Y-DNA of Iberia

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

No creo que la Dama de Elche parezca mongoloide, mas bien todo lo contrario, yo creo que tenia los ojos bastante redondos, muy mediterraneos, y tendria mucho sentido dado que los iberos eran, mas o menos, como los sardos de hoy en dia, o sea, extremadamente mediterraneos.

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Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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Originally Posted by Luso

Hoping for more samples. Right now Z225 is prevalent in north iberia

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I would like to see a proper distribution study about it. So far we are two people from southern Portugal in the forum and we both have it.

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Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

I would like to see a proper distribution study about it. So far we are two people from southern Portugal in the forum and we both have it.

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I hope more people from southern Portugal also become interested in DNA tests and Haplogroups :rolleyes: That would be nice... I literally don't think I've seen another algarve result online. I do have samples from my extended family I could eventually gather which could help our sample size. May eventually convert some of their data to g25 in the near future as well.

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Originally Posted by dududud

Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/image...a-468736-4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

https://news-cdn.softpedia.com/image...a-468736-4.jpg

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I wouldn't mind looking like that :D

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Originally Posted by dududud

Pure (central) Sardinians have fewer North African phenotypes. They are much more European and Basque-like than the weird "Spanish" phenotypes that would be considered Arab where I live.

EEF doesn't look north african, they looks normal european.

You are completely wrong, and writing in Spanish will not save you.

You must have a lot of extra-European contribution.
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Read again my comment.

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Originally Posted by Teutone

Nas is I1 dude

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Nas is the most funnier J1 member of TA, no one can´t deny this.

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Originally Posted by Gota_type_

Todo el área de La Rioja, norte de Palencia, norte de Burgos, incluso norte de Soria, mitad norte de Aragón, y Navarra, eran antiguamente zonas vasconas (cuando estaban en su máxima expansión). De hecho, hoy en día se encuentra mucha gente del norte de La Rioja con apellidos vascos muy frecuentemente.

lo q me llama la atención del DF27 es ese núcleo aislado en el nordeste de Francia, q no se explica por emigraciones históricas conocidas desde Iberia hacia allá. sin embargo, hay varios estudios que prueban que vinieron celtas desde ese zona y Bélgica hacia Iberia. De hecho, se sabe incluso de nombres de estos pueblos, como los sefes. Así que quien sabe si fue allí el origen del DF27 pq a la inversa no hay explicación de movimiento importante de poblaciones.

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Y tienes toda la razon, porque ese U152 lleva bastante tiempo presente en Iberia al parecer, y lo del Noreste de Francia, mira esto:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ff/af...4bd65f11af.jpg

Hay una muy decente cantidad de DF27 presente en el Noreste de Francia, indicando que la ruta de los Bell Beakers o celtas que vinieron a Iberia, pudieron haber partido desde ese punto y que un puñado se quedaran ahi. Paso algo similar con el Noreste de Alemania y el L21 que se fue a islas britanicas.

Por otro lado, es muy comun que la genetica riojana, las muestras arrojen una cantidad de vasco impresionante, mas que cualquier cantabro.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Estos dos son del poblado celtíbero de La Hoya, en Laguardia (Álava), supuestamente de los Berones, en la edad del hierro ya.

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Iberia_North_IA:I3758,0.125205,0.146236,0.06675,0.013889,0.053241,0.003347,-0.004465,0.002308,0.030474,0.034989,0.001624,0.008393,-0.017691,-0.00812,0.013843,-0.007292,-0.02047,0.00114,-0.00352,-0.002751,0.003494,0.000618,-0.008134,-0.016508,-0.002994
Iberia_North_IA:I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.003268,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221

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I3759 (hombre)I2a1a1a /H1
I3758(mujer) U5b1

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 3.4723% / 0.03472343
53.2 Early_European_Farmer
22.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
18.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
5.2 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.8 Iberomaurusian

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 2.8605% / 0.02860501
54.8 Early_European_Farmer
25.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
19.2 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
0.6 Northeastern_Asia_Neolithic

Mi madre, solo con esas dos referencias::eek:

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.9457% / 0.02945672
78.8 Iberia_North_IA:I3758
21.2 Iberia_North_IA:I3759

Distance to: gixajo_mom_scaled
0.03056614 Iberia_North_IA:I3758
0.04219078 Iberia_North_IA:I3759

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

Nas is the most funnier J1 member of TA, no one can´t deny this.

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What

Nas is I1, no joke.

He did a DNA tesr for a american tv show

prob male slave owner ancestor

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Originally Posted by Teutone

What

Nas is I1, no joke.

He did a DNA tesr for a american tv show

prob male slave owner ancestor

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Sorry man i thought you meant Nassbean, i didn't know who was Nas till i googled him.