Early Indo-Iranians on Gedmatch

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Originally Posted by Böri

You are Iranian just as Jamaican Usain Bolt is Anglo-Saxon. xD

Worry not, Sardinians are in even worse situation than you. They score almost no PIE Yamna. They are fully native farmers.

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Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

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Originally Posted by Aren

Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

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Exactly, Modern West Iranians like Persians or Kurds never had direct Indo-Iranian ancestry like Tajiks, Pamiris or Pashtuns, so it makes it perfect sense that we have less Steppe admix.

People have to consider the fact that those tribes were outnumbered by the native populations of Iran, otherwise the story would have been different today.

what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

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Originally Posted by Aren

Kurds only have slightly less Sintashta related ancestry than Anatolian Turks have actual Turkic input.
But if we use the Iron Age/Late Bronze Age samples from Turan who seem to be 50% Sintashta + 50% BMAC as a proxy for early Iranian speakers then Kurds have almost 30% of that kind of admix.

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That’s the ancestral OWD which native Mesopotamian people like you had. You wanted to become Arya now see the result.
That’s not just Kurds in fact. That applies from Spain to Bangladesh including Greeks, Albanians and Armenians.

Everyone is OWD except Böri, wow xD

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Originally Posted by Hadouken

what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

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Originally Posted by Pahli

Exactly, Modern West Iranians like Persians or Kurds never had direct Indo-Iranian ancestry like Tajiks, Pamiris or Pashtuns, so it makes it perfect sense that we have less Steppe admix.

People have to consider the fact that those tribes were outnumbered by the native populations of Iran, otherwise the story would have been different today.

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Pretty much same scenario in Europe. Which is why Scandinavias and Brits have preserved the Steppe admix in much higher percentages than Southern Europeans. And Balts/Finns preserved the local HG admix to a much higher degree than say Albanians or Greeks. There were already proto-cities in the Balkans before the IE migrations.

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Originally Posted by Aren

Pretty much same scenario in Europe. Which is why Scandinavias and Brits have preserved the Steppe admix in much higher percentages than Southern Europeans. And Balts/Finns preserved the local HG admix to a much higher degree than say Albanians or Greeks. There were already proto-cities in the Balkans before the IE migrations.

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The HGs of Southern Europe got absorbed into the farmers from Anatolia, even after the Steppe invasion they are still dominantly more farmer than HG today.

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Originally Posted by Böri

That’s the ancestral OWD which native Mesopotamian people like you had. You wanted to become Arya now see the result.
That’s not just Kurds in fact. That applies from Spain to Bangladesh including Greeks, Albanians and Armenians.

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LIKE ME?! HAHA
If we wanted to be "Arya" we would've been by now. We've been living in close proximity to Iranic speakers for maybe two millenias yet we are not nearly as Persianfied as you Turks and especially your ancestors who adopted everything Persian.
Also Assyrians have no Steppe admix.

so what about the indoiranian and indus valley component from dnaland ?

pahli