Bulgarian Autosomal (very differing) Results

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Originally Posted by Sofia

I wish I had such results, very cool. I think you have admixture with purely Siberian people - Yakuts, Nganasan, Eskimo etc

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yeah i get that on DNA land..on other similar ones - north-east asian :)

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Originally Posted by Sofia

I wish I had such results, very cool. I think you have admixture with purely Siberian people - Yakuts, Nganasan, Eskimo etc

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My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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Originally Posted by TheBalkanite

My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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In such small amounts (single digit, especially below 5%) those components might as well be misread or more randomly assigned.

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Originally Posted by TheBalkanite

My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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exactly...mine too

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Originally Posted by TheBalkanite

My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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Just checked your gedmatch results and I noticed the same. Basically, if you have Siberian/East Asian + South Asian - high chance for a Turkic admixture. Your is mainly East Asian and even Oceanian is higher than Siberian, interesting...

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Originally Posted by TheBalkanite

My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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It's nothing unsual for K13 to overestimate somebody's East Eurasian score. Do you get similar values on K15 and dodecad?

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

It's nothing unsual for K13 to overestimate somebody's East Eurasian score. Do you get similar values on K15 and dodecad?

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Eurogenes V2 K15
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.55
2 West_Med 14.44
3 Eastern_Euro 14.24
4 East_Med 14.13
5 West_Asian 11.79
6 North_Sea 11.23
7 Atlantic 10.42
8 Red_Sea 2.95
9 Oceanian 0.68
10 Southeast_Asian 0.59
Here it is lower but again southeast asian something chinese like instead of siberian

Dodecad K12b
# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.44
2 Atlantic_Med 25.87
3 Caucasus 25.4
4 Southwest_Asian 7.81
5 Gedrosia 4.33
6 Southeast_Asian 1
7 Northwest_African 0.7
8 East_Asian 0.33
9 Siberian 0.12
Again southeast asian and east asian more so than siberia.

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Originally Posted by Sofia

Just checked your gedmatch results and I noticed the same. Basically, if you have Siberian/East Asian + South Asian - high chance for a Turkic admixture. Your is mainly East Asian and even Oceanian is higher than Siberian, interesting...

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Yes a lot of Balkan Turks score Asian and South Asian but i have no South Asian so probably its just something random not recent Turkic ancestry but who knows.

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Originally Posted by Sofia

Isn't the Siberian a lot higher than any (East) Balkan ethnicity average on every GEDmatch calculator's spreadsheet, what do you mean?



Haha yeah, thanks for replying and high-five on the same haplogroup! Yeah, I noticed that 23andMe and Ancestry are better when it comes to autosomal analysis. Will probably do ancestry in the future as the matching is much better due to bigger database. The H2a2a1 spread is a bit weird, isn't it? Most people are from Denmark, Indonesia and The Philippines? Not sure how to read yfull fully, maybe not many people have submitted their data there?

As far as Vlach ancestry - My maternal grandfather is from Vratsa region, don't know much about him. It seems that many people came to Mandritsa from Korçë, Albania which has a big Aromanian community but this was long ago(4 generations), since then he had a bulgarian wife from Panagyurishte where he settled and my father was the first to come in Sofia.

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Bulgarian Siberian average is around 1.5% as far as i observed. A Thracian Bulgarian from Komotini scores 3.8%. She doesn't have any known Turkic ancestry.


mt-DNA is not like y-DNA. I mean mt-DNA doesn't have specific subclade and their spreading is weird. I mean a mt-DNA can be seen both in Nigeria, China and Germany. Also as you stated there is no enough data in yfull. It is better to evaluate it among only Bulgarians.

It is possible you have either Albanian/Greek or Vlach ancestry as different from Bulgarian. But both Albanians' and Greeks' North Atlantic not that high and not enough to make you score 26. You may want to check this.

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Originally Posted by TheBalkanite

My east asian is kinda weird more northeastern asian(chinese/mongolian) than siberian.
Eurogenes K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.65
2 West_Med 18.57
3 East_Med 17.17
4 North_Atlantic 16.56
5 West_Asian 12.5
6 Red_Sea 2.86
7 East_Asian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.91
9 Siberian 0.38

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This two result is very different and a decent example for the question of how Bulgarian genetic diverse.


1 Baltic 29.65
4 North_Atlantic 16.56

1 North_Atlantic 26.9
2 Baltic 22.33