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Bakha's father is surely half Central Asian Irani/Persian. He is very low in Baltic, ca. 6-7% only. I don't know what exactly he is mixed with but he scores too little Baltic and too much East Med for a proper Uzbek/Russian mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
More importantly: Too low mong. Uzbeks are always around 3/10 to 1/3 mongoloid. If he was part uzbek, he should been 14-17% mong. Instead he's only 9% mong. I guess youre rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
He is ca. 11% mongoloid and like 3-4% of that might come from his Russian side which is more Finno-Ugric than average. So his father would be around 14-16%.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
Uzbeks can be easily 40% mongoloid, the ones in Fergana, Tashkent, Andijan at least.
I know....never seen any uzbek being below 26% though....Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 32.26
2 Caucasian 22.36
3 NE-Euro 16.64
4 S-Indian 12.59
5 SW-Asian 5.25
6 Siberian 4.14
7 American 2.05
8 E-African 1.5
9 NE-Asian 1.49
10 Mediterranean 1.47
11 Beringian 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 tajik (yunusbayev) 8.51
2 pashtun (harappa) 8.96
3 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.72
4 pathan (hgdp) 15.56
5 kalash (hgdp) 15.83
6 sindhi (harappa) 18.47
7 burusho (hgdp) 18.53
8 haryana-jatt (harappa) 18.81
9 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 18.84
10 kashmiri (harappa) 19.86
11 bhatia (harappa) 19.94
12 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 20.01
13 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 21.7
14 stalskoe (xing) 22.23
15 iranian (harappa) 22.62
16 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 22.85
17 iranian (behar) 23.09
18 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 23.33
19 romanian-b (behar) 23.42
20 punjabi (harappa) 23.64
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52% tajik (yunusbayev) + 48% pashtun (harappa) @ 5.1
2 74.8% pashtun (harappa) + 25.2% stalskoe (xing) @ 5.21
3 76.2% pashtun (harappa) + 23.8% urkarah (xing) @ 5.27
4 52.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 47.2% stalskoe (xing) @ 5.55
5 79% pashtun (harappa) + 21% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 5.82
6 64% pathan (hgdp) + 36% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 5.86
7 55% sindhi (harappa) + 45% stalskoe (xing) @ 5.87
8 59.8% pathan (hgdp) + 40.2% stalskoe (xing) @ 5.89
9 57% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 43% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 5.89
10 78.7% pashtun (harappa) + 21.3% lezgin (behar) @ 5.92
11 57.3% bhatia (harappa) + 42.7% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 5.92
12 74.6% tajik (yunusbayev) + 25.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 5.95
13 85% pashtun (harappa) + 15% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 5.98
14 85% pashtun (harappa) + 15% romanian-a (behar) @ 6.06
15 81% tajik (yunusbayev) + 19% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 6.12
16 53% bhatia (harappa) + 47% stalskoe (xing) @ 6.14
17 81.8% pashtun (harappa) + 18.2% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 6.17
18 59.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 40.2% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 6.18
19 80.3% pashtun (harappa) + 19.7% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 6.2
20 88.3% pashtun (harappa) + 11.7% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 6.21
Forgot to post this.....guess its some kind of tajik/pashtun or a mix of both....could be either groups...
Rukha himself by the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baloch 35.45
2 Caucasian 23.1
3 S-Indian 15.67
4 NE-Euro 15.56
5 SW-Asian 2.8
6 American 2.68
7 NE-Asian 2.29
8 Siberian 1.24
9 Papuan 0.58
10 W-African 0.46
11 Mediterranean 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 7.02
2 tajik (yunusbayev) 11.42
3 kalash (hgdp) 11.71
4 pathan (hgdp) 12.02
5 sindhi (harappa) 15.17
6 burusho (hgdp) 15.38
7 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 15.39
8 bhatia (harappa) 16.28
9 kashmiri (harappa) 16.52
10 haryana-jatt (harappa) 16.54
11 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 17.2
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 17.92
13 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 18.66
14 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 19.5
15 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 20.48
16 punjabi (harappa) 20.55
17 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 21.18
18 punjabi-arain (xing) 21.37
19 sindhi (hgdp) 21.61
20 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 21.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% bhatia (harappa) + 39.6% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.16
2 67.9% pathan (hgdp) + 32.1% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.43
3 62.8% sindhi (harappa) + 37.2% urkarah (xing) @ 3.45
4 68.5% pathan (hgdp) + 31.5% urkarah (xing) @ 3.55
5 64.6% bhatia (harappa) + 35.4% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.76
6 61.2% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 38.8% lezgin (behar) @ 3.78
7 62.3% sindhi (harappa) + 37.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.79
8 59.7% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 40.3% urkarah (xing) @ 3.87
9 66.3% bhatia (harappa) + 33.7% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.99
10 73.3% pathan (hgdp) + 26.7% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 4.06
11 70% pathan (hgdp) + 30% lezgin (behar) @ 4.11
12 61.2% bhatia (harappa) + 38.8% urkarah (xing) @ 4.11
13 62.6% burusho (hgdp) + 37.4% urkarah (xing) @ 4.12
14 54.2% punjabi-arain (xing) + 45.8% urkarah (xing) @ 4.12
15 71.9% pathan (hgdp) + 28.1% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 4.18
16 81.6% pashtun (harappa) + 18.4% urkarah (xing) @ 4.22
17 62.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 37.3% urkarah (xing) @ 4.42
18 64.5% sindhi (harappa) + 35.5% lezgin (behar) @ 4.45
19 59.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 40.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 4.48
20 69.4% bhatia (harappa) + 30.6% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 4.5
He got almost no Mediterranean.
Me
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.32
2 Caucasian 26.21
3 Mediterranean 19.99
4 Baloch 10.17
5 SW-Asian 6.86
6 Siberian 4.68
7 Beringian 0.88
8 S-Indian 0.58
9 E-African 0.28
10 Pygmy 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 8.24
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 8.41
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 14.42
4 tuscan (hgdp) 14.61
5 tuscan (hapmap) 14.99
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 15.34
7 italian (hgdp) 17.83
8 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 18.12
9 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.49
10 hungarian (behar) 21.1
11 slovenian (xing) 22.42
12 nogai (yunusbayev) 24.15
13 french (hgdp) 24.81
14 sephardic-jew (behar) 24.9
15 romanian-b (behar) 25.34
16 stalskoe (xing) 25.61
17 morocco-jew (behar) 25.83
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 26.73
19 spaniard (behar) 27.07
20 spaniard (1000genomes) 28.14
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 39.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.04
2 52% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 48% hungarian (behar) @ 3.1
3 61.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 38.9% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 3.27
4 50.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 49.1% n-european (xing) @ 3.65
5 60.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 39.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.67
6 53.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 46.4% slovenian (xing) @ 3.68
7 79.7% romanian-a (behar) + 20.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.69
8 50.2% turk (behar) + 49.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.8
9 57.4% hungarian (behar) + 42.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.87
10 63.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 36.4% orcadian (hgdp) @ 3.95
11 62% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 38% british (1000genomes) @ 3.97
12 51.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 48.1% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.08
13 51.2% turk (behar) + 48.8% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 4.16
14 79.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.1% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.22
15 83% romanian-a (behar) + 17% iranian (behar) @ 4.23
16 52.3% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 47.7% n-european (xing) @ 4.24
17 58.9% hungarian (behar) + 41.1% turkish (harappa) @ 4.33
18 82.6% romanian-a (behar) + 17.4% kurd (harappa) @ 4.35
19 58.1% hungarian (behar) + 41.9% turk (behar) @ 4.35
20 80.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 4.36
Grandfather
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 32.41
2 Caucasian 26.35
3 Mediterranean 20.4
4 Baloch 8.8
5 SW-Asian 4.53
6 SE-Asian 2.39
7 Siberian 2.3
8 S-Indian 1.23
9 Beringian 1.15
10 W-African 0.26
11 Papuan 0.1
12 NE-Asian 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 5.7
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 6.05
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 14.65
4 tuscan (hgdp) 14.76
5 tuscan (hapmap) 15.07
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.89
7 italian (hgdp) 17.16
8 hungarian (behar) 18.94
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 20
10 slovenian (xing) 20.2
11 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 21.72
12 french (hgdp) 23.34
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 25.7
14 romanian-b (behar) 26.17
15 spaniard (behar) 26.42
16 stalskoe (xing) 26.69
17 sephardic-jew (behar) 26.94
18 ukranian (yunusbayev) 27.13
19 n-european (xing) 27.37
20 spaniard (1000genomes) 27.56
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% romanian-a (behar) + 13.8% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.72
2 85.7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 14.3% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.96
3 84.7% romanian-a (behar) + 15.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.1
4 88.3% romanian-a (behar) + 11.7% iranian (harappa) @ 3.17
5 87% romanian-a (behar) + 13% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.18
6 88.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 11.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.18
7 90.1% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 9.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.24
8 90.3% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 9.7% burusho (hgdp) @ 3.24
9 61.7% hungarian (behar) + 38.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.25
10 91.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 8.6% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.26
11 89.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 10.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.26
12 91.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 8.1% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.31
13 91.5% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 8.5% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.33
14 88.9% romanian-a (behar) + 11.1% iranian (behar) @ 3.34
15 53.5% hungarian (behar) + 46.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 3.34
16 88.6% romanian-a (behar) + 11.4% kurd (harappa) @ 3.35
17 90.8% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 9.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.36
18 84.7% romanian-a (behar) + 15.3% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.36
19 90.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 9.4% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.39
20 87.8% romanian-a (behar) + 12.2% azeri (harappa) @ 3.4
Mother
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 31.4
2 Caucasian 25.76
3 Mediterranean 20.04
4 Baloch 9.9
5 SW-Asian 5.71
6 Siberian 3.07
7 SE-Asian 1.86
8 Beringian 0.77
9 NE-Asian 0.62
10 S-Indian 0.61
11 E-African 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 6.86
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 7.3
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 14.63
4 tuscan (hgdp) 14.77
5 tuscan (hapmap) 15.11
6 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.26
7 italian (hgdp) 17.45
8 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 19.2
9 hungarian (behar) 19.72
10 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 20.7
11 slovenian (xing) 21.03
12 french (hgdp) 23.77
13 nogai (yunusbayev) 24.83
14 romanian-b (behar) 25.76
15 stalskoe (xing) 26.01
16 sephardic-jew (behar) 26.08
17 spaniard (behar) 26.56
18 morocco-jew (behar) 26.98
19 spaniard (1000genomes) 27.67
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 27.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% hungarian (behar) + 48.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.47
2 82.4% romanian-a (behar) + 17.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.47
3 59.9% hungarian (behar) + 40.1% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.81
4 57.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 42.4% n-european (xing) @ 2.81
5 51.2% n-european (xing) + 48.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 2.87
6 51.8% n-european (xing) + 48.2% turk (behar) @ 2.93
7 82.1% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 17.9% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.08
8 50.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 49.6% slovenian (xing) @ 3.12
9 50.2% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 49.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.15
10 58.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 41.4% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 3.17
11 83.3% romanian-a (behar) + 16.7% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.19
12 60.6% hungarian (behar) + 39.4% turk (behar) @ 3.34
13 89.1% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 10.9% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.38
14 89.6% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 10.4% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.38
15 61.4% hungarian (behar) + 38.6% turkish (harappa) @ 3.4
16 58.6% hungarian (behar) + 41.4% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.41
17 89.2% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 10.8% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.41
18 85.8% romanian-a (behar) + 14.2% iranian (behar) @ 3.46
19 50.8% utahn-white (hapmap) + 49.2% turk (behar) @ 3.49
20 50.2% utahn-white (hapmap) + 49.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.5
Father
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.69
2 Caucasian 26.99
3 Mediterranean 18.59
4 Baloch 9.44
5 SW-Asian 6.86
6 Siberian 4.45
7 NE-Asian 1.36
8 Beringian 0.5
9 Papuan 0.49
10 S-Indian 0.3
11 San 0.11
12 E-African 0.09
13 Pygmy 0.07
14 W-African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 8.23
2 romanian-a (behar) 8.36
3 tuscan (1000genomes) 15.3
4 ashkenazi (harappa) 15.42
5 tuscan (hgdp) 15.52
6 tuscan (hapmap) 15.96
7 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 18.28
8 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 18.88
9 italian (hgdp) 19.02
10 hungarian (behar) 21.38
11 slovenian (xing) 22.57
12 nogai (yunusbayev) 22.95
13 stalskoe (xing) 24.94
14 sephardic-jew (behar) 25.14
15 romanian-b (behar) 25.55
16 french (hgdp) 25.87
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 26.13
18 morocco-jew (behar) 26.24
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 27.7
20 spaniard (behar) 28.42
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 46.9% hungarian (behar) @ 1.72
2 54.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 45.5% slovenian (xing) @ 1.93
3 61.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 38.6% n-european (xing) @ 3.02
4 56.5% hungarian (behar) + 43.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.15
5 78.8% romanian-a (behar) + 21.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.2
6 79.1% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 20.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.23
7 62.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 37.6% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 3.46
8 57.2% hungarian (behar) + 42.8% turk (behar) @ 3.5
9 55.2% slovenian (xing) + 44.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) @ 3.5
10 55.1% hungarian (behar) + 44.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) @ 3.72
11 75.2% romanian-a (behar) + 24.8% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.79
12 60.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 39.1% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.82
13 80.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 19.6% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.85
14 71.4% romanian-a (behar) + 28.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 3.9
15 81.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 18.1% uzbek (behar) @ 3.97
16 58.2% hungarian (behar) + 41.8% turkish (harappa) @ 3.98
17 51.2% turk (behar) + 48.8% n-european (xing) @ 3.99
18 55.9% slovenian (xing) + 44.1% turk (behar) @ 3.99
19 51.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 48.1% n-european (xing) @ 4.09
20 62.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 37.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 4.11
What do you get on the JTest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Markos
On DnaLand using Ftdna data i score only 11% Mid-turkic which includes tajikis and uzbekis. Other are 28%Balkan, southcentral asian, south asian, 5% mongoloid. And i score 0% central indoeuropean which includes iranians/persians and other west asians.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
Reveals my true identityQuote:
Originally Posted by Pine
# Population Percent
1 EAST_MED 25.4
2 WEST_MED 17.24
3 WEST_ASIAN 13.15
4 ATLANTIC 9.08
5 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 9.03
6 SOUTH_BALTIC 8.74
7 ASHKENAZI 7.07
8 EAST_EURO 4.66
9 MIDDLE_EASTERN 4.07
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.38
11 EAST_AFRICAN 0.17
12 SIBERIAN 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 GR 6.29
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 7.59
3 Tuscan 11.97
4 North_Italian 15.12
5 RO 15.28
6 Serbian 17.95
7 TR 18.76
8 PT 22.67
9 AJ 22.77
10 HU 23.79
11 Armenian 23.96
12 AT 24.4
13 ES 24.48
14 Assyrian 24.59
15 Kurdish 25.5
16 FR 25.84
17 IR 25.91
18 Mandean 26.88
19 IQ 26.99
20 Samaritan 28.77
Aside from shared descent from 5000 years ago, there is some shared descent from Aegean migrations into the Levant and later MENA migrations into Crete. Also, I recall you being from Crete. I also wouldn't be shocked if all Cretans had some Jewish descent today:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markos
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/creteQuote:
Under the Byzantine emperor Theodosius II (408–50) the Jews of Crete, among others, were severely oppressed. Possibly in consequence of this in 440 they placed their faith in a pseudo-messiah, who claimed to be Moses sent from heaven to lead the Jews of Crete dry shod through the sea back to the Promised Land. Of those who did not drown after jumping from the cliff, most converted to Christianity.
Voskos is the Greek TA user from Crete, I am from Samos, which is an eastern island 1 mile off the coast of Western Turkey, south of Izmir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samos
But funnily enough, I read that Samos was one of the main settlements of Romaniote Jews. Could be coincidental but there's no way to know now I would think.
I doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pine
Also Jews have always been a relativly small group in terms of numbers in order to have such a huge genetic impact or influence on others
I doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pine
Also Jews have always been a relativly small group in terms of numbers in order to have such a huge genetic impact or influence on others
I doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pine
Also Jews have always been a relativly small group in terms of numbers in order to have such a huge genetic impact or influence on others
That pine mizrahim/sefardim (whatever he is) is strange guy, everyone is jew according to him, including me, russian/uzbeki, and now cretans are of jewish descent...Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDorian
Hahaha exactly :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
With 23andme:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent 1 NE-Euro 32.44 2 Caucasian 19.15 3 Mediterranean 15.48 4 Baloch 12.53 5 S-Indian 5.48 6 Siberian 4.88 7 NE-Asian 2.68 8 SW-Asian 2.62 9 E-African 1.33 10 American 1.27 11 Beringian 1.26 12 San 0.72 13 SE-Asian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 romanian-a (behar) 13.36 2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 14.84 3 hungarian (behar) 19.48 4 slovenian (xing) 20.48 5 tuscan (hgdp) 22.35 6 tuscan (1000genomes) 22.35 7 tuscan (hapmap) 22.57 8 italian (hgdp) 23.21 9 ashkenazi (harappa) 23.77 10 romanian-b (behar) 24.25 11 french (hgdp) 24.62 12 nogai (yunusbayev) 24.73 13 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 24.77 14 chuvash (behar) 25.03 15 ukranian (yunusbayev) 25.86 16 tajik (yunusbayev) 26 17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 26.15 18 n-european (xing) 26.58 19 stalskoe (xing) 27.21 20 utahn-white (1000genomes) 27.25
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 58.5% slovenian (xing) + 41.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.72 2 59.7% hungarian (behar) + 40.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.73 3 51.8% n-european (xing) + 48.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 5.76 4 77.1% romanian-a (behar) + 22.9% burusho (hgdp) @ 6.25 5 78.3% romanian-a (behar) + 21.7% nepalese-a (xing) @ 6.32 6 75.1% romanian-a (behar) + 24.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 6.47 7 57.8% hungarian (behar) + 42.2% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 6.52 8 50.7% utahn-white (hapmap) + 49.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.54 9 56.5% slovenian (xing) + 43.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 6.7 10 55.6% nogai (yunusbayev) + 44.4% orcadian (hgdp) @ 6.77 11 51.9% nogai (yunusbayev) + 48.1% n-european (xing) @ 6.78 12 77.5% romanian-a (behar) + 22.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 6.8 13 52.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) + 47.5% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.84 14 52.6% nogai (yunusbayev) + 47.4% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 6.85 15 54.1% nogai (yunusbayev) + 45.9% british (1000genomes) @ 6.87 16 76.4% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 23.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 6.93 17 64.3% hungarian (behar) + 35.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 6.97 18 68.7% romanian-a (behar) + 31.3% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 6.99 19 51.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 48.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 7.04 20 72.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 27.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 7.07
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
9% MONGOLOID WITHOUT AMERICAN (10,5 WITH)
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
1 chuvash_behar + north-ossetian_yunusbayev + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 2.833864
2 chuvash_behar + north-ossetian_yunusbayev + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 2.890739
3 chuvash_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + orcadian_hgdp + romanian-b_behar @ 3.003360
4 nogai_yunusbayev + pashtun_harappa + russian_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.019224
5 balkar_yunusbayev + chuvash_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.033679
6 chuvash_behar + italian_hgdp + north-ossetian_harappa + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.035528
7 balkar_yunusbayev + chuvash_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 3.040097
8 british_1000genomes + chuvash_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + romanian-b_behar @ 3.080884
9 armenian_behar + chuvash_behar + french_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.091813
10 adygei_hgdp + chuvash_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_1000genomes @ 3.102069
11 nogai_yunusbayev + pashtun_harappa + russian_behar + spaniard_behar @ 3.123839
12 chuvash_behar + italian_hgdp + kumyk_yunusbayev + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.132989
13 chuvash_behar + orcadian_hgdp + romanian-b_behar + turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 3.146404
14 adygei_hgdp + chuvash_behar + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 3.164726
15 armenian_yunusbayev + chuvash_behar + french_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 3.222304
16 chuvash_behar + italian_hgdp + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + stalskoe_xing @ 3.290548
17 chuvash_behar + kumyk_yunusbayev + singapore-indian-d_sgvp + spaniard_behar @ 3.294392
18 chuvash_behar + pashtun_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_hapmap @ 3.341329
19 chuvash_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + romanian-b_behar + utahn-white_1000genomes @ 3.359083
20 chuvash_behar + pashtun_harappa + serbian_harappa + tuscan_hgdp @ 3.367491
You'll always be a Jew to me, habibi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
well guessing based on dna test and calculators is pure speculation; i can show you a test where it shows that my father is 50 mongoloid:Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
https://i.ibb.co/0Fvy8SB/7-B27259-E-...84-D72-E61.png
I am 16.2 Yakut, 7% Chinese and 3,2% ambiguous also must be mongoloid that makes up for around 25% Mongoloid. So my father is 50%. That even makes him a Kyrgyz, not Uzbeki.
Every test i do gives me so different results (see also my DnaLand on previous page) that it would have been better not to even start all this dna testing. Just live calm identifying as half uzbeki and dont care...
what is that in your signature?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
So youre saying Gedmatch is unaccurate compared to whatever you showed me? who even made that test?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
Who ever suggested it was huge?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDorian
Geneplaza, some south asian Dilawer Han made it, i suppose. I am not sure. You think its unaccurate? Anyways these results are most suited into russian/uzbeki fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
Im not sure....i mean, dilawer khan can be wrong about history maybe and stuff( i seen that guy and his posts). But he seems he knows what he's doing. I dont think you maybe should had got this high mong. but i remember he had some explanation about the results from his calcs, like the one with african one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
Maybe its good then....
What you think about his k29??Quote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
I have no idea. Im not a geneticist like he is. Better to ask someone like razib khan or Davidski. Dont think people here or people not working much with calcs and deeper genetics analyses will give you good answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
ok; i am looking forward to order test from Davidski anyways when i will have some cashQuote:
Originally Posted by hussein khan
I'll stop trolling you for a second. Getting G25 coordinates on their own won't help you. You barely know what you're doing when you're looking at Gedmatch. What's clear about your results is that they deviate sufficiently from your known ancestry, though we need to keep random inheritance in mind. Your West Asian (as opposed to East Med) might simply be explained by your "Bukharian Uzbek" background, if that area is sufficiently more Persian than the rest of Uzbekistan. However, your East Med seems oddly high from my recollection. What was it in Eurogenes K13? And please post your K36 again. While it's worthwhile noting that one MENA component can spill over into another in Gedmatch, this does suggest an even higher amount of it for your dad. Now, this may be explained a number of ways. It could be from a more recent Persian/Turkish/Tajik/etc arrival who was more EastMed-shifted. It could be from an Arab. After all, your father is presumably Muslim and every Muslim country has someone claiming descent from Muhammad or a close relative of his. Perhaps some Arabs settled in Bukhara. Now, the two groups that have the relevant proportions of East Med and West Asian that I know of are Assyrians and Mizrachim. The reason to think against such an introgression is because the former is Christian and the latter is Jewish - this would've required a change of religion. And while Mizrachim certainly lived in Bukhara, I don't recall of an Assyrian presence there. None of these explanations are mutually exclusive, and you need to keep them all in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
At the very least, you'll need Davidski to specifically help you with this puzzle, as you won't know wtf you're doing with G25; I barely do. However, one thing you should do, if for some reason you haven't done it already, is CHECK YOUR COUSIN MATCHES. And do it carefully. Whenever they're not East Slavic or typically Uzbek, see if you can triangulate them. Note the size of segment, and divide by the double of the total amount of centimorgans that the given site allots for all of your DNA (normally 3.5k). So, if you triangulate a 40cm segment, the % of that ancestry will be estimated as 40/7000.
Best of luck.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pine
West_Med 8.12 Pct West_Asian 17.25 Pct East_Med 12.20
West_Med 9.90 Pct West_Asian 16.55 Pct East_Med 11
Maybe your father was closer to TurkmensQuote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
Eurogenes average
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 32.73
2 East_Med 19.76
3 South_Asian 11.21
4 Siberian 10.08
5 North_Atlantic 7.21
6 East_Asian 6.87
7 Baltic 5.91
8 West_Med 2.52
9 Amerindian 1.88
10 Red_Sea 1.31
11 Oceanian 0.32
12 Sub-Saharan 0.11
13 Northeast_African 0.08
After all, Bukhara province is closer to Turkmenistan than Tajikistan. Southwestern Uzbeks are Oghuz Turkic speakers as far as I'm concerned.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...kistan.svg.png
maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
west med is from my northern/volga russian side? Around 18% for my mother?
No way. It's on average like 8-9% in ethnic Russians. WM is actually low in Iranians and Kurds as well, like 5-7% or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
is there a west med in finno ugric admixt russians? If my mother had 10% and my father around 3% like turkmens then i would get around 6% - more or less the same (8 and 9.90%%)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Yes, there is but it's usually lower than in Western Russians. My mother is 5% for example (she is quite "Finnic").Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha
Anyway, it's all kind of pointless to read into, 'cause these components are sometimes assigned quite randomly. Otherwise explain to me why I got 4% East Med on K13 when my parents are like 1% and 2% only. Also I got 45% Baltic and my parents are 50% and 48% respectively. These damn calcs certainly lack mathematic precision to say the least.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 53.1% Ukrainian + 46.9% Turkmen @ 2.93 2 54.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 45.4% Turkmen @ 3.34 3 51.3% Turkmen + 48.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.64 4 52% Southwest_Russian + 48% Turkmen @ 3.84 5 50% Turkmen + 50% Polish @ 3.87 6 53% South_Polish + 47% Turkmen @ 4.01 7 50.7% Turkmen + 49.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.18 8 52% Turkmen + 48% Belorussian @ 4.22 9 50.5% Kargopol_Russian + 49.5% Turkmen @ 4.35 10 54.7% Turkmen + 45.3% Estonian @ 4.57 11 52.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.8% Turkmen @
^^^^^Highly likely he is bukharan turkmen
This isn't surprising, as Leto essentially ran a gedmatch calc in his head. What this does is confirms that his calculation was pretty damn good, as opposed to making Turkmen ancestry much more likely. Also, Leto suggested that Uzbeks from Bukhara might be closer to Turkmens, as opposed to being actual Turkmens. Ethnicity isn't just genetics. The area might exist on a genetic continuum. However, it is now your job to see if you have Turkmen cousin matches. Unfortunately, I doubt many are in DNA databases, but good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakha