Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.
Voy avisando.
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Ok, ya tengo a mano los SNP Y de gixa, a ver que nos sale, si es un R1b vulgar como la mayoria, un moro E1b o un visigodo R1a.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Primero comenzare testeandolo con R1b, luego con E1b, para descartar.
Voy avisando.
Perdona, si fuera E1b no sería moro, sería Iberomaurisiense!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
;)
También podrías testearlo con haplogrupos chinos, para ir descartando. Su avatar sugiere ascendencia algo asiática.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
Pues... Lamento decirte que el padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, de tu padre, no era uno de esos iberomaurisienses guays.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Negativo en E, E1, R1b.
Positivo en R, R1, R1a, R1a1, R1a1a, R1a1a1
Tu haplogrupo, hasta el subclado que pude o he podido ver, es R1a-M417, al parecer no has sido testeado en ninguna de sus 2 posibles variantes, que es una la tiene samario (el que es mas comun en Asia) y el que es comun en Europa Oriental y Escandinavia.
Pero 100000% seguro, que eres R1a-M417, que por cierto, deberias ponerlo asi mismo como te lo estoy diciendo en tu Y-DNA.
Te mandare el documento, es practicamente lo mismo que me mandaste pero esta marcado los cromosomas positivos y negativos.
Pues muchas gracias, no hace falta que me envíes nada, me fío de tí.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
De nada tio, igual te lo mande, por si te mata la curiosidad, o sea no hay fallo alguno.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Como llego ese R1a hasta Andalucia, que curioso no?
El día que me hice esa foto, había pasado una mala noche...Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Podria ser... Es una teoria interesante. En internet lo que se habla es que los godos eran I1 y R1b, con los subclados respectivos claro, supongo que el DF19 de AlfonsoVIII es visigodo o suevo, pero de R1a ni puta idea, no dice nada, por lo tanto podria ser tambien como dices, eslavo como tal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noff
R1a = Corded Ware relatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Noff
R1b = Bell Beaker related
Asi lo diferencio yo, a pesar que ambos tienen el mismo origen en la estepa.
Con algo tan poco específico como como M 417, no se puede saber gran cosa.Pero sí es cierto que suelo dar más alto y con más frecuencia resultados de zonas europeas relacionados con r1a que asiáticos. Pero vete a saber...
Yo creo que es más reciente que lo que comentáis, de alrededor del finales del siglo XVIII. Al menos es lo primero que pensé, lo comenté mil veces, las Nuevas Poblaciones de Andalucía y Sierra Morena, los colonos centroeuropeos de Pablo de Olavide y Johann K***** Thürriegel.Había polacos, alemanes de Sajonia, Sorbios, Checos y Húngaros, aparte de Holandeses o Belgas, cualquiera de ellos podría haber traído el r1a.
Otra posible explicación sería que tuviera antepasados pasiegos.
O un soldado polaco de las tropas de Napoleón, cerca de donde es mi familia paterna tuvo lugar la batalla de Bailén.
Vete a saber, igual no es ninguna de estas posibilidades.
Yo ya estoy bastante aburrido con esto del confinamiento, seria divertido empezar una guerra.
Nueva calculadorita, pero no pienso hacer thread de ella, es algo sencilla.
Target: Alejandro_scaledCode:Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese,0.118376,0.1438667,0.0037713,-0.0325153,0.0159003,-0.010412,0.001645,-0.000923,-0.000409,0.018102,0.000108,0.0039467,-0.0058967,0.0037157,-0.016377,0.0023863,0.0134297,0.0003377,0.009176,-0.0007083,-0.0092753,0.003998,0.0013967,-0.0001203,-0.0033927
Baltic:Estonian,0.1329454,0.1141455,0.087756,0.0833017,0.0427771,0.0297575,0.0113745,0.0144457,0.0004091,-0.028447,6.5e-05,-0.0123489,0.0194597,0.0213591,-0.0066639,0.0017104,0.0002216,-0.0024832,0.0013451,0.0022137,0.001385,-0.0018672,0.0042644,0.0007471,0.0030535
Scandinavian:Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0.0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ,-0.1025221,0.131656,-0.0023166,-0.0759511,0.0310606,-0.0356582,-0.0335058,0.012016,0.0766524,0.0315659,0.0088154,-0.0092596,0.0247308,-0.0204174,0.0203483,-0.0157212,0.0001119,-0.0288305,-0.0534217,0.0119165,-0.0208205,-0.0511129,0.0307414,-0.0051899,0.0074671
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,0.1050967,0.1499597,0.033061,-0.0011843,0.0409303,-0.0027887,-0.003995,-0.0010003,0.024679,0.031223,-0.0012993,0.0050453,-0.0106047,-0.012248,0.007555,0.0026077,-0.002347,-0.003294,-0.0064107,0.000417,0.0021213,-0.00474,-0.0014787,-0.0027713,0.0014373
Yoruban:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0.0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561,0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Gambian:Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028,0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya,-0.5978967,0.063688,0.0171859,0.007106,-1e-07,0.0058569,-0.0145036,0.0188894,0.0045287,-0.0215819,-0.0050573,0.015993,-0.0328754,0.0011991,-0.0304013,0.0267264,-0.0180303,-0.0024431,-0.009948,0.0047167,0.0016934,0.0001946,0.0034157,0.0039763,0.0006671
Oceanian:Australian,-0.0421145,-0.235095,-0.213639,0.234499,0.1384875,-0.3402465,-0.0031725,0.0074995,-0.0082835,0.00082,-0.006171,0.001199,0.0008175,-0.002684,-0.0035285,-0.000133,0.0100395,0.002027,-0.0023885,0.0060655,0.003556,-0.000371,-0.0033895,0.0012655,-0.0045505
Arabian:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
Central_Asian:Tajik,0.0928895,0.013246,-0.0298254,0.0209107,-0.0438208,0.0167213,0.0048738,-0.000642,-0.0280643,-0.0221773,-0.0075193,0.000417,-0.0007433,-0.0081197,0.0114714,0.0104573,-0.0048413,-8.27e-05,0.0011095,-0.0082376,-0.0067489,-0.0024892,0.0013665,0.0017708,0.003405
Eastern_European:Russian_Orel,0.1312217,0.1186719,0.0717069,0.0624774,0.0331489,0.0222316,0.0085273,0.0119994,-0.0049086,-0.0253049,-0.0012991,-0.0071936,0.0147176,0.0233369,-0.0120401,-0.0008146,0.0023841,-0.0019726,0.0030347,0.001483,-0.0045277,-0.0055643,0.0058277,-0.0053536,-0.001112
San:Khomani_San,-0.6220435,0.060424,0.02093,0.030039,-0.0004615,0.000837,0.236773,-0.1823,0.0185095,0.0067425,0.00203,-0.053952,-0.0211845,0.005505,0.018797,-0.0212805,0.029662,0.2623085,-0.0877375,0.001751,-0.0331915,-0.002844,0.0038205,-0.0050005,0.0016765
Levantine:Lebanese_Druze,0.0841153,0.1404478,-0.0496667,-0.070091,-0.0156642,-0.0251838,-0.0024205,-0.0053304,-0.0023112,0.0075992,0.0051477,-0.0030274,0.009083,0.0020232,-0.0068675,0.0061655,-0.0020861,0.0008361,0.0024761,-0.000913,-0.0013225,0.0019414,0.0002465,0.0025182,-0.0005866
Italian:Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0.006694,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0.001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
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Western_European:French_Alsace,0.1273112,0.1403715,0.0503172,0.0224324,0.0384224,0.0089105,0.0029199,0.0048748,0.0068516,0.010679,-0.0031341,0.0045785,-0.0094438,-0.0041699,0.0085606,0.0030662,-0.0048927,0.0024387,0.003243,-0.000716,0.0027639,0.0011562,-0.0013219,0.0071364,-0.0003143
Bantu:Bantu_S.W.,-0.6222873,0.0658643,0.018425,0.0160116,0.0006156,0.0075699,0.0014437,0.0089336,-0.0274354,0.0172863,0.0028534,-0.0046459,-0.0030369,0.001966,-0.0051573,0.004887,-0.0033901,0.0217903,-0.0106846,0.0037876,-0.0011764,0.0004591,0.0014964,0.0002411,-0.0005471
Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
Central_European:Hungarian,0.1270753,0.1296252,0.0553559,0.0364298,0.0363804,0.0119326,0.0066138,0.0075326,0.0020597,-0.0046731,-0.0014731,-0.0027191,0.0038544,0.0087488,-0.0043722,0.0001231,-8.4e-05,-0.0003891,0.0026486,-0.0013221,-0.003378,0.0013865,0.0055286,0.0026939,0.0004789
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South_American:Bolivian_Pando,0.0534967,-0.2626833,0.1107477,0.0837647,-0.0965307,-0.013294,-0.2671287,-0.3237557,-0.011658,-0.007411,-0.0049797,-0.0005493,-0.000545,0.0232123,-0.007465,-0.0001327,-4.37e-05,0.0029563,4.2e-05,0.0016673,-0.001414,0.0042453,-0.0006983,0.001245,-0.001357
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South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh,0.064737,-0.0336392,-0.1301538,0.1126068,-0.0731289,0.0650512,0.0003525,0.0089997,0.0287868,0.0123239,-0.0062315,0.0016672,-0.0046456,-0.0012385,0.008805,-0.0048561,-0.0096485,0.0011716,-0.0023569,-0.010974,-0.00078,0.0001081,0.0026806,0.0032082,-0.0081579
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Han:Han_Sichuan,0.0198376,-0.4481384,-0.0072191,-0.0669994,0.0771573,0.0334269,0.0019807,-0.0053403,-0.0132647,0.0003644,-0.0533564,-0.0100197,0.0100026,-0.0074121,-0.0077361,-0.0008144,0.0011921,-0.0007057,-0.003717,-0.0058243,0.0112301,0.0063063,0.0116909,0.0002239,0.0024806
Distance: 2.2716% / 0.02271648
52.4 Iberian
29.2 Southeastern_European
9.6 Scandinavian
6.4 Northwestern_African
2.4 Baltic
Espero que les guste.
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5360% / 0.02536011
66.6 Iberian
24.0 Northwestern_European
8.2 Southeastern_European
0.8 Han
0.4 Northeastern_Asian
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5952% / 0.02595160 | ADC: 0.25x
67.8 Iberian
20.4 Western_European
9.2 Northwestern_European
1.6 Southeastern_European
0.6 Han
0.2 Caucasian
0.2 Northeastern_Asian
En realidad la probabilidad es bastante alta en cuanto te vas alejando de aquí:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noff
Quote:
Europa
Europa Oriental: Es mayoritario en Europa del Este, especialmente entre los eslavos del norte, pues la frecuencia más alta está entre los sorbios (extremo este de Alemania) con un 63.4 % (Behar et al.2003), siendo también predominante en polacos con 56 % (Semino et al.2000), ucranianos 54 % (Semino et al.2000), rusos étnicos 50 %, (Pericic et al.2005, Balanovsky et al.2008) particularmente en Bélgorod 59 %, Tver 58 % y Kursk 52 %.9 También es frecuente en bielorrusos en un 51 %, (Pericic et al.2005, Behar et al.2003) en Hungría con 20 al 60 %, Letonia 41 %, Udmurtia 37 %, Pomor 36 %, Macedonia del Norte 35 %, Lituania 34 %, Croacia 29 %, checo/eslovacos 27 % y menores frecuencias en los Balcanes. En el Cáucaso la mayor frecuencia está en Abjasia con 33 %.
Europa Occidental: Se encuentra en Noruega con 25 %, Islandia 24 %, Suecia 18 %, Dinamarca 17 % y menores frecuencias en Gran Bretaña, Alemania y resto de Europa. La presencia más alta en la península ibérica se encuentra entre los pasiegos, comunidad étnica bastante aislada donde alcanza un 65 %, 47 % R-M173 y 18 % R-SRY10831; esto podría ser explicado como resultado de las oleadas de tribus del norte que invadieron desde tiempos prehistóricos la península ibérica a través de los Pirineos.10
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3969% / 0.02396852
79.2 Iberian
10.6 Western_European
10.2 Northwestern_European
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.6108% / 0.02610811 | ADC: 1x
93.4 Iberian
6.6 Western_European
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4282% / 0.02428168 | ADC: 0.5x
79.6 Iberian
20.4 Western_European
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.4020% / 0.02401996 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Iberian
17.0 Western_European
5.0 Northwestern_European
100% europeo occidental, despues que no te digan nada sobre el Occidente.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Hola Irish :) ahi te saco tu napolitano, y por supuesto, tu raza celtica superor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Acabo de postear mi MENA de MDLP World y era cosa del 13%, así que no se yo...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
Lo que vale es el G25, sobretodo mis modelos, que son los vuestros también.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
En esa yo tengo 12.95, es raro que tengas casi lo mismo que yo.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Carece de referencia norteafricana, por eso obtengo un 3.65 en negro.
Todo depende de como lo lean, cambia mucho en cada calculador de gedmatch, en ningun otro me ha dado tan alto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Yo tengo 8.88 pero luego tengo Caucaus_Parsia 10.91 y Sub_Saharian 1.97 Pct. Depende de la calculadora lo pone en un sitio u otro, estoy seguro de que gixajo tiene bastante menos en esos puntos.
Todo depende de como lo lean, cambia mucho en cada calculador de gedmatch, en ningun otro me ha dado tan alto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
No me he fijado el SSA y el otro, en SSA no suelo dar nada normalmente.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
5.32 Caucaus_Parsia
1.13 SSA
y Paleo_African 0.27
por abrir la boca...
on Monte3 Runner
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"fit": 2.06,
"Iberian": 72.5,
"Italian": 9.17,
"Northwestern_European": 5.83,
"Western_European": 4.17,
"Northeastern_African": 2.5,
"Arabian": 1.67,
"Northwestern_African": 1.67,
"San": 0.83,
"Scandinavian": 0.83,
"Yoruban": 0.83
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"Western_European:French_Alsace: 6.355075",
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"Central_European:Hungarian: 8.658728",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 9.060257",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 10.489314",
"Levantine:Lebanese_Druze: 12.822130",
"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 12.888299",
"Caucasian:Karachay: 14.958009",
"Baltic:Estonian: 14.992451",
"Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen: 17.543313",
"Central_Asian:Tajik: 19.059721",
"Arabian:Saudi: 19.707036",
"Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ: 23.998661",
"South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh: 30.523069",
"Northeastern_Asian:Koryak: 58.466825",
"North_American:Amerindian_North: 60.081155",
"Eastern_Asian:Japanese: 60.849832",
"Han:Han_Sichuan: 61.240684",
"South_American:Bolivian_Pando: 61.713703",
"Oceanian:Australian: 64.330963",
"Central_American:Mayan: 64.865693",
"Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya: 69.620217",
"Gambian:Gambian: 70.397361",
"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 71.806454",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 73.040790",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.095945"
]
Como lo hiciste???Quote:
Originally Posted by PT Tagus
http://185.144.156.77:3000/freeform_nmonte.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
Reference Data: datasheet
Test Data: sus coordenadas
En la opción Contains Header seleciona No Header
Finalmente, hace clic en Run nMontes
https://i.imgur.com/QhZ38bG.png
Gracias hermano!Quote:
Originally Posted by PT Tagus
Code:[
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"Southeastern_European": 29.17,
"Scandinavian": 10,
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"Caucasian": 0,
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"Eastern_Asian": 0,
"Eastern_European": 0,
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"Han": 0,
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"Levantine": 0,
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"Northeastern_Asian": 0,
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"Oceanian": 0,
"San": 0,
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"South_Asian": 0,
"Western_European": 0,
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"Italian:Italian_Lazio: 5.216565",
"Southeastern_European:Greek_Peloponnese: 6.051447",
"Western_European:French_Alsace: 6.100323",
"Central_European:Hungarian: 7.931308",
"Northwestern_European:Scottish: 9.137336",
"Scandinavian:Swedish: 10.252214",
"Eastern_European:Russian_Orel: 12.087201",
"Levantine:Lebanese_Druze: 12.428079",
"Caucasian:Karachay: 13.992557",
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"Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen: 18.259110",
"Central_Asian:Tajik: 18.286192",
"Arabian:Saudi: 19.910016",
"Northwestern_African:Berber_MAR_TIZ: 24.711422",
"South_Asian:Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh: 30.216857",
"Northeastern_Asian:Koryak: 57.963268",
"North_American:Amerindian_North: 60.086846",
"Eastern_Asian:Japanese: 60.595992",
"Han:Han_Sichuan: 60.904086",
"South_American:Bolivian_Pando: 62.015898",
"Oceanian:Australian: 64.449262",
"Central_American:Mayan: 65.074984",
"Eastern_African:Luhya_Kenya: 70.785332",
"Gambian:Gambian: 71.695610",
"Bantu:Bantu_S.W.: 73.062482",
"Yoruban:Yoruba: 74.379763",
"San:Khomani_San: 83.938940"
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Celtibero Italico
Post your distance results between CODE (#). :D
Hay mucho mito con lo de las repoblaciones de Jaén. Parece ser que la mayoría murieron durante el siguiente siglo: por hambrunas y mala aclimatación a la zona. También tu R1a podría venir de los vándalos. Sí, ya sé que la mayoría se iría al norte de Africa, pero seguramente unos cuantos miles de quedarían y se multiplicarían. Aunque por lo que he leído es cierto que los musulmanes de Al-Andalus tuvieron tanto esclavos de Europa del Este (incluso polacos) como más adelante estos mismos europeos del Este convertidos al islam luchando mano a mano con los moros.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Al revés, en los pueblos es donde se mantiene la homogeneidad de los antepasados (la gente se casó durante muchos siglos con la gente del pueblo como mucho con los 3-4 pueblos a menos de 10 kms. En las ciudades se mezclarían ya gentes de lugares diversos (aunque fueran de la misma provincia), y tb dependiendo de las zonas pues tendrían en su momento judíos, moros, fenicios, romanos, gitanos, etc. Es decir, las ciudades son el peor lugar para identificar a la gente de una zona. Es decir, en las ciudades no solo hubo mezcla interna de toda la variabilidad de la provincia sino que es donde se asentaron todas las etnias que acabo de decir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Por ejemplo, hay algo particular en los invasores germánicos (suevos, visigodos) y es que estos hicieron mucha más vida rural. Salvo los visigodos de 2-3 ciudades importantes (Toledo por ejmplo), la inmensa mayoría habitó en zonas muy rurales y se dedicaron a la ganadería y agricultura. Baste con ver que durante siglos vivieron en Tierra de Campos (antiguamente llamada Campos Góticos). Sería bueno que se hicieran análisis de halogrupos a los pueblos de Tierra de Campos, seguro que sale un 20-30% de halogrupos germánicos.
A los guiris y a los que venden España como un país meramente mediterráneo les jodería bastante tener que poner varios círculos en los mapas de Eupedia con un 20-30% de halogrupos I o R1b germánico. Estoy convencido de que es así. Hasta hay un pueblo que fue fundado por visigodos: Wamba. A saber qué porcentaje saldría ahí. No son pueblos que recibieran emigración de otros lugares, aunque ellos sí emigrarían, pero los que estén darían resultados llamativos.
Solo decía que las ciudades están repletas de descendientes de pueblos, España fue hasta los años 50-60 básicamente rural y que es cuando se hizo la transición a la ciudad. Asentamientos visigodos están por todos lados, tampoco creo que haya duda con esto, volviendo como ejemplo a mis parientes hay un asentamiento de estos en el pueblo de mi abuelete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gota_type_
Este foro competiría duro en el certamen sobre "lugares más racistas en la web", si inventan o niegan algo para perjudicar a otras personas/naciones no sorprenderse.
Calculadora sencilla pero efectiva:
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.5671% / 0.03567091
93.6 Blanco
6.4 Moro
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Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1096,0.120652,0.184826,0.008297,-0.101745,0.051702,-0.044344,-0.005405,-0.003692,0.039473,0.0831,0.010718,0.017385,-0.02438,0.006331,-0.043702,-0.0179,0.025946,-0.00076,0.012821,-0.005878,-0.015722,0.00507,-0.005793,0.007832,-0.016406
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Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1098,0.114961,0.179749,-0.004148,-0.092701,0.040931,-0.045459,-0.001175,-0.010846,0.030883,0.068703,0.009743,0.007044,-0.019623,0.000688,-0.044381,-0.001326,0.032987,0.003294,0.006788,-0.001501,-0.01148,0.007914,0.007025,-0.002771,-0.00958
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1099,0.111547,0.19092,0.001508,-0.0969,0.055395,-0.04518,0.003525,-0.010615,0.037223,0.077997,0.006171,0.01124,-0.020515,0.00289,-0.039902,-0.016309,0.021644,0.00266,0.013324,-0.007504,-0.003868,0.002844,0.002588,-0.003012,-0.006347
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1100,0.112685,0.17264,-0.001131,-0.084949,0.049855,-0.054384,-0.00705,-0.002308,0.042132,0.088749,-0.003573,0.008692,-0.02557,-0.006881,-0.040173,-0.00769,0.031553,-0.00266,0.007793,-0.01063,-0.023708,-0.00136,0.003574,-0.003253,-0.001557
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1101,0.114961,0.179749,0.006411,-0.100776,0.054779,-0.043786,-0.00094,-0.000462,0.042541,0.078544,0.005684,0.008692,-0.023042,0.007432,-0.034744,-0.010209,0.01682,0.003927,0.018729,-0.006378,-0.020713,0.004575,-0.000616,-0.003133,-0.010179
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1102,0.106994,0.170609,0.00528,-0.097546,0.059703,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.007846,0.030474,0.08474,0.005196,0.010041,-0.029732,-0.006193,-0.031759,0.001856,0.029597,0.002154,0.013073,-0.008754,-0.009109,0.010634,-0.003821,-0.003856,-0.002634
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1103,0.112685,0.169593,-0.006411,-0.10013,0.044008,-0.046854,-0.00705,-0.005538,0.039269,0.075992,0.011367,0.013638,-0.02215,-0.005505,-0.036644,-0.01127,0.019427,-0.002027,0.010559,-0.008004,-0.016346,0.005564,-0.011216,-0.009278,-0.006945
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1580,0.127482,0.182795,-0.003017,-0.103037,0.052317,-0.04769,-0.008695,-0.012692,0.040496,0.076904,0.007307,0.014987,-0.020961,-0.003716,-0.043159,0.001724,0.035986,-0.001647,0.006788,-0.009254,-0.010357,-0.001731,0.000246,-0.000482,-0.010298
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1581,0.113823,0.175687,0.001131,-0.110467,0.057241,-0.045459,-0.003995,-0.008077,0.040905,0.084558,0.004222,0.013488,-0.02215,-0.000826,-0.04248,0.003978,0.040549,0.004687,0.005405,-0.005628,-0.010731,0.00643,-0.013557,0.003494,-0.000958
Blanco:Anatolia_Barcin_N:I1583,0.119514,0.180764,0.00264,-0.10756,0.048932,-0.051037,-0.010575,-0.008769,0.035792,0.087656,0.012342,0.012139,-0.023786,0.005092,-0.036644,-0.006497,0.020861,0.002534,0.011816,-0.003877,-0.011729,0.004822,0.001232,-0.006748,-0.00491
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0231,0.122929,0.082258,0.044877,0.113697,-0.033852,0.046575,0,-0.006,-0.051949,-0.072165,0.007307,0.001049,0.003271,-0.022708,0.029994,0.018297,0.005998,-0.003547,-0.00176,0.011005,-0.003244,0,-0.001725,0.013616,-0.000838
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0357,0.126344,0.092413,0.038089,0.107883,-0.029852,0.039324,0.00564,-0.008077,-0.043768,-0.065605,-0.001137,-0.00015,-0.003568,-0.024772,0.035287,0.01896,0.00013,0.003167,-0.005279,0.004877,0.003619,0.006925,0.008504,0.012532,-0.005269
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0370,0.124067,0.08632,0.049403,0.111759,-0.027697,0.044623,0.00517,-0.000462,-0.066061,-0.066516,-0.002436,-0.00015,0.000297,-0.025735,0.03868,0.013789,0.000782,-0.000127,-0.005154,0.015758,0.001622,-0.0115,0.007025,0.021328,-0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0429,0.130897,0.088351,0.044123,0.126617,-0.030467,0.050758,0.005875,0.003,-0.059516,-0.075992,0.000974,-0.008992,0.002081,-0.018717,0.039359,0.020949,0.004955,-0.000887,0.003897,0.022636,-0.005615,0.000495,0.020089,0.018798,-0.013651
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0438,0.126344,0.085304,0.042615,0.122741,-0.032929,0.048806,-0.002115,0.002077,-0.068925,-0.080548,0.00065,0.002548,-0.00892,-0.029176,0.032437,0.011668,0.002347,-0.005068,-0.006285,0.018009,-0.00025,0.001731,0.021199,0.021328,-0.007185
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0439,0.127482,0.096475,0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0443,0.124067,0.093429,0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.018918,0.002036
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0.045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Blanco:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara:I7489,0.122929,0.090382,0.042238,0.110144,-0.03416,0.043507,0.004935,0.000692,-0.058085,-0.082735,0.005196,0.004046,-0.010406,-0.006881,0.041123,0.01485,-0.008345,-0.006588,-0.002388,0.006878,-0.010232,-0.001731,0.014173,0.018075,-0.006586
Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF009,-0.162767,0.07718,-0.024513,-0.079135,0.009848,-0.047969,-0.052877,0.020538,0.13294,0.002005,0.025333,-0.026676,0.057978,-0.052985,0.072882,-0.034076,0.002347,-0.05625,-0.130475,0.04152,-0.026204,-0.120314,0.067909,-0.016508,0.012334
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Moro:MAR_Taforalt:TAF011,-0.194638,0.085304,-0.021873,-0.088825,0.026774,-0.059961,-0.072148,0.019845,0.161165,0.002551,0.016564,-0.035818,0.080574,-0.051196,0.066367,-0.037523,0.012126,-0.071199,-0.14493,0.035767,-0.041427,-0.12662,0.068279,-0.011447,0.018441
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Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.9496% / 0.02949569
96.6 Blanco
3.4 Moro
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De nada compadre!Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Target: Pedro_scaledQuote:
Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico
Distance: 2.1578% / 0.02157754
47.6 Iberian
19.6 Northwestern_European
13.0 Western_European
7.8 Italian
7.0 Northwestern_African
3.4 Northeastern_African
1.0 Gambian
0.6 South_American
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.2782% / 0.02278187 | ADC: 0.25x
69.8 Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura
12.2 Western_European:French_Alsace
9.2 Northwestern_European:Scottish
7.2 Northeastern_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen
1.4 Gambian:Gambian
0.2 South_American:Bolivian_Pando
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Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 2.9090% / 0.02909025
92.6 Blanco
7.4 Moro
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...wY6FE721DDRPqIQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro Ruben
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