Are you happy with your haplogroups?

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Originally Posted by Tongio

I remember before this study there was already a J1 in the region among ancient steppe herders, i don't know where to find about it tho.

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I see, I also have seen a study about J1 in portuguese, it said that they all had the jewish modal haplotype and lacked the arab modal haplotype.

Let me see if I can find it again.

I found this one, although I still need to go to the computer (I'm on cellphone right now) to see if it's truly the one I have read, for I can only open full version of studies on the computer.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...7.2005.00161.x

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Originally Posted by Mont

I found this one, although I still need to go to the computer (I'm on cellphone right now) to see if it's truly the one I have read, for I can only open full version of studies on the computer.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...7.2005.00161.x

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https://www.eupedia.com/forum/thread...lian-Y-DNA-J1b

Absolutely disgusted, disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Mont

J1, in my case, is semitic, that's also my point. And the neolithic european farmers were way more J2 (which is anatolian, their place of origin) than J1.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

Your clade z2215 is too upstream/basal to tell if its specificaly semitic, the indo european clade is downstream of yours(that means that with further testing It might be your clade). Anatolian farmers y DNA was E1b and G .
ALL J y DNA are of caucasian Hunter gatherers/iranian farmer origin and both J1 and J2 ocurred amomg european farmers as a minority.

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Neolithic farmers were not J or E, 1.5% each, the only E found was in the Balkan. They were mostly G and I2 out of 69 samples across all farmers cultures in Europe. :

Haplogroups----------------C1a---E1b----F---G2a---H2---I-----I1---I2a----J2---R1a---R1b---T
Neolithic Europe (n=69)----3-----1.5----6----61----3----3----1.5---16----1.5----0----1.5----3


I think some might confuse it with the frequency of mtDNA J, not the same thing.

They’re alright. I’m still perplexed as to how I got my Y-DNA haplogroup, but I’m happy to be apart of the R1a1 master race lol.

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

Neolithic farmers were not J or E, 1.5% each, the only E found was in the Balkan. They were mostly G and I2 out of 69 samples across all farmers cultures in Europe. :

Haplogroups----------------C1a---E1b----F---G2a---H2---I-----I1---I2a----J2---R1a---R1b---T
Neolithic Europe (n=69)----3-----1.5----6----61----3----3----1.5---16----1.5----0----1.5----3


I think some might confuse it with the frequency of mtDNA J, not the same thing.

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That's just the earliest wave tho.

I’m very happy with my Y-chromosome haplogroup. Also with my mitochondrial whose subclade seems to be somewhat common in my country, but don’t know so much about it yet.

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

That's just the earliest wave tho.

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Thus the ENF Early Neolithic Farmers. Some countries can be modeled with just those and BA, which brought its own farmer-like Dzudzuana derived ancestry, some need other major inputs.

Kinda do wonder about my MtDNA...it seems to really appear in Europe during the early Bronze Age ...I think a Scythian burial in the Caucasus had it too..