Ford's (Bosnian Serb) autosomal results

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Originally Posted by Nato

Lmao Jana is weird person. She teached me a lot about genetics though, and gave me good recommendations which test to try.

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I read some of her post, she knows more history than genetics, but history can be made into propaganda where genetics can not.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

Wallachia just as much. Not with the same Balkan regions though.

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Most closest Balkan populations to Moldavians (both from today RM, and Moldova region from Romania) are Western Balkanites, Serbs, Bosnians and Croatians. Wallachians are close to Bulgarians, Macedonians and Greeks. Since Moldavians are half Slavs, half Balkanites, this make sense.

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Originally Posted by Nato

We don't cluster anywhere near Bulgarians lmao, much closer to Western Slavs. There is no south slavic genetics man.

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That's normal.
Bulgarians are the only Slavs that crossed Romania during migration.
The others went round it.

Western Balkan Slavs migrated around the Northern Carpathians, and entered Pannonia in Slovakia (like the Mongols did).
That's why they're closer to (South) Western Slavs, but also have some similarities with the Moldovans.

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Originally Posted by Cumansky

I read some of her post, she knows more history than genetics, but history can be made into propaganda where genetics can not.

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Wouldn't agree about that though. It's correct Croats have very low Germanic DNA. It was just a political propaganda during WW2 because NDH allied with Germans, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Cumansky

There was Saxons with origin in Saxony living in Kingdom of Hungary

I even seen Saxon church from somewhere in Yugoslavia in this forum posted

The reality a lot of Balkaners could assimilate Saxons in middle age, same with my father family and they did. I have some low Germanic admixture in my DNA 14.4%. 6.4% is show as Saxony Germany, the other 8% Scandinavian (mother side is more likely bulk of Scandinavian)

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There are some Serbs which carry R1b-U106 and I2-M223 and they are mostly from areas where Saxon miners lived in middle age (Kosovo, Kopaonik).
One Serb from near Kopaonik who carry I2-M223 have matches in Germany in y dna.
Dick's haplogroup probably came with Saxon miners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons_in_medieval_Serbia

Saxon church is in one village on Kopaonik mountain in Serbia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopaonik

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Originally Posted by El_Moldovano

Most closest Balkan populations to Moldavians (both from today RM, and Moldova region from Romania) are Western Balkanites, Serbs, Bosnians and Croatians. Wallachians are close to Bulgarians, Macedonians and Greeks. Since Moldavians are half Slavs, half Balkanites, this make sense.

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Sorry, you skip your cousins Western and Southern Ukrainians, Eastern Hungarians

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Originally Posted by Cumansky

Sorry, you skip your cousins Western and Southern Ukrainians, Eastern Hungarians

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I speak about genetical conection with Balkan Slavs, and most closest to us are Western Balkan Slavs. Of course biggest part of Slavic influence is from Ruthenians (aka today Ukrainians), especially the Western ones, some Slavic DNA is from Hungarians (Csango people).

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Originally Posted by Nato

Wouldn't agree about that though. It's correct Croats have very low Germanic DNA. It was just a political propaganda during WW2 because NDH allied with Germans, nothing more.

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No some Croats from Pannonia have high Germanic, higher in Slovenia most places

I can show some genetic data result if you want

Poles like me are low Germanic, LukaszM I seen in other forum is only Pole who is seen with lower Germanic than me couple %. There is also Krabat like Peterski 40% Germanic..

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Originally Posted by Cumansky

No some Croats from Pannonia have high Germanic, higher in Slovenia most places

I can show some genetic data result if you want

Poles like me are low Germanic, LukaszM I seen in other forum is only Pole who is seen with lower Germanic than me couple %. There is also Krabat like Peterski 40% Germanic..

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I wasn't speaking about northern Croats but Croats in general. wtf is Krabat, are you trolling or something ? Funny how strongly Germanic Peterski is, he don't like Germans very much.

To put it short: Slovenes, North Croats : Slavic + German + Illyrian

rest of Croats (also Bosniaks, Bosnian and Croatian Serbs) : Slavic + Illyrian

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Originally Posted by El_Moldovano

I speak about genetical conection with Balkan Slavs, and most closest to us are Western Balkan Slavs. Of course biggest part of Slavic influence is from Ruthenians (aka today Ukrainians), especially the Western ones, some Slavic DNA is from Hungarians (Csango people).

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Vlachs, Saxons, Slavs, Jews maybe some other stuff but I don't want offend your nationalism too much