Which page has Y-DNA ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Fakirbakir
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Which page has Y-DNA ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Fakirbakir
I remember reading in several studies that H5 (especially H5a1f, H5a1r, H5a1s, H5a2, H5b4, H5e1a, H5u1, H5a1a), H6 (especially H6c, H6a1a9, H6a1b3), U4 especially U4a (U4a2a, U4a2b, U4a2c, U4a2g, U4d1), U5 especially U5a (U5a1a2a, U5a1c1, U5a2a including U5a2a1b, U5a2b1, U5b1a1), U3 (U3a1a, U3b1b) and U2e1b1 are typically Slavic mtDNA subclades, and subclades such as U2e1g, U2e2a1, U4a2b, U4c2, U5a1b1c, U5a2b1, U5b1e, U5b2a2b1 are typically both Slavic and Germanic (common among both groups).
Yet I can see that in this study they counted some of them as "Scandinavian-German".
They say that they examined Y-DNA as well. (p 44).Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
The study has a supplement somewhere with charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
I have found it. Check p 98Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
Thanks, 97 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fakirbakir
Xiongnu / Hunnu samples from Egyin Gol, Duurling Nars, Barköl and Birlik:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fakirbakir
1) Paternal lineages:
1a) East Asian haplogroups (22 samples - ca. 82% of the total):
Sample: Y-DNA
EG27: C2e-Z1338
EG46: C2-M217
EG47: C2-M217
EG50: C2-M217
EG52: C2-M217
EG53: C2-M217
EG54: C2-M217
EG57: C2e-Z1338
EG58: C2e-Z1338
EG70: C-M130
MNX2: C2-M217
EG88: Q1a2-M346
EG92: Q1a2-M346
EG94: Q1a2-M346
EG112: Q-M242 (maybe Q1b)
Barköl1: Q1a3a-M3
Barköl2: Q1a3a-M3
Barköl3: Q1a3a-M3
EG25A: N1c
EG84.1: N1c
EG19: N1c1-Tat
EG95: O3a2
1b) West Eurasian haplogroups (5 samples - ca. 18% of the total):
Sample: Y-DNA
EG69: R1b
EG84bis: I2c1
MNX3: R1a1a
EG72: R1a
EG73: R1a
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2) Maternal lineages:
2a) East Asian haplogroups (43 samples - ca. 83% of the total):
Sample: mtDNA
EG46: D4 (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG52: D4 (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG54: D4 (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG57: D4 (Y-DNA: C2e-Z1338)
EG70: D4 (Y-DNA: C-M130)
EG72: D4 (Y-DNA: R1a)
EG84bis: D4o1 (Y-DNA: I2c1)
EG73: D4 (Y-DNA: R1a)
EG88: D4 (Y-DNA: Q1a2-M346)
EG94: D4 (Y-DNA: Q1a2-M346)
MNX2: D4 (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG73: D4
EG74: D4
EG28: D4
EG48: D4
EG32A: D4
EG65: D4
EG77: D4
EG41: D4
EG61: D4
EG63: D4o1
EG35: D4o1
EG36: D4o1
EG37A: D4o1
EG93: D4o1
EG91: D4o1
EG83b: D4o1
EG68: D4o1
EG53: D5/D5a (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG69: D5/D5a (Y-DNA: R1b)
EG47: C5 (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG50: C (Y-DNA: C2-M217)
EG39: C4a1
EG66: C
EG56: C
EG49: C
EG58: F1b (Y-DNA: C2e-Z1338)
EG59: F1b
EG82: F1b
EG83: F1b
EG25A: G2a (Y-DNA: N1c)
Birlik2: G2
EG84.1: B4b (Y-DNA: N1c)
2b) Uncertain origin, depends on subclade (2 samples - ca. 3%):
Sample: mtDNA
EG92: M (Y-DNA: Q1a2-M346)
EG90: M
2c) West Eurasian haplogroups (7 samples - ca. 14% of the total):
Sample: mtDNA
EG76: U5a1a
EG78: U5a1a
MNX3: U2e1 (Y-DNA: R1a1a)
EG95: U2 (Y-DNA: O3a2)
EG27: J1 (Y-DNA: C2e-Z1338)
EG18A: J1
Birlik1: H
Hey Polak how do yo know that Egiin Gol N1c1 has East Asian origin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
All of N1c ultimately has East Asian origin. Only N1c-L708 and more recent branches are European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iku-Kuu Aurinko&Karhu
But N1c-Tat (which is an older branch than L708) has not been found anywhere in Europe so far.
Lol you fucking retarded delusional Polak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
N1c in China (2013 publication):
http://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com...71-2148-13-216
Xiliao He - 26 samples of N1* and N1c dated to 6500-2700 years ago.
See also Ye Zhang et al. (2016 publication):
Jiangjialiang (Xueshan culture) - N1c-Tat (age 5600-4900 years ago)
Also (Xiaohe = Caucasoid Tocharian mummies):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T34tkRC-e2...EAsiaMetal.PNG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T34tkRC-e2...EAsiaMetal.PNG
N1c came from China to Europe:
Some of these could be N1c too:Quote:
N1 was in northern China with 1st farmers and probably before. N1c appears in Upper Xiajiadian. They were herders from the steppe with cattle, horses and bronze, which they had through contacts with Andronovo near the Altai mountains.
300 years later Donghu people arrived from the steppe in the Liao river area. They started pillaging and raiding on horseback in the northern Chinese states. That is when the 1st parts of the Great Wall were built.
By 4,500 years ago N1c tribes had already crossed the entire Siberia and were already in northern Europe.
IMO N1c arrived on the Siberian steppes east of Lake Bajkal with early pottery, 12-13,000 years ago. They (all N + subclades) came from the Yellow Sea. Sea levels had started to rise.
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Comb Ceramic or Pit-Comb Ware (in Europe), Jeulmun pottery or Jeulmun vessel (in Korea) is a type of pottery subjected to geometric patterns in the comb-like tool. This type of pottery developed in northern woodland of the Eurasia, and widely distributed to Baltic, Finland, the Volga upstream flow, south Siberia, Lake Baikal, Mongolian Plateau, Liaodong Peninsula and Korean Peninsula. The oldest ones have been discovered from the remains of Liao civilization - Xinglongwa culture (6200 - 5400 BC).[1] It appears in 4200 BC in Finland and 4000 BC in the Korean Peninsula, so the Urheimat is assumed to be Liao region and spread afterward to North Europe through Siberia and to Korean peniusla. This is possibly related to Uralic migration and spread of haprogroup N (Y-DNA).[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seima-Turbino_phenomenon