Eurogenes K13 PCA for Apricity users

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

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Care to plot my results?

North_Atlantic 25.93
Baltic 32.13
West_Med 17.10
West_Asian 7.49
East_Med 14.60
Red_Sea 0.56
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.99
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.16
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

If you don't mind:

North_Atlantic 21.33 Pct
Baltic 21.02 Pct
West_Med 18.48 Pct
West_Asian 10.97 Pct
East_Med 22.04 Pct
Red_Sea 4.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African 0.12 Pct

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Originally Posted by *****

If you don't mind:

North_Atlantic 21.33 Pct
Baltic 21.02 Pct
West_Med 18.48 Pct
West_Asian 10.97 Pct
East_Med 22.04 Pct
Red_Sea 4.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African 0.12 Pct

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You're missing a component there.

I don't want to be with ***** on the same PCA shape, remove me.

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

You're missing a component there.

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Yeah sorry,...

North_Atlantic 21.33 Pct
Baltic 21.02 Pct
West_Med 18.48 Pct
West_Asian 10.97 Pct
East_Med 22.04 Pct
Red_Sea 4.72 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.06 Pct
Oceanian 0.25 Pct
Northeast_African 0.12 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Gedza

I don't want to be with ***** on the same PCA shape, remove me.

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You weren't in it in the first place, but OK.

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Originally Posted by Gedza

I don't want to be with ***** on the same PCA shape, remove me.

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

You weren't in it in the first place, but OK.

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:rotfl:

Uh :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rofl_002:

Excellent work J.Ketch, much appreciated. Whenever you have the time it would be nice if you could add a few more samples from other TA Portuguese members (all native):

Pedro Ruben:

1 North_Atlantic - 36.29
2 West_Med - 23.67
3 East_Med - 13.8
4 Baltic - 12.4
5 Red_Sea - 4.88
6 Sub-Saharan - 2.95
7 Northeast_African - 2.41
8 West_Asian - 1.85
9 Amerindian - 1.19
10 Siberian - 0.56

Hyoga7

1 North_Atlantic 39.02
2 West_Med 23.71
3 East_Med 15.39
4 Baltic 11.85
5 Red_Sea 3.01
6 Sub-Saharan 2.88
7 West_Asian 1.1
8 East_Asian 1.07
9 South_Asian 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.46
11 Amerindian 0.4
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Oceanian 0.13

FilhoV

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.18
2 West_Med 26.89
3 East_Med 14.93
4 Baltic 9.47
5 West_Asian 3.35
6 Red_Sea 3.3
7 Northeast_African 2.45
8 Sub-Saharan 2.2
9 Oceanian 0.24

Damião de Góis

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.48
2 West_Med 25.02
3 East_Med 13.96
4 Baltic 11.15
5 West_Asian 4.28
6 Red_Sea 2.18
7 Sub-Saharan 1.87
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 Oceanian 1.08
10 South_Asian 0.37

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Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

Excellent work J.Ketch, much appreciated. Whenever you have the time it would be nice if you could add a few more samples from other TA Portuguese members (all native):

Pedro Ruben:

1 North_Atlantic - 36.29
2 West_Med - 23.67
3 East_Med - 13.8
4 Baltic - 12.4
5 Red_Sea - 4.88
6 Sub-Saharan - 2.95
7 Northeast_African - 2.41
8 West_Asian - 1.85
9 Amerindian - 1.19
10 Siberian - 0.56

Hyoga7

1 North_Atlantic 39.02
2 West_Med 23.71
3 East_Med 15.39
4 Baltic 11.85
5 Red_Sea 3.01
6 Sub-Saharan 2.88
7 West_Asian 1.1
8 East_Asian 1.07
9 South_Asian 0.69
10 Northeast_African 0.46
11 Amerindian 0.4
12 Siberian 0.29
13 Oceanian 0.13

FilhoV

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.18
2 West_Med 26.89
3 East_Med 14.93
4 Baltic 9.47
5 West_Asian 3.35
6 Red_Sea 3.3
7 Northeast_African 2.45
8 Sub-Saharan 2.2
9 Oceanian 0.24

Damião de Góis

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.48
2 West_Med 25.02
3 East_Med 13.96
4 Baltic 11.15
5 West_Asian 4.28
6 Red_Sea 2.18
7 Sub-Saharan 1.87
8 Northeast_African 1.62
9 Oceanian 1.08
10 South_Asian 0.37

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No probs, I'll do the next one tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

north atlantic- 28.71
Baltic-33.25
west med- 15.85
West Asian- 6.84
East Med -12.81
Red Sea -1.71
South Asian -
East Asian -
Siberian-0.67
Armerindian-
Oceanian-0.15
North African-
Sub-Saharan-

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You're more like a Croat than Serb if we go by these results.

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Originally Posted by Leto

You're more like a Croat than Serb if we go by these results.

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better known as a Western Serb.
There are problematic regions that I believe are Serbian, Croats believe differently. I fit right here

simply different haplogroups participated in my ethnogenesis, and differently in the ethnogenesis of the northwestern Croats. The fact that I have a little more northern genetics does not mean that I have direct links with the Croats...I absolutely know my genealogy

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

better known as a Western Serb.
There are problematic regions that I believe are Serbian, Croats believe differently. I fit right here

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Share your full oracle in this thread (you can see Ford's and Dušan's results there)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...h-thread/page5

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Originally Posted by Leto

Share your full oracle in this thread (you can see Ford's and Dušan's results there)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...h-thread/page5

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Already Pribislav shared my results, he only made a mistake about K15, I am Banija Serb )

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

https://i.postimg.cc/k4xGR80g/19March.png
https://i.postimg.cc/3RK59vyR/marc19b.png

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Do you mind adding some Jewish and Levantine avgs as references? And thank you for adding me

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

No probs, I'll do the next one tomorrow.

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Since you'll be adding Portuguese members, do you mind adding two more, please?


Ippt

North_ Atlantic 40.41
West _ Med 26.27
Baltic 12.22
East_ Med 11.25
West _ Asian 2.82
Northeast_ African 2.23
Red _ Sea 2.09
Sub-Saharan 1.26
East_ Asian 0.82
Oceanian 0.57
Amerindian 0.06



MrsVasconcelos

North_Atlantic 39.44
Baltic 9.89
West_Med 26.48
West_Asian 1.66
East_Med 13.70
Red_Sea 3.51
South_Asian 1.48
East_Asian 0.88
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.57
Northeast_African 0.18
Sub-Saharan 1.80



And the Cantabrian reference aswell, if you can, please. Bit of a personal request since the Oracle pairs me with them very often


Spanish_Cantabria

North Atlantic - 41.80
Baltic - 11.49
West Med - 29.27
West Asian - 1.75
East Med - 10.20
Red Sea - 2.37
South Asian - 0.45
East Asian - 0.03
Siberian - 0.13
Amerindian - 0.49
Oceanian - 0.47
North-East African - 0.80
Sub-Saharan African - 0.75

pls add me too. thanks. hope it's ok sorted like this, I keep them sorted largest to smallest

Eurogenes K13:

30.93 Baltic
25.10 North_Atlantic
16.34 West_Med
11.35 East_Med
10.95 West_Asian
1.30 Siberian
1.20 South_Asian
1.01 East_Asian
0.74 Amerindian
0.64 Oceanian
0.36 Sub_Saharan
0.08 Red_Sea
0.00 Northeast_African

Can anyone do a PCA k15 Eurogenes of 1/2 Kenyan 1/2 Italian

https://imgur.com/a/qqhTHfc

North_Atlantic 29.78
Baltic 32.36
West_Med 15.85
West_Asian 11.11
East_Med 9.41
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.52
Siberian 0.95
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Thank you!

My place on your PCA is wrong, could you fix it? My placement on your map is a bit more northwest than it should be. Also, this is from my FTDNA data which uses more SNPs.

X-axis: 1405
Y-axis: 582

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Originally Posted by Mingle

My place on your PCA is wrong, could you fix it? My placement on your map is a bit more northwest than it should be. Also, this is from my FTDNA data which uses more SNPs.

X-axis: 1405
Y-axis: 582

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You "shouldn't" be anywhere in specific. The PCA plot doesn't have enough references for you, since it's exclusively European and you're partially not (I'm assuming, since you wrote "Pashtun-American"). Your position here will always be misleading

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Originally Posted by HungryLion

Already Pribislav shared my results, he only made a mistake about K15, I am Banija Serb )

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What’s your kit number I want to see if we are related, my moms side is from banija.

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Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

You "shouldn't" be anywhere in specific. The PCA plot doesn't have enough references for you, since it's exclusively European and you're partially not (I'm assuming, since you wrote "Pashtun-American"). Your position here will always be misleading

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I know but its more representative still and I'm already on the PCA. It's not a big deal for me since I don't take Eurogenes seriously when it comes to Pashtuns.

I'm 0% Euro (unless you count ancient/Steppe).

SW Focus

https://i.postimg.cc/q7kwv7yD/March20a.png

SE Focus

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqVcBhLb/march20b.png

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Originally Posted by Pine

Do you mind adding some Jewish and Levantine avgs as references? And thank you for adding me

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Sorry, but this PCA only really works well for Europeans. Adding full Levantines would stretch it out too much and they would be inaccurately placed anyway. The static K15 PCA is the one that is accurate for non-Europeans and Europeans with significant non-Euro. I've added Ashkenazi.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

My place on your PCA is wrong, could you fix it? My placement on your map is a bit more northwest than it should be. Also, this is from my FTDNA data which uses more SNPs.

X-axis: 1405
Y-axis: 582

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I don't know what you mean. Of course you're inaccurately placed, that's why I took you off the PCA. I can't fix it because this calculator is heavily weighted towards European components. Those coordinates are for the DIY static K15 PCA which as I've said will be accurate for you, but not this.

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

Sorry, but this PCA only really works well for Europeans. Adding full Levantines would stretch it out too much and they would be inaccurately placed anyway. The static K15 PCA is the one that is accurate for non-Europeans and Europeans with significant non-Euro. I've added Ashkenazi.


I don't know what you mean. Of course you're inaccurately placed, that's why I took you off the PCA. I can't fix it because this calculator is heavily weighted towards European components. Those coordinates are for the DIY static K15 PCA which as I've said will be accurate for you, but not this.

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You mind running this half Kenyan an an half Italian on k15

https://imgur.com/a/qqhTHfc

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

Sorry, but this PCA only really works well for Europeans. Adding full Levantines would stretch it out too much and they would be inaccurately placed anyway. The static K15 PCA is the one that is accurate for non-Europeans and Europeans with significant non-Euro. I've added Ashkenazi.

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I don't see the Ashkenazi. Do you mind adding Italian Jews and Sephardic Jews? They should fit near Ashkenazi.

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

Just added a few national averages from the Eurogenes spreadsheet to give the PCA shape; copy and paste your values (not from the Oracle) if you want to be added. The PCA will develop and become more correct and detailed as more people are added.

https://i.postimg.cc/90KsDK81/K13a.png

I could do this for another calculator too if people would like.

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My Mexican colleague

Population
North_Atlantic 15.48
Baltic 6.18
West_Med 16.21
West_Asian 2.03
East_Med 8.79
Red_Sea 0.74
South_Asian 0.21
East_Asian -
Siberian 3.05
Amerindian 42.93
Oceanian 0.16
Northeast_African 0.57
Sub-Saharan 3.65

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Atlantic	24.01
2	Baltic	22.65
3	East_Med	19.19
4	West_Med	17.24
5	West_Asian	11.73
6	Red_Sea	4.35
7	Amerindian	0.72
8	Sub-Saharan	0.06
9	Northeast_African	0.05
10	South_Asian	0.01

If you do not mind, please include Stears as well.

North_Atlantic 28.20
Baltic 31.22
West_Med 12.91
West_Asian 10.92
East_Med 10.62
Red_Sea 0.76
South_Asian 2.02
East_Asian 0.25
Siberian 1.89
Amerindian 0.76
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.47
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Pine

I don't see the Ashkenazi. Do you mind adding Italian Jews and Sephardic Jews? They should fit near Ashkenazi.

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https://i.postimg.cc/vZBq3HHV/march20c.png

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Originally Posted by Leeloo

If you do not mind, please include Stears as well.

North_Atlantic 28.20
Baltic 31.22
West_Med 12.91
West_Asian 10.92
East_Med 10.62
Red_Sea 0.76
South_Asian 2.02
East_Asian 0.25
Siberian 1.89
Amerindian 0.76
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.47
Sub-Saharan -

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https://i.postimg.cc/PxGSXWbW/march20d.png

Is it normal for you to be closer to the Hungarian average than Stears?

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

https://i.postimg.cc/vZBq3HHV/march20c.png

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Thanks!

Can somebody explain how you make this kind of charts ?
Where do you get the coordinates for axis x,y ?
What programs do you use ?
I am totally lost here.

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Originally Posted by Stefanos.tasidis

Can somebody explain how you make this kind of charts ?
Where do you get the coordinates for axis x,y ?
What programs do you use ?
I am totally lost here.

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This isn't a cartesian graph, a PCA is something different. You can plot these things in PAST

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

Is it normal for you to be closer to the Hungarian average than Stears?

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Can you plot my family:

North_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian Northeast_African Sub-Saharan
ph2ter_wife 32.29 33.74 12.26 9.91 7.07 0.46 1.82 1.1 0 1.16 0 0 0.19
ph2ter 33.1 34.98 12.26 7.75 6.51 2.23 1.09 0 0.36 1.33 0.38 0 0
ph2ter_dad 31.82 33.99 12.8 6.12 9.84 1.78 1.06 1.15 0.1 1.05 0.3 0 0
ph2ter_son 31.96 33.97 12.11 8.87 7.22 2.1 0.79 1.4 0 1.06 0 0 0.51

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

I don't know what you mean. Of course you're inaccurately placed, that's why I took you off the PCA. I can't fix it because this calculator is heavily weighted towards European components. Those coordinates are for the DIY static K15 PCA which as I've said will be accurate for you, but not this.

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Sorry, wrong thread. I thought this was the thread created by the Cypriot Turk. Ignore that post.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 29.33
2 Baltic 27.8
3 East_Med 16.06
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 9.58
6 Red_Sea 1.14
7 Oceanian 0.53
8 Northeast_African 0.51
9 Amerindian 0.44

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Can you plot my family:

North_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian Northeast_African Sub-Saharan
ph2ter_wife 32.29 33.74 12.26 9.91 7.07 0.46 1.82 1.1 0 1.16 0 0 0.19
ph2ter 33.1 34.98 12.26 7.75 6.51 2.23 1.09 0 0.36 1.33 0.38 0 0
ph2ter_dad 31.82 33.99 12.8 6.12 9.84 1.78 1.06 1.15 0.1 1.05 0.3 0 0
ph2ter_son 31.96 33.97 12.11 8.87 7.22 2.1 0.79 1.4 0 1.06 0 0 0.51

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With pleasure, after all the times you've plotted me.

https://i.postimg.cc/t40qQT7L/ph2ter.png

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Originally Posted by J. Ketch

With pleasure, after all the times you've plotted me.

https://i.postimg.cc/t40qQT7L/ph2ter.png

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Thank you very much. It is nice when someone plots me.
(Only if I knew your other name.)