Post your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.36
2 Atlantic 21.36
3 West_Med 12.5
4 Baltic 11.43
5 East_Med 9.44
6 Eastern_Euro 8.11
7 West_Asian 3.44
8 Oceanian 1.14
9 Siberian 0.6
10 South_Asian 0.33
11 Red_Sea 0.22
12 Northeast_African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 7.44
2 German 7.82
3 Dutch 9.85
4 Southwest_English 9.99
5 Southeast_English 10.7
6 Danish 11.81
7 Hungarian 11.94
8 Norwegian 12.32
9 Irish 12.53
10 Orcadian 12.54
11 Swedish 12.69
12 Austrian 12.84
13 West_Scottish 12.89
14 Spanish_Galicia 13.49
15 Serbian 13.54
16 North_Swedish 13.92
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.3
18 Portuguese 14.62
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.79
20 Spanish_Extremadura 16.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Norwegian + 36.5% Tuscan @ 3.18
2 57.9% Swedish + 42.1% North_Italian @ 3.31
3 62.8% Swedish + 37.2% Tuscan @ 3.49
4 58.7% Norwegian + 41.3% North_Italian @ 3.51
5 67.4% Orcadian + 32.6% Greek @ 3.99
6 69.7% Dutch + 30.3% Tuscan @ 4.25
7 68% Norwegian + 32% Greek @ 4.32
8 73.5% Dutch + 26.5% Greek @ 4.36
9 55.7% North_Swedish + 44.3% North_Italian @ 4.36
10 82.7% Dutch + 17.3% Cyprian @ 4.51
11 76% Dutch + 24% Ashkenazi @ 4.57
12 75.2% Norwegian + 24.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.59
13 79.9% Dutch + 20.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.63
14 63.7% Orcadian + 36.3% Tuscan @ 4.68
15 65.7% Dutch + 34.3% North_Italian @ 4.76
16 84.6% Dutch + 15.4% Samaritan @ 4.79
17 62.1% Orcadian + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 4.92
18 85.1% Dutch + 14.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.95
19 61% North_Swedish + 39% Tuscan @ 4.96
20 70.5% Orcadian + 29.5% Ashkenazi @ 5

My mothers results:

1 East_Med 29.81
2 West_Med 15.57
3 West_Asian 12.16
4 North_Sea 11.78
5 Atlantic 10.27
6 Baltic 6.47
7 Red_Sea 5.78
8 Eastern_Euro 4.04
9 Northeast_African 1.23
10 Southeast_Asian 0.82
11 Sub-Saharan 0.74
12 South_Asian 0.73
13 Siberian 0.35
14 Oceanian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.18
2 Sephardic_Jewish 9.3
3 Greek 9.77
4 Tuscan 12.48
5 Cyprian 14.56
6 Bulgarian 16.33
7 Lebanese_Muslim 17.28
8 Syrian 17.75
9 Romanian 18.12
10 North_Italian 18.65
11 Turkish 18.96
12 Jordanian 19.94
13 Samaritan 20.1
14 Serbian 20.96
15 Palestinian 20.98
16 Lebanese_Christian 21.56
17 Lebanese_Druze 22.15
18 Bedouin 22.28
19 Assyrian 22.83
20 Algerian 23.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.5% Cyprian + 26.5% Norwegian @ 3.62
2 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% Swedish @ 3.69
3 72.3% Cyprian + 27.7% Dutch @ 3.77
4 92.7% Ashkenazi + 7.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.81
5 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% North_Swedish @ 3.85
6 91% Ashkenazi + 9% Cyprian @ 3.95
7 94.4% Ashkenazi + 5.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.99
8 88.1% Ashkenazi + 11.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.03
9 94.7% Ashkenazi + 5.3% Samaritan @ 4.04
10 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% Orcadian @ 4.06
11 70.4% Cyprian + 29.6% German @ 4.08
12 96.7% Ashkenazi + 3.3% Palestinian @ 4.13
13 96.4% Ashkenazi + 3.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.14
14 98% Ashkenazi + 2% Assyrian @ 4.16
15 98.7% Ashkenazi + 1.3% Sardinian @ 4.16
16 98.8% Ashkenazi + 1.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.16
17 97.9% Ashkenazi + 2.1% Jordanian @ 4.16
18 96.9% Ashkenazi + 3.1% Tuscan @ 4.17
19 99.3% Ashkenazi + 0.7% Armenian @ 4.18
20 99.1% Ashkenazi + 0.9% Syrian @ 4.18

One thing i've noticed looking at the new spreadsheet, and my father's side, is that my father, myself, my grandfather all seem to be a couple of percent higher on Eastern Mediterranean than average, and my Grandmother is the source of the 'Red Sea' middle eastern component but has practically no 'East Med'. Although our West Med does seem comparatively lower, so overall the Mediterranean amount is about normal. Hopefully GEDmatch will be up again soon, interesting to see what the new Oracle says with the new reference populations for K13 and K15.

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Originally Posted by Jackson

One thing i've noticed looking at the new spreadsheet, and my father's side, is that my father, myself, my grandfather all seem to be a couple of percent higher on Eastern Mediterranean than average, and my Grandmother is the source of the 'Red Sea' middle eastern component but has practically no 'East Med'. Although our West Med does seem comparatively lower, so overall the Mediterranean amount is about normal. Hopefully GEDmatch will be up again soon, interesting to see what the new Oracle says with the new reference populations for K13 and K15.

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What did you get before? Would not be surprised to see North Dutch in there for the English. Outside of the Isles. That area is probably closest to what I'd think of the English people.

North_Dutch
50.45 N Atlantic
26.44 Baltic
11.06 W med
5.9 W Asian
3.16 E Med


Southeast_English
50.52 N Atlantic
23.27 Baltic
13.98 W Med
4.46 W Asian
5.09 E Med
1.08 S Asian

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Originally Posted by Graham

What did you get before? Would not be surprised to see North Dutch in there for the English. Outside of the Isles. That area is probably closest to what I'd think of the English people.

North_Dutch
50.45 N Atlantic
26.44 Baltic
11.06 W med
5.9 W Asian
3.16 E Med


Southeast_English
50.52 N Atlantic
23.27 Baltic
13.98 W Med
4.46 W Asian
5.09 E Med
1.08 S Asian

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I usually get Dutch or German, then SE English because i'm less NW European than the majority of British Islanders. Although looking at these regional ones, it's more useful. I think my Grandmother will remain very close to SW English, as she has more West Med and low Baltic. My Grandfather and Father might be quite similar to north Dutch, but they have more east Med. My mum probably closest to South Dutch, and my aunt probably closest to SE English. But we will have to wait for GEDmatch to be up again in order to find out. With a brief look over the averages north Dutch should be the closest match for both of them, or a couple down the list maybe. But it will probably say something like 95% north Dutch +5% Syrian due to the higher East Med, or 70% Irish 30% Bulgarian or something along those lines. Will be interesting to see what Quoteablepatella on ABF gets as well, as his family is primarily from the NW if i remember correctly, and quite northern genetically.

I kinda think some central and northern English samples would fill in the gap between the southern English and the northern British (Scots, Irish, Orcadians) and Danes/north Dutch/north Germans. You can clearly see the French-like influence in southern England, western Germany and the southern Netherlands, fits with the higher U152 in those areas by comparison to the more northern areas in NW Europe.

To be honest in terms of ancient admixture, it makes quite a lot of sense. I would expect the Romano-Britons to be between the northern British and the French, as they had some Gallic influence and were also part of the Roman Empire. And also given that there's an argument for saying some amount of the Anglo-Saxons came from more southern areas, plus Frankish inflluence, our position between the northern and southern Dutch but shifted to the west makes perfect logical sense. It also makes geographic sense. Although it'd be nice to see some Bretons, Normans and Belgians in the plot too, i imagine they'd fill the gap between southern Britain and the French sample.

La Brana having a fairly even helping of all four northern European components in K15 is especially interesting. Also the fact that in genaeological terms he shares the msot ancestry with south-western Europeans and Basques, but in autosomal genetics he is closest to Finns and Swedes. That kind of suggests that these components spanned quite vast areas, as they do today i suppose, but i guess even further - especially as Baltic is one of the primary components in Ma'lta as well.

Wow that is quite interesting that La Brana-1 scores pretty high in the Baltic, North_Sea, Atlantic and even East_Euro components.

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Originally Posted by Jackson

I usually get Dutch or German, then SE English because i'm less NW European than the majority of British Islanders. Although looking at these regional ones, it's more useful. I think my Grandmother will remain very close to SW English, as she has more West Med and low Baltic. My Grandfather and Father might be quite similar to north Dutch, but they have more east Med. My mum probably closest to South Dutch, and my aunt probably closest to SE English. But we will have to wait for GEDmatch to be up again in order to find out. With a brief look over the averages north Dutch should be the closest match for both of them, or a couple down the list maybe. But it will probably say something like 95% north Dutch +5% Syrian due to the higher East Med, or 70% Irish 30% Bulgarian or something along those lines. Will be interesting to see what Quoteablepatella on ABF gets as well, as his family is primarily from the NW if i remember correctly, and quite northern genetically.

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Went through the K13 SE England numbers to check who's closest in points. :) with the NW..

0.00 Southeast_English
8.46 Orcadian
8.52 Southwest_English
10.69 West_Scottish
11.19 Irish
11.28 North_Dutch
12.38 Danish
16.03 South_Dutch
16.38 North_German
16.72 West_German
17.35 Norwegian
21.65 Swedish
28.76 French

Damn GEDmatch still seems to be down.

It's on again now, the problems seem to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by Shuffle

It's on again now, the problems seem to be fixed.

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Though the new population averages for K13 and K15 aren't in yet, so oracles are unchanged.