dónde han salido ni si son de poblaciones normales y corrientes o han sido elegidos específicamente para el estudio por ser muy woggish) entonces sí, hay una diferencia en q hay portugueses (no sé el % exacto, pero ni muy bajo ni muy alto) q sí son más woggish que el % de woggish q tenemos en España. Y se corrobora también con esos análisis genéticos.

No he visto ningún español que dé 4.7% de subsahariano. Y de mis matches portugueses en 23andme todos tienen NorthAfrican por encima del 1%, cosa q es mucho más raro en mis matches españoles (que van desde el 0.00% al 0.4% o así). Así que sí, ALGUNOS portugueses son más morenos-oscuros q lo que se encuentra en España, y eso que yo he dicho varias veces que yo considero q en España tenemos un 6-8% de non-White natives, lo acabo de poner en otro hilo:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...90#post6958590

Repito, la mayoría de portugueses y españoles son indistinguibles, pero el porcentaje de gente rara y no blanca es mayor en Portugal q en España. Y con esto no quiero decir nada más, ni que sea bueno o malo. Me la suda.

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