German GEDmatch results

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

What the hell is "today's Niederlausitz" ??? So there is "today's" and "yesterday's" ???

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You maybe should have checked that before lecturing a German about German language. What is considered Niederlausitz has changed by time and however since abt. 1796 Beeskow is not anymore in what is considered Niederlausitz or Lausitz.

I just add some arbitrary German maps showing what in German is meant by the term Niederlausitz. I've marked Beeskow in red, mostly with a red ring.

https://i.imgur.com/oBSGIfS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/C93uZwn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZljCDKc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/kkUCyS3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mWOgIUx.jpg

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

If you read about Beeskow history, you will see it was a 100% ethnic Sorbian area until the 1700s, when it was Germanized through administrative measures (banning of Sorbian languages in churches and schools, replacing it by German language).

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= they are not Sorbs for centuries. Similar like you are product of Polonized non Slavs among other things.

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Originally Posted by rothaer

You maybe should have checked that before lecturing a German about a German region

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It is a West Slavic region and I'm a West Slav too.

I checked in Google Graphics "Lusatia maps" and almost all of them show Beeskow as part of Lusatia.

For example: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/64/59/b6/6...7295ad5e91.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/64/59/b6/6...7295ad5e91.jpg

Especially maps by Domowina-Verlag (which is a Sorbian publisher) show Beeskow as part of Lusatia.

German regions are e.g. Brandenburg and Saxony, but Lusatia is not.

If you were kind enough to the Sorbs to create a separate Bundesland called Lausitz, then maybe I would see it differently.

But Lausitz is not a separate Bundesland, so it is not a German region.

Actually the main reason why it is not a Bundesland, is because you see it as a colony, not one of historic German peoples.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

Nope. Both German and English are defined by language, but Irish and Sorbian are not defined by language. :)

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Yeah, by such a sentence you must smile yourself, right?

That this sentence is self contradictory in resepect to Ireland, that should be ethnically 90% English if the first part of your content would be correct, you likely see. Let alone Scotland and Wales.

This is more high level trolling than a serious statement.

There was also a region called Obodritia, and it does not exist today (at least not as a German region).

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Originally Posted by rothaer

That this sentence is self contradictory in resepect to Ireland, that should be ethnically 90% English if the first part of your content would be correct, you likely see.

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Only if the English definition tramples and nulifies the Irish definition, which is what you automatically assume (Goliath always tramples David, in your mind).

What was the purpose of English Anglicization policies in Ireland, if not to turn the Irish into the English?

They imposed English language on the native Irish, hoping that it was going to turn them into the English.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

It is a West Slavic region and I'm a West Slav too.

I checked in Google Graphics "Lusatia maps" and almost all of them show Beeskow as part of Lusatia.

For example: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/64/59/b6/6...7295ad5e91.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/64/59/b6/6...7295ad5e91.jpg

Especially maps by Domowina-Verlag (which is a Sorbian publisher) show Beeskow as part of Lusatia.

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Yes, but we were talking about what is meant by the German term Niederlausitz, which is what you suggested for labelling a sample from Beeskow.

That there are Dmowski-like maps printed in Prague 1945 expressing some anti-German fantasies is known. There are also maps showing Berlin being in Poland.

The today German term Niederlausitz does not comprise Beeskow. Since more than 200 years. So someone today reading a sample being from Niederlausitz would be misled.

Sorb in G25 is useful mainly for German users so that they can model themselves as e.g. Dutch + Sorb instead of Dutch + Polish.

(if they want to check their proportion of Germanic and West Slavic)

Check the PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/A1EfJak.png

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Originally Posted by rothaer

does not comprise Beeskow. Since more than 200 years

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I'm not interested in modelling my genetic ancestry from 150 years ago. Who needs that? Traditional genealogy can answer that.

I am interested in modelling my genetic ancestry from 500 years ago, 750 years ago, 1000 years ago, 2000 years ago, and so on.

Even if Beeskow was excluded from Niederlausitz 200 years ago, the people living there are "living fossils", still the same as their ancestors 200+ years ago. This person is like a "Trilobite", a living fossil who has the same genetics as Sorbs living there 500+ years ago. Or extremely similar at least.

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Originally Posted by Tomenable

And you guys were looking for a Red Army ancestor to explain her DNA results... :picard1:

Basically the glasses were all the time on his nose, but he couldn't find his glasses.

Maybe he properly did his research on the history of Niederlausitz region later on.

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You are funny. Did you forget that is was you that wrote on 21st of November 2018 9:32 :

"I hope you will be able to rule-out Non-Parental Events."

May people make up their own mind about the character of your presentations.