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Well, yes, there will be tiny communities, just like there is one random one in Soroca if I'm not mistaken, that I found the other day, but the overwhelming majority live closer to the delta. So in this case, assimilated Ukrainians are more probable.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
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Most of them live in Danube delta region (Tulcea county), in Suceava their community is very tiny, plus they hardly mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
The ones in Tulcea did not mix a lot (though bear in mind Lipovans stretched till south of Constanta, the fewer they were the more they mixed), but the ones in North-Central Moldova definitely did. There are definitely still pure Russian Lipovans still in North-Central parts, I'm not saying they disappeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Why in your ancestry is written Ukrainian?Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Cause that's what I know that I have from my mom's side, should probably add Tatar and replace Ukr with German though, maybe after I test her and my grandparents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
I thought that you might have German ancestry, but right now it looks less likely, since I found more verified results in non-Transylvanian regions who have more Atlantic than Baltic. The fellow user with 4gp from Galati, alexmegas, has like 30% Atlantic and 20% Baltic. It's probably Eurogenes being Eurogenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
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Testing the parents could probably show whether it's actual heightened NA or Eurogenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yep, it should add some clarity.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
But I think your best bet to understand that are your DNA relatives (both on MyHeritage and GEDmatch). What's the sum of shared segments that you have in common with people of Germanic and Ukrainian ancestry?
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I thought to have a run only against academic samples (Stefan Voda and Balti) + old Eurogenes with all of my kits.
That includes:
1) my merged 23andme+LivingDNA kit
2) my imputed kit on DNA LAND, which I don't use because it's identical
3) my family's imputed kits on DNA LAND that I always use due to making sense in the context of my results; my results were generated with 2.5x more SNPs, so they are the most accurate of the bunch and the benchmark against which to orientate
4) my family's original kits, which I don't usually use, because of what was mentioned in 3
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Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA 25.42 29.37 15.04 9.99 12.91 1.53 0.69 1.84 2.84 0 0.37 0 0 Ion Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA_DNALAND-imputed 25.25 29.82 14.67 10.28 12.78 1.20 0.46 2.37 2.52 0 0.27 0.05 0.32 Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 22.66 31.41 14.52 12.99 11.97 1.64 1.35 0.93 2.18 0 0.22 0.13 0 Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_original 20.94 32.81 16.13 11.69 12.21 0.97 2.06 1.03 1.08 0.54 0.54 0 0 Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 21.57 34.87 15.27 11.01 11.72 1.02 0.74 2.03 1.44 0.21 0.13 0 0 Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_original 19.44 37.30 15.60 10.04 13.19 0.47 0.95 1.49 0.28 0.41 0.82 0 0 Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 25.29 31.05 13.37 12.25 11.53 0.22 1.90 0 2.14 0.95 0.07 0.92 0.30 Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_original 24.14 32.44 14.55 11.75 12.15 0 1.62 0 1.54 0.96 0 0.33 0.51
Top 10
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA 3.45421482 Moldova_34_Balti 3.70537448 Moldova_35_Balti 3.81998691 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 3.82870735 Moldova_41_Balti 3.95075942 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 4.03814314 Moldova_55_Balti 4.42827280 Moldova_38_Balti 4.56146906 Moldova_36_Balti 4.60545329 Moldova_44_Balti 5.08034448 Moldova_53_Balti
Distance to: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA_DNALand-imputed 3.75374480 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 3.78959101 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 3.81152201 Moldova_35_Balti 3.97234188 Moldova_34_Balti 4.37384270 Moldova_38_Balti 4.43185063 Moldova_41_Balti 4.45029213 Moldova_55_Balti 4.61691455 Moldova_36_Balti 4.99824969 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 5.13088686 Moldova_32_Balti
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 3.78056874 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 3.85215524 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 5.86798091 Moldova_41_Balti 6.00815279 Moldova_52_Balti 6.07051892 Moldova_35_Balti 6.20557814 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 6.43480380 Moldova_40_Balti 6.48989985 Moldova_36_Balti 6.58144361 Moldova_44_Balti 6.70091785 Moldova_33_Balti
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_original 3.99726156 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 4.09798731 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 5.53502484 Moldova_40_Balti 5.78602627 Moldova_33_Balti 5.81061959 Moldova_45_Balti 6.01611170 Moldova_31_Balti 6.42305223 Moldova_36_Balti 6.47753039 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 6.52288280 Moldova_47_Balti 6.87893887 Moldova_mixed_12_Eurogenes_1/2Moldovan_1/2Ukrainian
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 3.98743025 Moldova_40_Balti 4.50377619 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 4.69851040 Moldova_45_Balti 4.89379199 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 5.25722360 Moldova_66_Chisinau 5.46116288 Moldova_31_Balti 5.54819791 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 5.85076918 Moldova_mixed_12_Eurogenes_1/2Moldovan_1/2Ukrainian 6.25704403 Moldova_33_Balti 6.60913005 Moldova_51_Balti
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_original 4.88528402 Moldova_40_Balti 5.02362419 Moldova_45_Balti 6.69257798 Moldova_66_Chisinau 6.89836212 Moldova_33_Balti 7.21009015 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 7.29758864 Moldova_48_Balti 7.54249959 Moldova_31_Balti 7.57860145 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 7.60349262 Moldova_56_Balti 8.02385194 Moldova_51_Balti
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed 4.45938337 Moldova_35_Balti 4.48095972 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 4.56720921 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 4.74514489 Moldova_52_Balti 5.52004529 Moldova_34_Balti 5.66210208 Moldova_32_Balti 5.69595470 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 5.74258653 Moldova_41_Balti 5.78949911 Moldova_55_Balti 6.05784615 Moldova_37_Balti
Distance to: Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_original 3.29903016 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 3.33646520 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 4.78240525 Moldova_40_Balti 4.86875754 Moldova_52_Balti 4.95619814 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 5.07971456 Moldova_35_Balti 5.13551361 Moldova_36_Balti 5.25695729 Moldova_32_Balti 5.55846202 Moldova_37_Balti 5.82835311 Moldova_38_Balti
For curiosity's sake, users from Romania's Moldavia run against the same samplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Distance to: WeirdLookingFellow 7.92989281 Moldova_55_Balti 7.93121680 Moldova_38_Balti 8.17335916 Moldova_69_Balti 8.28926414 Moldova_54_Balti 8.32904556 Moldova_36_Balti 8.44169414 Moldova_102_StefanVoda 8.49914113 Moldova_44_Balti 8.57614132 Moldova_34_Balti 9.24467414 Moldova_41_Balti 9.44543276 Moldova_49_Balti
Distance to: andre 3.45826546 Moldova_105_StefanVoda 5.07223816 Moldova_30_Balti 5.22029693 Moldova_33_Balti 5.32152234 Moldova_39_Balti 5.45945052 Moldova_56_Balti 5.74927822 Moldova_89_Eurogenes 6.21766033 Moldova_92_Eurogenes 6.36461311 Moldova_46_Balti 6.55856692 Moldova_36_Balti 6.66236445 Moldova_54_Balti
Distance to: alexmegas777 7.03090321 Moldova_107_StefanVoda 9.45977801 Moldova_41_Balti 10.23799785 Moldova_34_Balti 10.40730513 Moldova_44_Balti 10.46230376 Moldova_102_StefanVoda 10.59796679 Moldova_50_Balti 11.19010277 Moldova_55_Balti 11.81711894 Moldova_53_Balti 11.86569003 Moldova_38_Balti 12.18587707 Moldova_98_StefanVoda
Forgot this former Apricity dude from R. MoldovaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Distance to: Zmey_Gorynych 3.50548142 Moldova_90_Eurogenes 4.06248692 Moldova_91_Eurogenes 4.28879937 Moldova_33_Balti 4.40454311 Moldova_51_Balti 5.00407834 Moldova_40_Balti 5.33406974 Moldova_15_Eurogenes 5.76415649 Moldova_56_Balti 6.00575557 Moldova_36_Balti 6.08956484 Moldova_46_Balti 6.15838453 Moldova_37_Balti
Suceava (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 24.60 32.75 14.70 8.38 10.93 2.70 2.02 0 1.75 1.72 0.25 0.20 0
Compared to others from Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 28.74 31.61 13.10 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0 26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0 26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29 30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0 25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0 23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0 24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0 24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0 29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0 21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0 23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0 23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0 24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0
Distance to: Suceava_ind 2.89677407 Moldova_North 3.74192464 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 3.98937873 Bosniak_Sarajevo 4.01014962 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 4.10800438 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 4.12122555 Croat_B&H 4.33804103 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 4.34219990 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 4.43496336 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 4.44353463 Croat_Slavonia 4.71491251 Bosniak 4.73748879 Croat 4.99774949 Croat_Croatia 5.09702855 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 5.12546583 Hungarian_Csango 5.14077815 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 5.21897500 Serb_B&H 5.48499772 Hungarian_Alfold 5.75158239 Romania_Moldavia_North 5.87105612 Serb_B&H_Krajina 5.89062815 Moldova_average 5.95068904 Romania_Maramures 6.02900489 Hungarian_Transylvania 6.46470417 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 6.49590640 Hungarian_Szekely
Distance to: Suceava_ind 5.27495024 Romania_Moldova_Csango 5.46173395 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 5.79201174 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.95068904 Romania_Maramures 6.70559531 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 7.02346780 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.27955917 Romania_Crisana 8.84380574 Romania_Moldova_Sud 10.19112849 Romania_Transilvania 11.33472982 Romania_Oltenia 11.39949999 Romania_Banat 11.58661728 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.71882070 Romania_Dobrogea 12.75994514 Romania_Muntenia 14.08775710 Bulgarian 17.43945813 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 17.52515906 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 22.88058566 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 27.08120012 Crimean_Tatar 27.29032796 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 36.20190050 Romania_Roma 36.58874554 Romania_Jewish
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.0203% / 2.02030920 | ADC: 0.25x
29.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
29.2 Romania_Maramures
14.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.8 Romania_Moldova_Csango
11.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
2.4 Romania_Roma
1.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
-Hungarians
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.1755% / 2.17546184 | ADC: 0.25x
35.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord
32.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
28.2 Romania_Maramures
2.4 Romania_Roma
1.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
Distance to: Suceava_ind 3.73120624 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 5.08923373 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 5.14378265 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 6.77829625 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 6.93581286 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 7.32387193 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 8.35690732 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 8.67389186 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 11.20389664 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 11.77908740 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 11.89655833 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 36.58874554 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 20.65 26.70 17.19 10.49 19.25 2.39 0.44 0.37 0.84 1.01 0.08 0.59 0
Compared to others from Vrancea
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.67 23.88 15.52 12.44 17.04 3.22 1.84 1.26 1.59 0.16 0.39 0 0 23.92 23.07 20.63 9.31 15.68 1.32 2.74 1.52 0.53 1.01 0 0.15 0.13
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 1.67874953 Romania_Banat 2.56877403 Bulgarian_Sofia 2.60484165 Romania_Dobruja 2.70360870 Moldova_South 3.08481766 Romanian_Wallachia 3.10473831 Romania_Muntenia 3.24847657 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora 3.38609846 Macedonian 3.53877097 Bulgarian 3.58087978 Serb_Serbia_South&East 4.08855720 Romania_Transylvania 4.10925784 Bosniak_Sandzak 4.14937345 Romanian_Oltenia 4.41901573 Turk_N-Macedonia 4.45244876 Romania_Moldavia_South 4.51720046 Pomak_Nevrokopi 4.52539501 Bulgarian_Gabrovo 4.57257039 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 4.58396117 Pomak_Plovdiv 4.65112890 Macedonian_Northwest 4.67889944 Montenegrin 4.75371434 Bulgarian_Pleven 4.82151428 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik 5.05696549 Gagauz 5.51361950 Macedonian_North
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 1.67874953 Romania_Banat 2.60484165 Romania_Dobrogea 3.10473831 Romania_Muntenia 3.53877097 Bulgarian 4.08855720 Romania_Transilvania 4.14937345 Romania_Oltenia 4.45244876 Romania_Moldova_Sud 6.93396712 Romania_Maramures 6.99964999 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 7.00991441 Romania_Crisana 7.02264907 Romania_Moldova_Nord 8.29470916 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 9.12490548 Romania_Moldova_Csango 10.84442036 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 11.18067251 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 12.58097770 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 16.51018171 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 22.58755188 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.76684886 Romania_Jewish 26.14242911 Crimean_Tatar 28.82519037 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 31.52429856 Romania_Roma
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 1.5229% / 1.52285409 | ADC: 0.25x
94.4 Romania_Banat
3.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
2.6 Romania_Jewish
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 3.75058662 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 3.91029411 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 4.04533064 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 5.18568221 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 5.83980308 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 6.79007364 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 6.99524839 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 7.82187318 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 9.84003557 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 10.55969223 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 15.03036593 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 25.76684886 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Falesti (R. Moldova)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 26.22 34.90 12.85 10.54 10.96 1.08 0.09 1.83 0 0.52 0.41 0 0.59
Compared to others partially from Falesti
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 24.90 34.32 14.54 5.42 14.28 2.29 1.58 0 2.07 0 0.34 0 0.25
Distance to: Falesti_ind 3.51623378 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central 3.77573834 Moldova_North 3.89125944 Croat_Slavonia 4.79444470 Croat 4.86499743 Croat_Croatia 5.05016831 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 5.39099249 Croat_B&H 5.46852814 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj 5.55537577 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina 5.58683273 Hungarian_Alfold 5.78531728 Bosniak_Sarajevo 5.97800134 Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner 6.06259021 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 6.24217911 Croat_B&H_Bosnia 6.39061030 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 6.54303446 Hungarian 6.54628903 Bosniak 6.71143800 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje 6.74993333 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 7.02972972 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar 7.12755919 Hungarian_Budapest 7.23338786 Slovenian 7.27069460 Serb_B&H 7.27906587 Hungarian_Northern 7.34636645 Hungarian_Csango
Distance to: Falesti_ind 3.77573834 Moldova_North 6.74993333 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.39748772 Moldova_Centre 9.68579372 Moldova_Ukrainian 10.02150687 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.43127727 Ukrainian 14.33704991 Moldova_South 16.84574724 Russian_Smolensk 18.26456131 Moldova_South_Gagauz 18.73891406 Moldova_Bulgarian 25.12833622 Russian_Pinega 28.43392164 Crimean_Tatar 28.83996012 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 38.12593343 Moldova_Jewish 38.98335414 Moldova_Roma
Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 3.1586% / 3.15859459 | ADC: 0.25x
80.0 Moldova_North
11.6 Russian_Smolensk
8.4 Moldova_Centre
Distance to: Falesti_ind 3.67329552 Moldova_Falesti 3.96784576 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 4.30861927 Moldova_Briceni 4.84979381 Moldova_Rezina 5.34893447 Moldova_Telenesti 5.46881157 Moldova_Transnistria 5.67722644 Moldova_Edinet 5.69051843 Moldova_Orhei 5.74149806 Moldova_Chisinau 5.85865172 Moldova_Ocnita 5.94166643 Moldova_Balti 6.20436943 Moldova_Glodeni 6.78803359 Moldova_Floresti 7.12741187 Moldova_Soldanesti 7.19565841 Moldova_Straseni 7.22538580 Moldova_Ialoveni 7.36345028 Moldova_Eurogenes 7.76593845 Moldova_Calarasi 8.24304555 Moldova_Nisporeni 9.01390038 Moldova_AneniiNoi 9.68579372 Moldova_Ukrainian 10.10237101 Moldova_Cimislia 10.72670033 Moldova_Ungheni 10.76374470 Moldova_Hincesti 11.74171197 Moldova_Causeni 14.45210711 Moldova_Cahul 15.68687031 Moldova_StefanVoda 18.08626274 Moldova_Gagauzia 18.28519073 Moldova_Cantemir 18.73891406 Moldova_Bulgarian 38.12593343 Moldova_Jewish 38.98335414 Moldova_Roma
Vaslui (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 26.83 28.68 12.40 9.88 16.13 2.43 0 0 2.06 0.76 0.19 0.05 0.60
Compared to others from Vaslui
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 26.56 26.95 15.36 8.59 16.04 3.01 0.55 0.08 2.86 0 0 0 0 27.11 28.41 15.71 11.50 11.75 2.05 0.24 0 2.54 0 0.17 0.51 0 23.46 28.78 17.10 9.49 15.08 2.33 0.19 0.10 2.35 0.58 0.56 0 0 27.35 30.13 13.04 10.69 15.62 1.55 0 0 1.50 0.11 0 0 0 24.66 30.29 16.67 14.00 10.44 0.58 0.27 0 1.69 0.91 0.09 0.40 0
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 3.94859469 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.66837231 Romania_Moldavia_average 5.10148998 Moldova_average 5.11782180 Hungarian_Szekely 5.13114997 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia 5.18981695 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija 5.22860402 Serb_Croatia 5.35711676 Bosniak 5.48822376 Romania_Crisana 5.55808420 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 5.57163351 Hungarian_Csango 5.57815382 Serb 5.58046593 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina 5.66014134 Serb_Serbia 5.69830677 Serb_Serbia_West&Central 5.74409981 Bosniak_Sarajevo 5.76725238 Moldova_Centre 5.80406754 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia 5.80436904 Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper 5.80901024 Serb_B&H 5.99739944 Serb_Croatia_Lika 6.01473191 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia 6.07313757 Croat_B&H 6.09165002 Hungarian_Transylvania 6.23098708 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 3.91132970 Romania_Moldova_Nord 4.42599141 Romania_Moldova_Csango 5.19812174 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 5.48822376 Romania_Crisana 5.88583972 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 6.24446955 Romania_Moldova_Sud 6.44228220 Romania_Maramures 6.97595872 Romania_Transilvania 7.75025161 Romania_Oltenia 8.65043930 Romania_Banat 8.69416471 Romania_Muntenia 9.19384033 Romania_Dobrogea 10.05004478 Bulgarian 12.07379808 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 13.10041221 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 13.76165324 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 17.38330233 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.60935517 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 26.48321922 Crimean_Tatar 28.25065840 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 31.24397862 Romania_Jewish 35.04522079 Romania_Roma
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.5133% / 3.51333465 | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
30.4 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
2.6 Romania_Jewish
-Hungarian
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.8681% / 3.86808542 | ADC: 0.25x
98.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
1.2 Romania_Jewish
Distance to: Vaslui_ind 3.83241438 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 5.57722153 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 6.29961110 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 8.28276524 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 8.55083622 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 9.42039277 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 10.29471709 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 31.24397862 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Galati (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.52 27.45 17.38 8.35 20.94 2.51 0.42 0 0 0 0.28 0.15 0
Compared to others from Galati
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0 25.16 26.55 17.24 7.34 18.67 1.22 0.10 0.55 2.79 0.26 0 0 0.11 22.46 22.60 20.88 9.02 18.60 2.24 0.54 1.14 1.35 0.46 0.27 0 0.42 22.08 24.92 18.64 9.44 20.04 0.67 2.40 0.51 0.33 0.62 0.34 0 0 22.69 29.15 17.61 8.40 16.84 0 2.13 2.38 0 0 0.61 0.19 0 21.56 26.67 17.52 13.26 15.33 2.80 0 0.23 0.61 1.01 0.85 0 0.17 23.39 25.98 18.41 11.38 15.27 1.44 1.47 0 0.40 0.95 1.06 0 0.26
Distance to: Galati_ind 3.68148068 Serb_Serbia_South&East 3.85616390 Bulgarian_Pleven 3.86715176 Macedonian 4.06600541 Bulgarian_Sofia 4.27214232 Romania_Banat 4.39094523 Serb_B&H_Herzegovina 4.72414013 Romanian_Wallachia 4.74336379 Romania_Transylvania 4.84607057 Romania_Dobruja 4.99761943 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora 5.00732463 Moldova_South 5.02485821 Romania_Muntenia 5.04833636 Montenegrin 5.05069302 Romanian_Oltenia 5.19094404 Bulgarian 5.21724065 Bosniak_Sandzak 5.30031131 Romania_Moldavia_South 5.55965826 Macedonian_Northwest 5.81184136 Macedonian_East 5.99964999 Macedonian_North 6.08038650 Serb_Serbia 6.08866981 Romania_Crisana 6.15717468 Bulgarian_Central 6.18043688 Romania_Moldavia_average 6.22108511 Bulgarian_Serres
Distance to: Galati_ind 4.27214232 Romania_Banat 4.74336379 Romania_Transilvania 4.84607057 Romania_Dobrogea 5.02485821 Romania_Muntenia 5.05069302 Romania_Oltenia 5.19094404 Bulgarian 5.30031131 Romania_Moldova_Sud 6.08866981 Romania_Crisana 6.84561904 Romania_Maramures 7.25364736 Romania_Moldova_Nord 7.61465035 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 8.95551785 Romania_Moldova_Csango 9.23272441 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 10.71065709 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 11.13251393 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 12.88959270 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 15.94832593 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 22.59671436 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.79163236 Romania_Jewish 28.85614666 Crimean_Tatar 31.12790709 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 33.11325414 Romania_Roma
Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 2.9868% / 2.98682538 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Romania_Banat
18.4 Romania_Crisana
11.6 Romania_Maramures
11.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
10.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.2 Romania_Jewish
-Ukrainian, Aromanian, Jewish
Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 3.8733% / 3.87330597 | ADC: 0.25x
70.2 Romania_Banat
26.6 Romania_Crisana
3.2 Romania_Muntenia
Distance to: Galati_ind 4.11111907 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 5.01742962 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 5.62943159 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 7.43376755 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 8.14231540 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 10.50248066 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 13.89068393 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 25.79163236 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
Galati (Romania's Moldavia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 30.11 20.59 20.39 10.51 13.94 2.83 0.03 0 1.49 0.03 0.08 0 0
Compared to others from Galati
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.52 27.45 17.38 8.35 20.94 2.51 0.42 0 0 0 0.28 0.15 0 25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0 25.16 26.55 17.24 7.34 18.67 1.22 0.10 0.55 2.79 0.26 0 0 0.11 22.46 22.60 20.88 9.02 18.60 2.24 0.54 1.14 1.35 0.46 0.27 0 0.42 22.08 24.92 18.64 9.44 20.04 0.67 2.40 0.51 0.33 0.62 0.34 0 0 22.69 29.15 17.61 8.40 16.84 0 2.13 2.38 0 0 0.61 0.19 0 21.56 26.67 17.52 13.26 15.33 2.80 0 0.23 0.61 1.01 0.85 0 0.17 23.39 25.98 18.41 11.38 15.27 1.44 1.47 0 0.40 0.95 1.06 0 0.26
Distance to: Galati_ind 7.30724298 Friuli-VG 8.23989078 Trentino 8.60811826 Montenegrin 8.82031745 Veneto 8.84285022 Bulgarian_Central 8.86833130 Swiss_French 9.06857210 Macedonian_Northwest 9.09550988 Romanian_Oltenia 9.48623740 Romania_Transylvania 9.52174879 Bulgarian_Southwest 9.58846605 North_Macedonian 9.76016393 Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia 9.83211066 Bosniak_Sandzak 9.87612778 Romania_Moldavia_South 9.96161132 Bulgarian_Serres 9.99398319 Romania_Crisana 10.12655659 Macedonian 10.15816913 Bulgarian_Gabrovo 10.16273585 FRA_Provence 10.18320185 Hungarian_Szekely 10.22931083 Vlach_North-Macedonia 10.24827303 Romanian_Wallachia 10.25023902 Piedmont 10.55649563 Serb_Croatia 10.55713503 Hungarian_Transylvania
Distance to: Galati_ind 9.09550988 Romania_Oltenia 9.48623740 Romania_Transilvania 9.87612778 Romania_Moldova_Sud 9.97782139 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 9.99398319 Romania_Crisana 10.22931083 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 10.65471703 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 11.28122334 Romania_Muntenia 11.33799806 Romania_Dobrogea 11.43880676 Bulgarian 11.46452354 Romania_Moldova_Csango 11.68921725 Romania_Banat 12.19084903 Romania_Moldova_Nord 12.39463997 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 12.43458483 Romania_Maramures 14.36975296 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 20.35018673 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 24.91646243 Ukrainian_Lviv 29.00904859 Romania_Jewish 29.19589012 Crimean_Tatar 32.13236997 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 34.31062809 Romania_Roma
Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 6.9740% / 6.97395504 | ADC: 0.25x
51.2 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
48.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
Distance to: Galati_ind 8.78895329 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 9.90649787 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 9.95666109 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 10.67516745 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 11.30039380 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 13.04254193 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 17.63558618 Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian 29.00904859 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
30% N. Atlantic and 20% Baltic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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An actual user from Apricity. Maybe he will like to talk about it, but as far as it was communicated to me, all 4 gp are ethnic Romanians from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
From Briceni (Republic of Moldova)
both parents born in the town of Lipcani
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.85 36.30 13.11 9.12 13.06 1.59 0 0 2.69 1.27 0 0 0
Compared to others from Moldova
Distance to: Briceni_ind 3.10332080 Moldova_Briceni 3.92905841 Moldova_Edinet 4.20320116 Moldova_Falesti 4.41293553 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 4.94263088 Moldova_Soldanesti 5.43335992 Moldova_Chisinau 5.72524235 Moldova_Glodeni 5.74492820 Moldova_Balti 5.87853723 Moldova_Floresti 6.23725901 Moldova_Ialoveni 6.24422934 Moldova_AneniiNoi 6.30713088 Moldova_Telenesti 6.35513965 Moldova_Eurogenes 6.95667306 Moldova_Rezina 6.98259264 Moldova_Ocnita 7.24945515 Moldova_Orhei 7.47627581 Moldova_Straseni 7.85466104 Moldova_Transnistria 8.51442893 Moldova_Cimislia 8.62332882 Moldova_Nisporeni 8.69926434 Moldova_Calarasi 9.68274754 Moldova_Hincesti 9.91644089 Moldova_Ukrainian 10.14265744 Moldova_Ungheni 11.73326042 Moldova_Causeni 14.52854432 Moldova_Cahul 14.93882526 Moldova_StefanVoda 17.42462338 Moldova_Gagauzia 18.52219209 Moldova_Cantemir 19.02911191 Moldova_Bulgarian 37.05237374 Moldova_Jewish 38.62551100 Moldova_Roma
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 2.7121% / 2.71206988 | ADC: 0.25x
68.2 Moldova_Centre
11.8 Russian_Pinega
11.4 Moldova_Ukrainian
8.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
Can you post the Oracle too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Sure, I usually avoid it because we both know that the average was made by slapping several ethnicities together. And because of that, I'm also skeptical with regards to other nationalities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan Original GEDmatch Moldovan 24.45 33.59 14.99 9.79 10.47 1.56 1.29 0.52 1.31 0.78 0.75 0.08 0.41 Average North 25.89 33.33 14.92 8.89 11.43 1.48 0.65 0.56 1.47 0.35 0.61 0.17 0.26 Average Centre 23.30 30.44 15.09 10.01 14.77 1.87 1.22 0.60 1.44 0.52 0.38 0.14 0.20 Average South 21.68 25.46 18.06 10.91 18.15 2.51 0.41 0.61 1.02 0.58 0.39 0.10 0.12
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.3
2 North_Atlantic 22.85
3 West_Med 13.11
4 East_Med 13.06
5 West_Asian 9.12
6 Siberian 2.69
7 Red_Sea 1.59
8 Amerindian 1.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.57
2 Croatian 5.83
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.59
4 Serbian 9.75
5 Hungarian 9.84
6 Ukrainian 10.62
7 South_Polish 11.02
8 Romanian 12.26
9 Southwest_Russian 12.66
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.09
11 Bulgarian 13.64
12 Polish 14.01
13 Austrian 14.76
14 East_German 14.87
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.15
16 Estonian_Polish 15.52
17 Belorussian 16.25
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.56
19 Erzya 17.43
20 Tatar 17.76
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.9% Southwest_Russian + 30.1% Central_Greek @ 1.94
2 72.9% Southwest_Russian + 27.1% South_Italian @ 1.95
3 64% Southwest_Russian + 36% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
4 51.9% Southwest_Russian + 48.1% Bulgarian @ 2.06
5 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Erzya @ 2.1
6 58.9% Romanian + 41.1% Erzya @ 2.14
7 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.21
8 54.9% Bulgarian + 45.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.21
9 80.6% Ukrainian + 19.4% Cyprian @ 2.35
10 82.6% Ukrainian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.36
11 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Samaritan @ 2.56
12 82.3% Ukrainian + 17.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.63
13 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
14 71% Southwest_Russian + 29% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
15 70% Southwest_Russian + 30% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.73
16 50.8% Romanian + 49.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.75
17 75.6% Southwest_Russian + 24.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.76
18 81.2% Ukrainian + 18.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.76
19 51.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.9% Bulgarian @ 2.79
20 75.7% Southwest_Russian + 24.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.83
Very northern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Reminds me of my mom's OracleQuote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.3
2 North_Atlantic 19.44
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 13.19
5 West_Asian 10.04
6 East_Asian 1.49
7 South_Asian 0.95
8 Oceanian 0.82
9 Red_Sea 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.41
11 Siberian 0.28
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.25
2 Croatian 7.99
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.42
4 Serbian 11.5
5 Ukrainian 12.18
6 Romanian 13.11
7 Hungarian 13.15
8 South_Polish 13.26
9 Bulgarian 13.68
10 Southwest_Russian 14.19
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.26
12 Polish 15.81
13 Russian_Smolensk 16.57
14 Estonian_Polish 17.02
15 Austrian 17.59
16 East_German 17.62
17 Belorussian 17.97
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.35
19 Erzya 18.65
20 Tatar 20.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Cyprian @ 4.64
2 61.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.88
3 58.5% Bulgarian + 41.5% Erzya @ 4.88
4 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.94
5 81.4% Ukrainian + 18.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.99
6 68% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32% Central_Greek @ 5.04
7 51.1% Bulgarian + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 5.06
8 68.2% Southwest_Russian + 31.8% Central_Greek @ 5.12
9 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Samaritan @ 5.13
10 61.9% Southwest_Russian + 38.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.13
11 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Assyrian @ 5.14
12 73.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 71.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.7% South_Italian @ 5.21
14 69.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.9% East_Sicilian @ 5.25
15 66.6% Lithuanian + 33.4% Cyprian @ 5.29
16 79.9% Ukrainian + 20.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.29
17 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.31
18 62.6% Bulgarian + 37.4% Lithuanian @ 5.31
19 76.1% Southwest_Russian + 23.9% Cyprian @ 5.33
20 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.35
Yes, similar results, but your mother is mixed, he is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I've got some very rare results donated to me, which I will process and share tomorrow.
A Moldovan/Romanian with parents from Bolgrad and Izmail in the Budjak region of Ukraine.
As promisedQuote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.04 26.87 17.24 12.49 19.31 2.99 0.68 0.27 1.35 0.76 0 0 0
Compared to other South Moldovans
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.71 29.10 18.39 10.79 14.63 4.48 0 0.85 0 2.02 0.74 0.25 0 21.75 29.53 15.63 11.25 16.39 0.98 1.08 0 3.24 0 0.15 0 0 25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0 24.58 26.99 16.65 9.73 18.18 0.81 0.65 0 0 1.67 0.67 0 0.08 25.52 22.73 18.64 10.79 16.15 1.81 0.56 0.39 1.59 1.43 0.39 0 0 22.29 23.14 18.52 9.30 22.34 0.76 0 0.51 1.65 0.89 0.23 0.38 0 22.37 27.22 20.67 11.29 12.72 2.47 0.35 0 2.30 0.43 0.19 0 0 25.53 21.30 17.70 11.50 17.99 1.44 0.76 1.26 0.73 1.10 0.57 0 0.15 22.73 24.91 19.63 10.59 16.07 1.66 1.38 0.20 1.36 0.94 0.53 0 0 21.01 25.42 16.62 11.92 18.51 4.11 0.58 0 0 0 0.50 0.51 0.82 18.42 25.95 16.17 15.44 17.84 3.82 0.56 0.56 0 1.25 0 0 0 18.27 19.97 19.01 15.32 19.44 4.68 0.12 1.50 0.68 0.54 0 0 0.48 19.84 23.81 19.67 11.16 19.93 3.16 0 0.00 1.21 0.29 0.52 0 0.40 22.08 23.50 19.95 9.57 19.50 3.24 0 1.74 0.34 0 0.08 0 0 16.91 24.06 20.61 12.07 23.58 0 0.52 0 1.03 0 0.29 0.45 0.50 20.23 23.81 21.69 7.85 19.98 3.35 0 0 2.91 0 0.19 0 0 21.08 28.93 14.78 9.89 19.66 4.48 0.57 0.61 0 0 0 0 0 21.23 24.68 15.16 12.29 20.35 3.67 0 0 2.38 0 0.25 0 0 26.39 24.34 17.44 13.21 12.41 4.18 0 0.31 0.71 0 0.89 0 0.12
Distance to: Bolhrad_ind 3.79639302 Moldova_StefanVoda 4.24366587 Bulgaria_Northcentral 4.62403503 Pomak_Nevrokopi 4.78118186 Romania_Muntenia 4.83393215 Bulgaria_Northwestern 4.83646565 Bulgaria_Southcentral 4.85996914 Bulgaria_average 4.91451931 Romania_Dobruja 5.06033596 Moldova_Gagauzia 5.17741248 Moldova_Ungheni 5.26155870 Romania_Banat 5.42990792 Pomak_Drama 5.48498861 Macedonian_Central 5.57640565 Romania_Wallachia 5.83334381 Bulgaria_Southwestern 5.97984114 Bulgaria_Southeastern 6.15126003 Romania_average 6.28036623 Bulgaria_Northeastern 6.31061804 MMacedonian 6.47618715 Moldova_Cimislia 6.47992284 Macedonian_North 6.48383374 Romania_Oltenia 6.63229221 Moldova_Hincesti 6.74544291 Macedonian_Northwest 6.86673139 Serb_Serbia_South&East
Distance to: Bolhrad_ind 4.52645557 Moldova_South 5.06033596 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 8.58612835 Moldova_Centre 9.16172473 Moldova_Bulgarian 13.66773939 Moldova_North 18.18912587 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 23.14622431 Moldova_Ukrainian 23.80914320 Ukrainian_Lviv 24.83952294 Moldova_Jewish 24.95161317 Crimean_Tatar 25.20989488 Ukrainian 27.95123611 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 30.46376044 Russian_Smolensk 30.46546898 Moldova_Roma 36.82033584 Russian_Pinega
Target: Bolhrad_ind
Distance: 4.2186% / 4.21864447 | ADC: 0.25x
92.2 Moldova_South
2.8 Moldova_Jewish
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Moldova_Roma
1.0 Russian_Pinega
Distance to: Bolhrad_ind 3.79639302 Moldova_StefanVoda 5.06033596 Moldova_Gagauzia 5.17741248 Moldova_Ungheni 6.47618715 Moldova_Cimislia 6.63229221 Moldova_Hincesti 7.39275997 Moldova_Cahul 7.74342947 Moldova_Causeni 8.37581638 Moldova_Eurogenes 8.44975148 Moldova_Ialoveni 9.16172473 Moldova_Bulgarian 9.92043850 Moldova_Calarasi 9.98363160 Moldova_Chisinau 10.15087188 Moldova_Straseni 10.30358675 Moldova_Nisporeni 10.84587018 Moldova_Soldanesti 10.86261939 Moldova_Balti 11.26948091 Moldova_Telenesti 11.49923911 Moldova_Cantemir 12.28151456 Moldova_Edinet 12.50733785 Moldova_Orhei 12.55245394 Moldova_Briceni 12.79983984 Moldova_Ocnita 13.03861572 Moldova_Glodeni 13.46828497 Moldova_AneniiNoi 14.03177822 Moldova_Falesti 14.61447570 Moldova_Floresti 16.23802020 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/<wbr>2EastSlavic 16.58335913 Moldova_Transnistria 17.00424065 Moldova_Rezina 23.14622431 Moldova_Ukrainian 24.83952294 Moldova_Jewish 30.46546898 Moldova_Roma
He definitely is, but not recently. People in the North seem to be quite the Ukrainian mix. Far from pure, just like those in the South seem to be mixed with a Southern element. All of Moldova is a big corcitura.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Very Southern for someone from Odessa oblast but then again, he is more native to the region than the (Russo-)Ukrainians living there.
Yep, the Stefan Voda samples from the village of Caplani are also on the border with Odessa Oblast. And as a group they are our most Southern group from Moldova. Individually, some of them are also the most Southern Moldovans that I've got yet, though I have significantly less samples from the South as opposed to the Centre and North.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I think I checked the share of the Southern Moldovan districts relative to the whole country's population and it was something like 20% with Gagauzia and 15% without it. So they should naturally be rarer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
In your case is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yes, I've just checked and there are 16% without Gagauzia in the South and 25% in the North. The majority is in the Centre and specifically Chisinau.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
For you Ukrainian mixes who got acculturated as Moldovans are not corcituras because you are a big Slavic simp. But it's true, like it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
When you will test and find hundreds of Ukrainian and Polish matches, you will also accept that.
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Bolgrad and Ismail districts have a big Bulgarian presence, especially Bolgrad who was their center in Budjak, and still is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Strange you tell me this, since my arguments on results of some people from my area who are visible northern for region, I said they can be Ukrainian admixed because I know local ethnic background. Person from Briceni is Northern because half of the district is Ukrainian, part of them are even native for the region, who can be themself Balkan admixed already like Carpathian Rusyns, is similar to the South, but more complex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
And yes, I don't like then Moldavians are darkwashed by some Romanos or Serbs who chose especially these very southern results from the South, and claiming what they are "pure" , the rest are bastards mixed with Ukrainians/Russians, I saw this so many times. I take all this as a personal insults.
Nothing strange to have Ukrainian/Polish matches, when Eastern Slavs are part of Moldavian ethnogenesis since XIVth century.
There is nothing wrong with being Ukrainian admixed, just like with any other kind of mixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
I am probably the most qualified from here to draw the assumption that everyone is fairly mixed, since I have seen the most results over the years, be they on GEDmatch, 23andme, MyHeritage, FTDNA, etc.
What I find funny is that you accept East Slavic mixes as Moldovan, whereas shunning on Moldovans from the South, who come from monoethnic villages, like those from Caplani. This is hypocritical and denotes personal insecurities.
It is strange, when the same Moldovans from over the river don't have the same weight of Ukrainian and Polish matches. This leads to the conclusion that people here are more multicultural genetically and assimilated such people in the past.
South is the most heterogeneous region of the country, with plenty of land colonised recently by many ethnic groups from south of Danube in recent time. These ones from other side of Prut river are mixed with individuals from other regions, they don't have a coutnry in the past 160 years, today they are just Romanos, even by look today they are not much different from Wallachians from the south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
And arguments about monoethnic villages is useless, this one is monoethnic too: http://localitati.casata.md/index.ph...litate&id=1211
Eu te rog frumos, nu borî moldovenii.
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Ion Basescul puts it very well in words:
Quote:
What I find funny is that you accept East Slavic mixes as Moldovan, whereas shunning on Moldovans from the South, who come from monoethnic villages, like those from Caplani. This is hypocritical and denotes personal insecurities.
There was safe to no Wallachian immigration into Moldova, except for the known Vrancea-Galati-Braila-Buzau area of intermixing. Even so, most Moldavians from said area do not know to have southern origins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Whatever documents we have earlier than 1900 show at most some Transylvanians moving in.
Edit: And just to add, there's nothing wrong with looking like Wallachians, although I'd say we diverge.
Te rog eu frumos, nu borî moldovenii.