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Well that's the thing, Afrikaners are considered an ethnic group, but too new a one ... not one of the stabilized groups. It is barely a few hundred years old. So no, I wouldn't qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer
As to your question, mainly from Dutch and Germans.
Okay, but the fact remains you still belong to the European people. Surprising results aside, you can only submit yourself and expect a pleasant denial. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Yes but you see ... if someone had like a German father and Dutch mother, they wouldn't qualify. So why would I? I'm essentially something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeornWulfWer
Dutch and German. Ice and snow. Who knows till you submit your results?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
He is closing up shop soon, or so he seems to be hinting at, so get in there regardless of your primary considerations. :thumb001:
Loki, just lie and say you're from Cleves. ;)
I'll just post my admixture score again for comparison
West Asian 9.2
Northwest African 0
South European 17.1
Northeast Asian 0
Southwest Asian 0
East Asian 0
North European 73.7
West African 0
East African 0
South Asian 0
evon(West Norwegian)
West Asian 6,8
Northwest African 0
South European 23
Northeast Asian 0
Southwest Asian 0
East Asian 0,8
North European 69,4
West African 0
East African 0
South Asian 0
I was told:
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While your ancestry does not fit the submission criteria, it sounds interesting, so I will include your data in the Project.
The Dutch are Germans but not the converse. He probably has very few or no pure Dutch samples. It's good to see you got in the project before the submission opportunity ended. After the submissions end, he'll start on the other phases of the project.
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Clusters Galore with Dodecad populations
Here is a spreadsheet of Clusters Galore analysis with Dodecad populations: 692 reference individuals + 261 Dodecad Project participants from 24 different populations with at least 5 members each:Assyrian, Scandinavian, Greek, Finnish, S_Italian_Sicilian, Ashkenazi, German, Indian, Portuguese, Armenian, Russian, Spanish, British, Irish, Turkish, N_Italian, Balkans, Iranian, North_African, East_African, French, Chinese, Japanese, PolishAs a reminder to new readers, the Clusters Galore technique consists of applying multidimensional scaling on genomic data to convert ~152,000 SNPs into a number of continuous dimensions capturing most of the variation, followed by employment of MCLUST to cluster individuals along these dimensions.
In total, 65 clusters were obtained when 10 MDS dimensions were retained.
Some observations:
- Most Greeks and all South Italians/Sicilians continue to fall in the same cluster #4. The fact that the latter population, despite being one of the largest (20 individuals) continues to remain unsplit and distinctive testifies to the fact that it is probably homogeneous and lacks substantial regional inbreeding within it.
- Cluster #2 includes most Germanic individuals and also the Irish
- Cluster #5 is made mostly of Central/North Italians
- Non-Greek Balkan participants fall mostly in cluster #6, which also includes the non-Gypsy admixed reference Romanians
- Project and reference Iberians (Spaniards and Portuguese) continue to be undifferentiated and distinctive, falling in cluster #14; my comments on South Italians/Sicilians also probably apply to them as well.
- There is a trace of structure in the Ashkenazi population, which is split into two clusters. This probably underscores the benefits of large samples in the inference of structure, as 25 Ashkenazi Jews have submitted their results to the Project.
- Project Russians have split affiliations between a circum-Baltic cluster #3 and the Finnish cluster #7.
- North Africans form two new clusters that do no overlap with either reference Mozabites or Egyptians. There is great variety in North Africa, and the 8 people who have submitted their samples are a good start to learning about this region of the world.
- The Chinese are split into two, one part aligning with the "southern" Miaozu and one part aligning with the "northern" Japanese.
Please do not ask me which cluster you fall in, as there will be a separate analysis of Project participants identified by their DOD number but without ethnic identifiers, in compliance with the Project's privacy policy.
http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/02/...h-dodecad.html
Cluster 2 appears “Germanic or Celto-Germanic”. All the Irish fell into it. Ten out of 11 Germans and 16 of 17 Brits were in it. The other one German was in the French cluster. The other one Brit fell into cluster 6 that includes eight of 10 from the Balkans and 14 of 16 Romanians. Some French are in cluster 2. Twelve out of the 19 Scandinavians were in cluster 2. The other seven fell into cluster 3 “circum-Baltic”. Cluster 3 includes all the Lithuanians, Belorussians, and five out of six Poles. Pallantides is probably in cluster 3. There are four Russians in the Finn cluster. The other eight Russians are in cluster 3. I would expect Southern Swedes or most to be in cluster 2. One Finn made it in cluster 3 likely a Fennoswede. The Portuguese and Spaniards fall into the same cluster along with one Northern Italian and two French.
Most of the Armenians are in cluster 15. This includes all eight Dodecad samples and 15 of 19 from (a) dataset(s). Eight of nine Assyrians are in cluster 15 along with two Turks and one Syrian. The Assyrians are similar to the Armenians. Sixteen of 21 Turks are in cluster 18 along with one Armenian and one Syrian. Sixteen of 20 Georgians are in cluster 31 with no one else. All Lezgians are in cluster 30 with three Georgians and 11 of 17 Adyghe. All Iranians are in cluster 19 with one Turk.
Although the IDs go up to DOD448, the Dodecad samples tally up to 261 for the 65 cluster analysis. Those that are ethnically mixed weren’t included.
Clusters Galore, K=65, 36 reference populations (692 individuals) + 24 Dodecad populations (261 individuals)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?...CO355tgB#gid=0
I'm DOD197, on this one I appear to be in cluster 7.
Post by Fanty from the Dodecad blog
There are also two White Uthan samples in the cluster.Quote:
The ones who typed in their heritage in the Anchestry thread:
5 Germans (with a Tendency for Eastgermans or Prussians from the now lost "Eastern Terretories" (Silesia etc)
1 German/Polish/Belorussian
1 German/Serbian/Slovako
1 American with mainly German and English heritage.
2 Slovenians
2 Norse
1 Irish
Also:
Some people who belong to 2 or more Clusters are in this cluster combined with the White Utahns Cluster.
1 Norse, 1 British and one German or so and Cluster 12 and 7 at the same time.
No other multiclustering of Cluster 7.