South Slavic & neighbours gedmatch results - vol.2

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Originally Posted by Leto

Cool results, man. If you subtract 7-8% from the Caucasus and add it to the North European you'll get a Polish person (more or less) :)

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On mixed mode of K13 posted by vbn on Serbian autosomal thread he got:

1 72.2% South_Polish + 27.8% Greek_Thessaly @1.72
2 61.5% South_Polish + 38.5% Bulgarian @1.74
3 55.9% Ukrainian + 44.1% Romanian @1.75
4 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% Italian_Abruzzo @1.89
5 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% Estonian @1.91
6 57.6% South_Polish + 42.4% Romanian @1.94
7 79.6% South_Polish + 20.4% South_Italian @1.94
8 53.3% Serbian + 46.7% Ukrainian @2.02
9 77.4% South_Polish + 22.6% Central_Greek @2.02
10 62% Romanian + 38% Estonian @2.02
etc.

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Originally Posted by Varda

On mixed mode of K13 posted by vbn on Serbian autosomal thread he got:

1 72.2% South_Polish + 27.8% Greek_Thessaly @1.72
2 61.5% South_Polish + 38.5% Bulgarian @1.74
3 55.9% Ukrainian + 44.1% Romanian @1.75
4 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% Italian_Abruzzo @1.89
5 58.1% Bulgarian + 41.9% Estonian @1.91
6 57.6% South_Polish + 42.4% Romanian @1.94
7 79.6% South_Polish + 20.4% South_Italian @1.94
8 53.3% Serbian + 46.7% Ukrainian @2.02
9 77.4% South_Polish + 22.6% Central_Greek @2.02
10 62% Romanian + 38% Estonian @2.02
etc.

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@Leto

Ukrainian is the best approximation for old Slavs?

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Originally Posted by Varda

@Leto

Ukrainian is the best approximation for old Slavs?

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Judging by the recent Viking-era average made by Vbnet it looks so. Northern Ukrainian (Volhynia).

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

there was this result, but it isn't confirmed
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6467884

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He born in Djakovica and lived in Prishtina, Belgrade. Then migrated to the USA. He didn't answer the question "how do you identify?"

I would guess him as a Bosniak if I had not seen the DNA result, but you probably know better than me about the region.


Being Albanian is also would not be surprising as he had lived in Serbia, we don't know which passport he used before migrating to the USA.

Serbian from Niš
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.59
2 North_Atlantic 23.16
3 East_Med 14.31
4 West_Asian 14.05
5 West_Med 13.96
6 Red_Sea 1.94
7 South_Asian 0.97
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 Sub-Saharan 0.36
10 East_Asian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.03
2 Serbian 6.47
3 Romanian 7.46
4 Bulgarian 8.78
5 Croatian 9.09
6 Hungarian 10.69
7 Austrian 14.53
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.63
9 South_Polish 15.63
10 East_German 15.7
11 Ukrainian 16.06
12 Greek_Thessaly 17.48
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.28
14 Southwest_Russian 18.5
15 Polish 19.03
16 West_German 20.44
17 Russian_Smolensk 20.57
18 Tatar 20.88
19 Estonian_Polish 21.39
20 Belorussian 21.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Croatian + 17.5% Armenian @ 1.39
2 82.3% Croatian + 17.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.64
3 82.6% Croatian + 17.4% Assyrian @ 2.06
4 82.1% Croatian + 17.9% Kurdish @ 2.1
5 79.3% Croatian + 20.7% Turkish @ 2.3
6 80.5% Croatian + 19.5% Azeri @ 2.35
7 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Armenian @ 2.46
8 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
9 83.4% Croatian + 16.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.57
10 82.4% Croatian + 17.6% Iranian @ 2.57
11 73.2% South_Polish + 26.8% Armenian @ 2.63
12 88.5% Moldavian + 11.5% Assyrian @ 2.64
13 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Kurdish @ 2.65
14 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.66
15 56.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 43.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.74
16 89.1% Moldavian + 10.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.8
17 89% Moldavian + 11% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.82
18 83.5% Croatian + 16.5% Georgian @ 2.84
19 84.3% Croatian + 15.7% Abhkasian @ 2.85
20 88.5% Moldavian + 11.5% Iranian @ 2.9

Albanian from Prishtina
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.42
2 North_Atlantic 21.76
3 West_Med 19.89
4 Baltic 17.4
5 West_Asian 10.21
6 Amerindian 1.51
7 Red_Sea 1
8 Oceanian 0.88
9 South_Asian 0.69
10 East_Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.27
2 Bulgarian 8.48
3 Tuscan 9.72
4 Italian_Abruzzo 9.75
5 Central_Greek 10.08
6 West_Sicilian 10.3
7 Romanian 10.34
8 East_Sicilian 11.23
9 Ashkenazi 12.25
10 North_Italian 13.2
11 South_Italian 13.62
12 Serbian 14.27
13 Italian_Jewish 18.49
14 Algerian_Jewish 18.91
15 Sephardic_Jewish 19.13
16 Moldavian 20.48
17 Portuguese 20.85
18 Spanish_Extremadura 21.42
19 Hungarian 22.06
20 Spanish_Galicia 22.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Southeast_English @ 3.66
2 70.3% Bulgarian + 29.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.66
3 65.2% Romanian + 34.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.7
4 92.1% Greek_Thessaly + 7.9% West_German @ 3.7
5 94.1% Greek_Thessaly + 5.9% Danish @ 3.71
6 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Norwegian @ 3.73
7 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% Orcadian @ 3.73
8 94.2% Greek_Thessaly + 5.8% North_Dutch @ 3.73
9 55.8% Bulgarian + 44.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.74
10 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Swedish @ 3.75
11 94% Greek_Thessaly + 6% North_German @ 3.76
12 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% West_Scottish @ 3.77
13 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% South_Dutch @ 3.77
14 94.4% Greek_Thessaly + 5.6% Southwest_English @ 3.77
15 94.7% Greek_Thessaly + 5.3% North_Swedish @ 3.78
16 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Irish @ 3.78
17 91.9% Greek_Thessaly + 8.1% Hungarian @ 3.82
18 92.3% Greek_Thessaly + 7.7% French @ 3.82
19 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Austrian @ 3.82
20 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% East_German @

Croat from Zadar, Dalmatia. Thank you Lucas! :)

Code:

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Croat_Zadar,29.89,31.61,18.81,8.21,9.33,0,0,1.11,1.03,0,0,0,0

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Distance to: Croat_Zadar

5.15828460 Hungarian_Budapest
5.17778910 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
5.25966729 Hungarian
5.29328820 Hungarian_Alfold
5.29949998 Croat_Croatia
5.42231500 Croat_Croatia_Central
5.42778039 Croat
5.59102853 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.61103377 Hungarian_Transdanubia
5.82182961 Slovenian
6.14239367 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
6.32959714 Bosniak_Krajina
6.45102317 Hungarian_Csango
6.53169197 Moldova_North
6.54812950 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
6.64111436 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
6.67025487 Hungarian_Szekely
6.76097626 Croat_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.77979351 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
6.78030235 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper
6.93069261 Croat_B&H
6.93323878 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
7.44108863 Croat_Croatia_Istria_&_Kvarner
7.64244071 Bosniak
7.79811516 Hungarian_Northern

Target: Croat_Zadar
Distance: 2.6242% / 2.62419483 | ADC: 0.25x

47.0 Bosniak_Krajina
43.2 Croat_Croatia_Central
8.4 French_Basque
1.4 Ukrainian

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

why do you think Vojvodina Serbs should be the most Slavic genetically? Historically, Vojvodina Serbs are a just a mix of Serbs which settled here from all other regions further south. They should represent the average Serb genetically. There are 20 other ethnic groups in Vojvodina, but afaik Serbs mixed the most with Banat Romanians, which would just pull them south. All the other ethnic groups in Vojvodina are catholic and protestant which was a big barrier for intermarrying.

the sample of 43 Lika Serbs i have ranges from 24% - 34% Baltic, average 29. i expect Vojvodina Serbs to have a similar range to this.

based on some individual Serb results from Banija and Mačva, i expect on a larger sample the individual range here will probably be 26-36, and the average 30. These should be the most north shifted Serb regions, not Vojvodina.

on My Montenegrin sample, mostly from Podgorica, which is the southern part of the country, the range is 21-29, average 25.
based on some individual results i think the Serbs from regions like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prizren and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vranje will also have such a range and average.

all other Serbs should be in between.

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Two Serbs from Banija.

Dragović from Sjeverovac (Sunja) https://actacroatica.com/en/location/sjeverovac/

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/at...5&d=1602584345


Ljubica Beronja from Sisak. She has a match with Dragana Žakula (Žakula is Krajina Serb surname, mostly from Lika)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/at...6&d=1602584441

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