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Originally Posted by Cniva
Well, it wasn't long ago that the USSR occupied them and attempts were made to 'integrate them better within the USSR' by importing hundreds of thousands of ethnic Russians to there. :p Such things tend to leave scars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
There does exist one ethnic Russian group in the Baltics that does live more in harmony with the local populace, though. The Russian Old Believers who fled persecution in the Russian Empire during the 17th century. They're different from the Soviet workers who came there with Stalin.
Latvians and Estonians can be very insecure about their ethnic Russians though. It's not rare for a Latvian or Estonian to be happy over the fact fewer people know Russian as a foreign language, which is childish to me. ;)
OK, I found these estimates for Silesia:
In year 1350, Silesia had around 510,000 inhabitants (of them 150,000 in Upper Silesia and 360,000 in Lower Silesia). Of those 510,000 around 150,000 (according to estimates by Maleczynski) were Germans, most of whom inhabited cities and rural areas along the Sudeten mountains (Sudeten mountains separated Czechia from Silesia - German settlers colonized both sides of these mountains).
However, according to Tomasz Kamusella, Maleczynski overestimated the number of Germans.
Estimates for Early Medieval Silesia (at that time the population was fully Slavic) are here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._Slavic_tribes
So, the population of Silesia was:Quote:
c. AD 1000, the total population of Silesia is estimated as around 250,000 people.
In year 1000 AD - 250,000 (around 100% Slavic)
In year 1350 AD - 510,000 (at least 71% Slavic, up to 29% German)
So German genetic contribution is not bigger than 1/3.
The decline of Slavic-speakers after 1350 was cultural.
Yoda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
http://sharocity.com/wp-content/uplo...-Yoda-Meme.jpg
In Poland it is more geographically divided. Eastern Poland is very anti-Russian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Rethelistan is anti-Russian and philo-German, even though they hardly have anything in common with Germany. My area is not anti-Russian (traditionally it was even pro-Russian - we had a lot of supporters of Roman Dmowski in the early 20th century) and we used to be anti-German, but now we get along with Germans just fine.
Magnolia clearly doesn't understand that Western Poles actually like East Slavs.
The disproportion of forces was too big in 1939. And don't forget that the USSR also invaded from the east.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cniva
But when on level playing field, we defeated the Germans in 1918-1919 (Posener Aufstand*). I'm talking about my region. In September 1939, Army Poznań (units from my region) was the best-performing Polish Army, which carried out the only major counterattack of the campaign (see the battle of Bzura**).
Unlike Mazovians we did not start ridiculous uprisings which had no chances to succeed (vide Warsaw 1944).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greate...18–1919)
*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud0UpWU-SzA
**
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zt_Q7J3zTY
After winning the uprising against Germany, on 28 August of 1919 the Army of Greater Poland (under general Józef Dowbor-Muśnicki) was incorporated into the structures of the Polish Army. Soon later, our soldiers were sent to the Eastern Front where they played a very important role in repulsing the Bolshevik invasion (see battle of Warsaw 1920). So not only we liberated ourselves without any help from Warsaw government, but later we saved Warsaw's ass. If not for the help of over 70,000 of battle-hardened reinforcements from Provinz Posen, Warsaw could fall to the Russians in 1920.
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Originally Posted by Litvin
That is if the original slavs would come out fully eastern euro/Baltic on modern DNA tests. Even the samples we've seen from Poland recently aren't R1a so I'm a bit suspicious of these medevial samples which may be mixed with a non-slavic( Baltic) pre-population, and why they turn out so Baltic and eastern euro.
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Maybe that is the case with Prussian germans, but what about Volga Germans, Transylvanian Saxons etc? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SrZePx0URW...stsiedlung.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
Klaus Johannis(Romania's president) is a Transylvanian Saxon and he looks German imo (rather than Romanian)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...hannis2005.jpg
Many people in eastern part of Europe are ashamed of having some German ancestry, and that is wrong.
It is now very fashionable to spit on Germans and Germany, but actually it's rather pathetic.