Chris,
Do you have Serb/South Slavic surnames in your family?
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Chris,
Do you have Serb/South Slavic surnames in your family?
For him (and for me among others) it does. Maybe for you it's okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
Do you count also Amerindian and Oceania?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
yeah, those are drawbacks. all commercial tests are dumbed down. but 23andme is the least bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
FTDNA and Ancestry admixtures are too broad and boring, they play it safe. MyHeritage attempts to be more detailed but the components are so badly made that the results are useless.
But in the end they are all just good for the raw data, and Eurogenes K13 is the real deal.
Oceania yes, Amerindian no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
This is an interesting model
63.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 36.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.5
The BG and HU references on Dodecad aren't bad unlike many others.
Comparison results of my cousin made at both 23andme and https://www.myheritage.com/dna/ethni...9O78U2AA9T5KTOmyheritage companies
23andme
https://i.ibb.co/hs25hTs/IMG-20200503-173504.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/ZNxCbCg/IMG-20200503-173528.jpg
Oceanian in Europeans is absolutely noise and shouldn't be paid attention to. Unless you're an old stock Aussie or Kiwi of course :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
PAGANE, can you please post your 23andMe results and your Eurogenes K13?Quote:
Originally Posted by PAGANE
I have 4.21% EE. NE_Asia + Siberian + Oceania.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.3% Bulgarian + 20.7% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 3.11
2 76.1% Macedonian + 23.9% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 3.15
3 81.5% Macedonian + 18.5% Burusho @ 3.54
4 75.9% Romanian + 24.1% Nogay @ 3.54
5 73.8% Romanian + 26.2% Turkish_Aydin @ 3.63
6 81.3% Romanian + 18.7% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 3.63
7 74.6% Macedonian + 25.4% Tadjik @ 3.87
8 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 3.93
9 84.6% Bulgarian + 15.4% Burusho @ 3.99
10 58.3% Moldavian + 41.7% Turkish @ 4.02
11 78.4% Bulgarian + 21.6% Tadjik @ 4.04
12 54% Turkish + 46% Utahn_European @ 4.04
13 85.8% Romanian + 14.2% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.04
14 74.7% Bulgarian + 25.3% Nogay @ 4.06
15 61.7% Moldavian + 38.3% Turkish_Kayseri @ 4.07
16 50.5% Turkish_Kayseri + 49.5% Utahn_European @ 4.08
[B]17 52.6% Turkish_Aydin + 47.4% Belgian @ 4.09
18 56.5% Spaniard + 43.5% Tadjik @ 4.11
19 55.7% Turkish_Aydin + 44.3% Utahn_European @ 4.22
20 80.8% Macedonian + 19.2% Pathan @ 4.26
I really don't know about it. All my family members had regular Hungarian surnames like Turi, Kovács, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
What is EE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
Kovács can be south Slavic as well as Hungarian surnameQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
I know but my point is that you can't judge someone by his look. By his results he could be South Slav but he doesn't look like one. If I had to guess (based on his appereance) I would guess him as 1/4 or at least 1/8 east asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G
You can run this one also with MH raw data: https://cladefinder.yseq.net/Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris596
It gave me more specific clade than Morley´s predictor.
Edit: Not related with the text of your post, simply it was your last post...
Let's say that average interval of each 'generation' in that person's case is 25 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
Let black person be born in 1800 and has a child with a white person in 1825. That child would be 50% black. His descendant in 1850 would be born and would be 25% black. In 1875 would be 12.5%. In 1900 would be 6.25%. In 1925 would be 3.125%. In 1950 would be 1.5625% black. In 1975 the parent of the person Ford mentioned would be born and would be 0.78125% black. In 2000 that person would be born and would be 0.39% black or 1/256.
Maybe I missed something idk.
We don't know many things. Maybe the person in question Ford mentioned is in his or hers 80s and not 20s, maybe the average interval in his or hers case is not 25 years, but 35 years. Maybe it is even lower than 25 years, we can't know. Maybe years in question are actually 180 years and not 200, but yes that person could be 3% or even more black, but could be below 1%. The point is also that genes could be 'washed' away pretty quickly.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Ford
Eastern Eurasia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
It says:Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Most specific position on the YFull YTree is E-V13 Link to E-V13
E1b-V13 Panel Predicted E-V13 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.
But only if every "mixture" are only made with 0% Black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insuperable
In my maternal family,seeing the last 4 centuries, the average is 3 generations per century not 4. But is a particular case.
https://i.postimg.cc/VNQKRR5B/tenor.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
But why are Oceania and Siberia considered Eastern Eurasian? They aren't, technicaly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
There are serbs like them too though:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terminator98
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...dimir-Rankovic
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...arovich-(HELP)
I don't know exactly, but Kaspias said only Oceania.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
I've imagined you with over more than 10% east asian/siberian or amerindian and with N or Q haplogroup. So yet again, phenotype =/= genotype. I wonder why it doesn't apply the same to east asians to look more caucasoid influenced while they are 100% EEA anyway?
I expected him to score maybe 4%, cuz that's the highest I've seen from a Hungarian. 10% or more mongoloid would've been very groundbreaking, because I've never seen a hungarian score such amountQuote:
Originally Posted by Benim
Siberia is Eastern Eurasia. Especially the Russian Far East definitely is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
[QUOTE = Kaspias; 6671060] PAGANE, можете ли да публикувате своите резултати от 23andMe и вашите Eurogenes K13? [/ QUOTE]
I only have the test at the FDNA and myheritage, but in myheritage i uploaded the autosomal file from ftdna. I didn't do a separate test there
Eurogenes K13
1 North_Atlantic 23.55
2 Baltic 23
3 East_Med 18.26
4 West_Asian 15.61
5 West_Med 13.2
6 Red_Sea 4.3
7 South_Asian 1
8 Siberian 0.56
9 East_Asian 0.52
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.79
2 Bulgarian 6.36
3 Serbian 8.21
4 Greek_Thessaly 11.99
5 Moldavian 13.03
6 Hungarian 15.02
7 Croatian 15.97
8 Italian_Abruzzo 16.35
9 Tuscan 17.27
10 Central_Greek 17.45
11 Austrian 17.65
12 North_Italian 18.29
13 East_Sicilian 18.76
14 West_Sicilian 19.06
15 East_German 19.74
16 Ashkenazi 20.58
17 West_German 20.71
18 French 21.48
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.8
20 South_Italian 21.8
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.5% Hungarian + 29.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 1.77
2 81.4% Serbian + 18.6% Kurdish @ 1.83
3 70.6% Hungarian + 29.4% Assyrian @ 1.93
4 81.6% Serbian + 18.4% Iranian @ 2
5 79.3% Serbian + 20.7% Azeri @ 2.14
6 71.6% Hungarian + 28.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.26
7 64.5% East_German + 35.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.28
8 64.6% East_German + 35.4% Assyrian @ 2.29
9 70.9% Hungarian + 29.1% Armenian @ 2.42
10 65.7% East_German + 34.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.54
11 82.1% Serbian + 17.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.6
12 67.1% Austrian + 32.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.66
13 82.4% Serbian + 17.6% Armenian @ 2.7
14 71.5% Hungarian + 28.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.76
15 78% Serbian + 22% Turkish @ 2.8
16 83.6% Serbian + 16.4% Georgian @ 2.85
17 67.2% Austrian + 32.8% Assyrian @ 2.89
18 65% Hungarian + 35% Turkish @ 2.92
19 84.6% Serbian + 15.4% Abhkasian @ 2.97
20 65.5% East_German + 34.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.97
It means non-Caucasoid. (=Mongoloid)Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
I checked his matches, he has no Serb close matchQuote:
Originally Posted by Universe
Oceania / australoids are closer to SEAs and other east asians than to iranians for example. So that's why it is considered EEA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
lol welcome to E-v13 squad :D
Now Albanians will come to tell you that you are originally Albanian! Which sub-branch of the E-V13?
I went to elementary school with girl who was even more asian influenced than chris (if you saw her on street you would think she is 50℅ east asian) but it's rare as fuck, that is what I wanted to say. Anyway, it's impressive when 1 or 2℅ affect someone's look that much. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Universe
[QUOTE = Chris596; 6670171] Kaspias, знаете ли също как мога да открия и моя митохондриална гаплогрупа? [/ QUOTE]
FDNA currently has a mother line discount of May 10-NOW ONLY- $ 139USD - complete mitochondrial
@Chris, post your Euro K15 please. Unless someone else already did a PCA for you.
And K36 for map, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Still autosomal sucks, Im not talking about raw data. I have myher raw data and cat upload it everywhere cuase it says it corrupted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Code:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.98
2 Atlantic 18.82
3 East_Med 13.49
4 North_Sea 13.16
5 West_Med 11.41
6 West_Asian 9.63
7 Eastern_Euro 9.38
8 Southeast_Asian 1.03
9 Sub-Saharan 0.08
10 Northeast_African 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 7.65
2 Bulgarian 7.68
3 Serbian 9.48
4 Croatian 9.68
5 Moldavian 10.06
6 Austrian 11.25
7 Hungarian 12.22
8 Greek 15.39
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.45
10 South_Polish 15.48
11 Greek_Thessaly 16.07
12 East_German 16.32
13 Ukrainian 16.46
14 Russian_Smolensk 17.27
15 Polish 17.86
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.89
17 Southwest_Russian 18.55
18 North_Italian 18.68
19 Tuscan 18.96
20 Belorussian 19.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.1% Bulgarian + 21.9% Lithuanian @ 4.54
2 75.8% Bulgarian + 24.2% Belorussian @ 4.74
3 73.4% Bulgarian + 26.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.78
4 60.2% Greek + 39.8% Lithuanian @ 4.78
5 76.6% Bulgarian + 23.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.96
6 53.2% Greek + 46.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.96
7 56.5% Greek + 43.5% Belorussian @ 5.04
8 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Polish @ 5.17
9 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% South_Polish @ 5.25
10 59.2% Russian_Smolensk + 40.8% South_Italian @ 5.27
11 76.2% Bulgarian + 23.8% Southwest_Russian @ 5.31
12 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.33
13 59.5% Bulgarian + 40.5% Croatian @ 5.4
14 52.1% Lithuanian + 47.9% South_Italian @ 5.4
15 50.2% Greek + 49.8% South_Polish @ 5.45
16 80.6% Bulgarian + 19.4% Estonian @ 5.45
17 57% Greek + 43% Estonian_Polish @ 5.5
18 54.2% Greek + 45.8% Polish @ 5.5
19 55.9% Belorussian + 44.1% South_Italian @ 5.51
20 52.5% Italian_Abruzzo + 47.5% Lithuanian @ 5.57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duan
Code:Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.21 Pct
Basque 2.29 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.14 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 6.75 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 16.86 Pct
East_Med 9.55 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.26 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.02 Pct
French 4.96 Pct
Iberian 5.66 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.56 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.86 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 3.87 Pct
North_Caucasian 5.52 Pct
North_Sea 4.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 2.29 Pct
West_Med 2.14 Pct
I believe baltid-cm influenced people can have East Asian like features. They do not need to score Mongoloid on gedmatch or dna tests. It is normal for Europeans to have pseudo Asian eyes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Okay, Kaspias was faster than me :) Thank you Kaspias!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
How can I find out subclade? I uploaded morley but there it says just thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MiloshN
E1b1b1a1b E-CTS1273 (E-CTS2374, E-CTS5371)
How can I find more about this.