Aryan R1a = Turkic ?

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Originally Posted by Varhun

Why do you even talk with people who think that ancient Turkic peoples belonged to a non-existent language group called Indo-European (aka. European supremacist ideology).

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Are you mentally ill? Be honest to yourself your ancestors were neither Turks or Indo-Europeans they were just bitches and prostitutes of them. Your people are descendants of Neolithic Farmer rich in African-like lineages and DNA so you are more related to some Africans than to Aryans or Dschingis Khan.

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Originally Posted by Arhat

Are you mentally ill? Be honest to yourself your ancestors were neither Turks or Indo-Europeans they were just bitches and prostitutes of them. Your people are descendants of Neolithic Farmer rich in African-like lineages and DNA so you are more related to some Africans than to Aryans or Dschingis Khan.

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The 'arrival' of Indo-European people in Europe and Asia must be seen as one of the major episodes of the 'arrival' of Homo sapiens in Europe and Asia from Africa, and not as an event of recent prehistory. Do you understand?

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Originally Posted by Varhun

The 'arrival' of Indo-European people in Europe and Asia must be seen as one of the major episodes of the 'arrival' of Homo sapiens in Europe and Asia from Africa, and not as an event of recent prehistory. Do you understand?

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Your ancestors arrived from Africa some thousand years ago as Basal Eurasian Farmer people dont pretend you are a hun.

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Originally Posted by Arhat

Your ancestors arrived from Africa some thousand years ago as Basal Eurasian Farmer people dont pretend you are a hun.

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hello dexter_morgan, how are you?
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/art.../ancient.shtml
DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site in Mongolia has revealed new information about the Xiongnu, a nomadic tribe that once reigned in Central Asia. Researchers in France studied DNA from more than 62 skeletons to reconstruct the history and social organization of a long-forgotten culture.


Ancient grave in the Egyin Gol necropolis.
Courtesy E. Crubezy, Université Paul Sabatier, Toulouse, France
The researchers found that interbreeding between Europeans and Asians occurred much earlier than previously thought. They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks, supporting the idea that some of the Turkish people originated in Mongolia

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Originally Posted by gültekin

hello dexter_morgan, how are you?

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dexter_morgan olduğunu da nerden biliyon? emin misin?

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Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian

Why don't R1b people have Mongoloid traits then? Too much mixing with haplogroup E(I don't say I because R1a also mixed with them)? Well, mtDNA haplogroups associated with y haplogroup E, I should say.

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Originally Posted by Sundqvist

Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen’s Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5023095/

Members of the Mongol imperial family (designated the Golden family) are buried in a secret necropolis; therefore, none of their burial grounds have been found. In 2004, we first discovered 5 graves belonging to the Golden family in Tavan Tolgoi, Eastern Mongolia. To define the genealogy of the 5 bodies and the kinship among them, SNP and/or STR profiles of mitochondria, autosomes, and Y chromosomes were analyzed. Four of the 5 bodies were determined to carry the mitochondrial DNA haplogroup D4, while the fifth carried haplogroup CZ, indicating that this individual had no kinship with the others. Meanwhile, Y-SNP and Y-STR profiles indicate that the males examined belonged to the R1b-M343 haplogroup

a pic of those noble people from German version of Wikipedia - do you see that redish-white skin tone?:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ith_mother.jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolen

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Originally Posted by Rethel

http://i59.tinypic.com/2nbvsc3.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sundqvist

https://youtu.be/EY39fkmqKBM

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and finally, how looks Arjen Robben's top of head for example?

https://78.media.tumblr.com/8932a922...sxre9s_540.png
https://kundalinirising88.tumblr.com...ree-main-races

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Originally Posted by Artek

Of course they predate Turks. Skeletons with R1a and mongoloid mtdna (like C) were found before the period that we can talk about turkic language/culture.

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Damgaard 2018 and Narasimhan 2018 are proving the opposite.

I must commend Proto-Shaman's insightful analysis of Klyosov's haplotype data, which compellingly demonstrates the phylogenetic proximity between the Aryan R1a basal form (13-25-15-10-12-12-10-13-11-31; 15-14-20-12-16-11-23) and those predominant in Bashkir and Kyrgyz Turkic populations under R1a-L342.2. The estimated common ancestor at ~5000 ybp aligns precisely with the diversification of R1a subclades in the Pontic-Caspian steppe, predating Indo-Aryan migrations by millennia.

Critics invoking founder effects or admixture overlook this temporal congruence and haplotype fidelity. Ancient DNA from Andronovo and Sintashta cultures further corroborates R1a-Z93's eastward trajectory, intersecting proto-Turkic substrates. Such evidence substantiates a shared urheimat, challenging Eurocentric Indo-European models and affirming Turkic-Aryan genetic continuum.