Is the person or group criticising a country just as revealing as the country being criticised?

OK, let me break it down to you: I would happily trade $1,000-2,000 in GDP per capita per annum if that meant more people able to attend school, university and to see the doctor for free. So, even if DR does overtake CR in terms of GDP per capita, CR would still outperform it in many other important facets (and I think its stats are, for obvious reasons, much more trustworthy than Cuba's too). Also, please explain why Dominicans migrate at about the same rate as Cubans do and much more than Ticos do?

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Originally Posted by axel.aleman

Tu en serio confías en las estadísticas de estados comunistas porfavor.
Costa Rica y Uruguay son estados que se creen europeos y por eso pagan impuestos europeos para sostener el welfare. Prefiero el modelo dominicano o panameño que no tienen welfare y pagan impuestos más bajos

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Exactly my thought. Many of these Latam countries want to apply the European model before they reach considerable economic growth, and that's why they've been stagnant for years. They don't realize that a lot of the Euro and practically all of the developed east Asian countries went through a period of very aggressive (capitalistic) economic growth before they started implementing some of their welfare systems. Un amigo una vez menciono una buena metafora. Los paises latino se creen ricos antes de ser ricos y por eso mal gastan sus ingresos.

The Panamanian and Dominican growth models are the way to go. Those things that lefties generally consider bad are what actually help our growth.

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Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen

OK, let me break it down to you: I would happily trade $1,000-2,000 in GDP per capita per annum if that meant more people able to attend school, university and to see the doctor for free. So, even if DR does overtake CR in terms of GDP per capita, CR would still outperform it in many other important facets (and I think its stats are, for obvious reasons, much more trustworthy than Cuba's too). Also, please explain why Dominicans migrate at about the same rate as Cubans do and much more than Ticos do?

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Compara a un dominicano que gane 1000 dólares al mes y luego ve a comparar un tico con ese mismo sueldo. Y dime a quien le rinde mejor la plata

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Originally Posted by Cranberryjuice

Exactly my thought. Many of these Latam countries want to apply the European model before they reach considerable economic growth, and that's why they've been stagnant for years. They don't realize that a lot of the Euro and practically all of the developed east Asian countries went through a period of very aggressive (capitalistic) economic growth before they started implementing some of their welfare systems. Un amigo una vez menciono una buena metafora. Los paises latino se creen ricos antes de ser ricos y por eso mal gastan sus ingresos.

The Panamanian and Dominican growth models are the way to go. Those things that lefties generally consider bad are what actually help our growth.

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De hecho Costa Rica tiene un peor ratio de deuda/renta per capita que Panamá aún cuando el gobierno panameño se ha endeudado mucho por la pandemia

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Originally Posted by axel.aleman

Compara a un dominicano que gane 1000 dólares al mes y luego ve a comparar un tico con ese mismo sueldo. Y dime a quien le rinde mejor la plata

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El tico, aunque pagaria mas impuestos, a la vez no tendria que preocuparse tanto en pagar para la escuela de sus hijos o para irse al medico. Entonces, depende de lo que quieres medir.

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El tico, aunque pagaria mas impuestos, a la vez no tendria que preocuparse tanto en pagar para la escuela de sus hijos o para irse al medico. Entonces, depende de lo que quieres medir.

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Bueno comprando cosas más caras y con mayor descuento de impuestos antes de tocar un solo centavo de su salario si como no campeón.

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Originally Posted by Cranberryjuice

Exactly my thought. Many of these Latam countries want to apply the European model before they reach considerable economic growth, and that's why they've been stagnant for years. They don't realize that a lot of the Euro and practically all of the developed east Asian countries went through a period of very aggressive (capitalistic) economic growth before they started implementing some of their welfare systems. Un amigo una vez menciono una buena metafora. Los paises latino se creen ricos antes de ser ricos y por eso mal gastan sus ingresos.

The Panamanian and Dominican growth models are the way to go. Those things that lefties generally consider bad are what actually help our growth.

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In many ways it is the opposite. Most developed countries were very protectionist when it came to developing their industries, and often full of SOEs, and they only liberalised to any degree once they reached a certain level. A book I recommend that explains this much better than I could is Cambridge-based South Korean economist Ha Joon Chang's Bad Samaritans. In particular, he also emphasises that the East Asian countries invested a lot in universal education as part of their development drive.

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Bueno comprando cosas más caras y con mayor descuento de impuestos antes de tocar un solo centavo de su salario si como no campeón.

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The Dominican and Costa Rican would have to spend more on different things. But like I said: why do Dominicans migrate far more than Costa Ricans do?

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The Dominican and Costa Rican would have to spend more on different things. But like I said: why do Dominicans migrate far more than Costa Ricans do?

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There's already a huge Dominican diaspora that started back in the 60's, which still does the chain migration since the host countries facilitate that. There's also still a mindset among many Dominicans that they will be better off if they migrate to another country. Costa Rica never went through that process.

That being said, that's slowly changing, and it's even common to see many Dominican returning from the diaspora :)

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There's already a huge Dominican diaspora that started back in the 60's, which still does the chain migration since the host countries facilitate that. There's also still a mindset among many Dominicans that they will be better off if they migrate to another country. Costa Rica never went through that process.

That being said, that's slowly changing, and it's even common to see many Dominican returning from the diaspora :)

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Yes, but WHY has that been the case? It certainly isn't due to war or dictatorship in the Guatemalan, Salvadoran, Peruvian or Colombian sense. No: it is most likely because the poverty in DR is felt to be much more unbearable than the poverty in CR.