Are you happy with your haplogroups?

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

Dodging E, J or N was good even if it doesnt mean much or anything, still feels better. Apart from that, i don't really care.

Something most people probably don't realize, is that they have all the halogroups in their family tree, even all the Y, they are on the male maternal side, and all the mt on the female paternal side. Just different proportions, although something close statistically to the average frequency for your region/country.

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I do not understand, the haplogroup is not transmitted uninterruptedly from parents to children? until a certain age of course, the acquisition of the type of haplogroup is initially random. We only inherited one anyway.

I'm Yamnaya as fack :p

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

I do not understand, the haplogroup is not transmitted uninterruptedly from parents to children? until a certain age of course, the acquisition of the type of haplogroup is initially random. We only inherited one anyway.

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Yes but that means both your Y and mt shown in your profile, you can only be sure half of your ancestors had that Y and mt. Half of what leads to you.

Your maternal grandfather could well have been R1 or I1, you wouldn't know about it, even less before that, like the grandfather of your mother etc.. And the mother of your father could have been L, you wouldn't know about it either. It's only half of the story, at best.

For example my grandmother on the paternal side is U5, should i identify as H1 or U5? She contributed equally as my maternal grandmother to me (25%), if she had been Chinese, i would still be mt H. Who knows how many different mt all my paternal female ancestors had. Same goes for Y. What you get in results is only all the men on your paternal side. That's 1/4 of all your human ancestors. They could have swap race a million times with the same Y anyway during all this time.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

They had both, there is a carioca of portuguese minhoto paternal origin on anthopogenica with y DNA j1-L620 , not a semitic, nor farmer clade at , it is in a downstream branch of the khvalinky steppe herder i Just told you, that is possibly spread by indo europeans(maybe the alans?).My point is just J1 is not semitic exclusive, once its origins were in the caucasus this is perfectly understandable.

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J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.

Yeah, R1a Slavic master-race.

Since no one dares to invade us, we invade ourselves. What more proof of superiority can you ask for?

Although unfortunately I don't like vodka, so I am not a good representative of my ancestral ethnicity.

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Originally Posted by Mont

J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.

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Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade is downstream of yours(that means that with further testing It might be your clade). Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G .
ALL J y DNA are of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade os downstream of yours. Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G , J y DNA is of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.

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Again, J2 was way more present than J1. Also, about the Yamnaya theory you said, I have heard people talking about J2 but never J1 present in Yamnaya, could you link me some studies?

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Originally Posted by Tongio

That is strange , you got few SNPs read, maybe you were negative for all the main branches genera generaly reads, like P58 ,the semitic branch.Some J1 branches in Europe might have been brough from the caucasus by the Yamnaya as two J1 infividuals have been found in the steppes, one recently in Khvalinsky, https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...he-Volga-River, typical local autossomal.Neolithic farmers also had some J1, so you never know till tou get to know your specific branch.

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Originally Posted by Mont

Again, J2 was way more present than J1. Also, about the Yamnaya theory you said, I have heard people talking about J2 but never J1 present in Yamnaya, could you link me some studies?

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The study is the subject of this tread i have linked before.

https://www.eupedia.com/forum/attach...5&d=1648410834

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Originally Posted by Tongio

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The study is the subject of this tread i have linked before.

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I have seen that one, but do you have more?

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Originally Posted by Mont

I have seen that one, but do you have more?

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I remember before this study there was already a J1 in the region among ancient steppe herders, i don't know where to find about it tho.