"Proto-Iranians were not Northern Europeans"

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Originally Posted by Token

Christianity was much more lenient to folk customs since the beginning, specially after it got in the hands of the Romans. The folklore and customs of Germanic countries remains pretty much undisturbed since pagan times.

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Germanics retained aspects of their original religion no different to Iranics but they still lost most of it. Christmas is said to have Germanic origins and is celebrated today. No different to Nowruz among Iranics today, keep in mind that Nowruz is much much more Iranic than Christmas is Germanic. Also, Iranic religions still survive among a minority of Iranic groups (Yazdanism & Zoroastrianism) whereas no Germanic religion survives (excluding neo-pagan LARPers). It's pretty bold to claim it's completely disappeared among Iranics but completely unchanged among Germanics. What unchanged aspects of folklore and customs continually exist among Germanics but not Iranics?

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Originally Posted by Mingle

My point is they had a common origin with Northern Euros. They didn't migrate from Northern Europe, and Northern Euros don't descend from them. Every Iranic or Indic that has been on GEDmatch knows they partially descend from a group that had a lot of Northern Europe-related DNA.

What are you using for BMAC and IVC in the OP? I wanna model myself with those components.

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Yep, they did migrate from Northern Europe. Sintashta (and by extension Andronovo and Srubna) is merely an offshoot from Eastern Corded Ware and this explains the close affinities between Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranic. Archeological records shows a steady morphing from NW IE to Proto-Iranic beginning in the easternmost segment of the Middle Dnieper culture, the Fatyanovo-Balanovo, proceeding with Abashevo and finishing with a migration towards the Ural Mountains, where these people from fucking Northern Europe gave birth to Sintashta after assimilating some Uralic speakers, which also explains Uralic loanwords in Indo-Iranic.

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Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes

Who are Jasz people to you? Do you consider them northern European, European, or what you consider them?

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Ugrics of Central Europe. They're not Iranic anymore. They don't have anything Iranic about them besides their name. They've completely assimilated into Hungarians. It would be like calling Catalans and Andalusians "Germanic" cause their name originates from Germanic tribes. Its no different to saying Hungarians are Turks as opposed to Ugrics.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Ugrics of Central Europe. They're not Iranic anymore. They don't have anything Iranic about them besides their name. They've completely assimilated into Hungarians. It would be like calling Catalans and Andalusians "Germanic" cause their name originates from Germanic tribes. Its no different to saying Hungarians are Turks as opposed to Ugrics.

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They have Ossetian genetic markers.

Once again, DNA of the so called 'full blown Northern Europeans' has NEVER been found in Kurdistan and we have got ancient DNA from Kurdistan from every historic era, Neolithic Age, Copper Age etc. The DNA in Kurdistan shows that there was no migration from the Mongoloid uncivilized Steppes at all.


DNA in ARYAN Kurdistan is unchanged for thousands of years. ARYAN Kurds who speak their own ARYAN NorthWest Iranian Ergative language, my people have still our ARYAN values/RELIGION have still the same DNA of ancient people who lived during the times of the Mitanni/Kassites, Medes.


People of Kurdistan are actually the 'full blown' ARYANS. We are the true ARYANS with an ARYAN soul, we breath ARYANISM.


ARYANISM FOREVER, b!tch$s!

Ancient Mitanni/Kassites in Kurdistan spoke Aryan and were Aryans. Ancient Medes in Kurdistan were ARYANS and were called ARYANS.

None of them had Mongoloid Steppes ancestry. We have got ancient DNA of their era and from their ARYAN region. Those ancient ARYAN folks were bloody ARYAN KURDS! These are FACTS!



ARYANISM FOREVER, b!tch$s!

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Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes

They have Ossetian genetic markers.

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Doesn't matter, there's no cultural/linguistic continuity. They're a natively Ugric-speaking people with genetics very close to other Hungarians so they belong to that group. If I find a Romanian or non-Jasz Hungarian with an Iranic marker, will he then be Iranic? Also, what about the Jasz without Ossetian markers?

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Doesn't matter, there's no cultural/linguistic continuity. They're a natively Ugric-speaking people with genetics very close to other Hungarians so they belong to that group. If I find a Romanian or non-Jasz Hungarian with an Iranic marker, will he then be Iranic? Also, what about the Jasz without Ossetian markers?

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You a tryhard, but you take L regardless.

Jasz language may extinct, but genetic is preserved in the Central European Noble Houses, ie House of Dragos. I don't think my Grandparents choose my Father first name "Jasz" as lottery random choice? What do you think?

I close with my Uncle GEDmatch:

80.9% Belarusian + 19.1% Ossetian @ 2.57

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Originally Posted by Token

Christianity was much more lenient to folk customs since the beginning, specially after it got in the hands of the Romans. The folklore and customs of Germanic countries remains pretty much undisturbed since pagan times.

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You people worship a curley haired negro jew who was born in the middle of the israeli desert. Every aspect of your culture is mostly westernized Semitic trash that came from the deserts of israel. Your names, Josh, Jacob, Aaron ... Etc are all Semitic.

At least with Iran, we celebrate the same traditions our ancestors did 2500 years ago with no amendments. You have no fucking clue the misery our people went through in order to retain the Persian language and tradition while being raped and massacred by isis like subhumans. One of the reasons why Iran is not an arabic speaking country is because of the hardship our people went through.

I'll give Europe 50 years and it'll be ran by monkeys and arabs. You people have no sense of nationality and patriotism. All of you are doomed to die because of your inability and weakness to defend yourself against invasions. Don't even try and say that our Iranic identity died out.

While the Iranian youth is moving towards
de-islamization, the German youth is becoming Islamic. Look at Paris and London then we can talk

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Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes

You a tryhard, but you take L regardless.

Jasz language may extinct, but genetic is preserved in the Central European Noble Houses, ie House of Dragos. I don't think my Grandparents choose my Father first name "Jasz" as lottery random choice? What do you think?

I close with my Uncle GEDmatch:

80.9% Belarusian + 19.1% Ossetian @ 2.57

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Dude, you have only some minor ancestry of the EAST Iranic Alan. Hungarian Finno-Ugric Atilla the Hun had many Alan warriors in his army. Maybe some of them were assimilated by the Magyar. That doesn't make Magyar Alan or Ossetians, lol. You have only a very small part of EAST Iranic people. But that doesn't make you anything close to proto-Iranic (ARYAN) people from Kurdistan.

You are much more (Finno-Ugric) MAGYAR than EAST Iranian.

Proto-Iranic had ergativity in it. Even today NorthWest Iranic (ARYAN) language of the Kurds, Kurdish has ergative construction in it. Ergativity is native to West Asia and is absent in aboriginal Mongoloid languages in the Steppes.

ERGATIVITY in proto-Indo-Iranian makes proto-Indo-Iranian and therefore proto-Iranic, proto-West Iranic, NATIVE to the Iranian Plateau.

The Medes spoke NorthWest Iranian language. The Mitanni/Kassites spoke proto-Iranic lanaguage. All of them lived in Kurdistan and the ancient DNA of their era and the region where they lived show no Mongoloid Steppes ancestry at all.

My ARYAN people speak the same ARYAN language of the mighty Mitanni and the magnificent Medes. We have the same ARYAN religion as the legendary Mitanni! Our ARYAN DNA is from them (Mitanni/Medes). Your people speak Finno-Ugric Magyar, lol!


ARYANISM FOREVER, b!tch$s!