Hunter-Farmer-Herder in Euro pop unscaled G25 post your result

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Originally Posted by Defcon2

A mi me da muy poco HG, parezco italiano, mis coordenadas sin escala son muy italianas.

Target: Juan
Distance: 3.1974% / 0.03197379
56.8 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_UKR
6.2 MAR_Taforalt
4.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Con escala:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.9752% / 0.04975230
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
29.6 Yamnaya_UKR
11.0 HUN_Koros_N_HG
6.2 MAR_Taforalt

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Los resultados con Mar_Taforalt, Natufian y Mongoloide:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 2.6201% / 0.02620051
48.4 TUR_Barcin_N
35.2 Yamnaya_UKR
12.6 HUN_Koros_N_HG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.8 Levant_Natufian
0.4 MNG_North_N

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.4512% / 0.02451246
55.4 TUR_Barcin_N
33.6 Yamnaya_UKR
8.0 HUN_Koros_N_HG
2.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.2 MNG_North_N

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 3.3298% / 0.03329800
47.0 TUR_Barcin_N
37.6 Yamnaya_UKR
12.0 HUN_Koros_N_HG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.6 Levant_Natufian
0.2 MNG_North_N

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.7297% / 0.18729704 | ADC: 1x
67.4 Yamnaya_UKR
22.8 TUR_Barcin_N
9.8 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.4948% / 0.18494765 | ADC: 0.5x
51.4 Yamnaya_UKR
27.2 TUR_Barcin_N
21.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.4800% / 0.18479987 | ADC: 0.25x
47.4 Yamnaya_UKR
28.4 TUR_Barcin_N
24.2 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Target: VangosH
Distance: 3.1466% / 0.03146558
57.4 TUR_Barcin_N
41.2 Yamnaya_UKR
1.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

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Originally Posted by Rædwald

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.7297% / 0.18729704 | ADC: 1x
67.4 Yamnaya_UKR
22.8 TUR_Barcin_N
9.8 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.4948% / 0.18494765 | ADC: 0.5x
51.4 Yamnaya_UKR
27.2 TUR_Barcin_N
21.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

Target: Rædwald
Distance: 18.4800% / 0.18479987 | ADC: 0.25x
47.4 Yamnaya_UKR
28.4 TUR_Barcin_N
24.2 HUN_Koros_N_HG

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The coordinates in the OP are unscaled, you're getting a high distance because you've used your scaled coordinates.

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Originally Posted by Creoda

The coordinates in the OP are unscaled, you're getting a high distance because you've used your scaled coordinates.

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Thanks Creoda, the 'extreme' result, already surprised me!

Some North European averages:

https://www.mupload.nl/img/z7mqu5jv.06.48.png

Target: RF
Distance: 2.5653% / 0.02565308
52.8 Yamnaya_UKR
39.8 TUR_Barcin_N
7.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

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Originally Posted by yowasgeht

Target: RF
Distance: 2.5653% / 0.02565308
52.8 Yamnaya_UKR
39.8 TUR_Barcin_N
7.4 HUN_Koros_N_HG

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Ah nice a mennonite, the 'proband' of my family belonged to the mennonites, to the Ucko Wallist:
https://gameo.org/index.php?title=Uckowallists

Based on this model a analysis of N(W) Europe.

I guess the crucial point is that throughout NW Europe we see two main types of genetic profiles.

I based this on the hunter vs. farmer vs herder model of Davidski (G25 unscaled).

'West' profile is highly Herder/Steppe about 58-59% in this model, Hunter is about 8% and the Farmer is 32-33%.

'East' profile highly Hunter about 12%, Farmer about 32-33% and the Herder is max 57%.


In fact we stand in this respect on the shoulders of our LNBA ancestors, in that periode fused 'highly' Steppe Bell Beakers (rooted in Single Grave Culture) in Denmark, Northern Germany and North Dutch and Battle Axe in Sweden with neolithic funnel beaker groups in Scandinavia and the Northern Plain and even with some old HG groups.

The neolithic/ funnel beaker and annex groups have different levels of hunter vs farmer:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/grugfo44w9.07.23.png

The Bell Beakers and Battle Axe people have about 2/3 herder/steppe:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/e1jany.10.01.png

After the grand mix in LNBA, we see that England BA and IA in this respect doen't differ much form the Anglo-Saxons!
https://www.mupload.nl/img/8yk6bk0.18.16.png


IMO the reason the Anglo-Saxon are typical of the high Steppe 'West' profile as the Danes or Irish:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/a22ymr.19.52.png

But were there are high HG influences like the TRB in Northern Germany/ North Dutch or otherwise HG groups (Sweden/ Poland) we see the 'East' profile:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/1ipj6epq7f.22.13.png

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Originally Posted by Folcwalding

Based on this model a analysis of N(W) Europe.

I guess the crucial point is that throughout NW Europe we see two main types of genetic profiles.

I based this on the hunter vs. farmer vs herder model of Davidski (G25 unscaled).

'West' profile is highly Herder/Steppe about 58-59% in this model, Hunter is about 8% and the Farmer is 32-33%.

'East' profile highly Hunter about 12%, Farmer about 32-33% and the Herder is max 57%.


In fact we stand in this respect on the shoulders of our LNBA ancestors, in that periode fused 'highly' Steppe Bell Beakers (rooted in Single Grave Culture) in Denmark, Northern Germany and North Dutch and Battle Axe in Sweden with neolithic funnel beaker groups in Scandinavia and the Northern Plain and even with some old HG groups.

The neolithic/ funnel beaker and annex groups have different levels of hunter vs farmer:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/grugfo44w9.07.23.png

The Bell Beakers and Battle Axe people have about 2/3 herder/steppe:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/e1jany.10.01.png

After the grand mix in LNBA, we see that England BA and IA in this respect doen't differ much form the Anglo-Saxons!
https://www.mupload.nl/img/8yk6bk0.18.16.png


IMO the reason the Anglo-Saxon are typical of the high Steppe 'West' profile as the Danes or Irish:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/a22ymr.19.52.png

But were there are high HG influences like the TRB in Northern Germany/ North Dutch or otherwise HG groups (Sweden/ Poland) we see the 'East' profile:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/1ipj6epq7f.22.13.png

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Not really, that doesn't explain why Danes and Norwegians score low HG.
Swedes score high HG cause of recent Finnish admixture. This run is kinda garbage tbh for anyone with Eastern or Southern European ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Aren

Not really, that doesn't explain why Danes and Norwegians score low HG.
Swedes score high HG cause of recent Finnish admixture. This run is kinda garbage tbh for anyone with Eastern or Southern European ancestry.

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Don't think that explains it for Sweden, PWC groups are the more likely candidate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandi...unter-Gatherer