Target: Jgab602FatherProxy_Scaled
Distance: 1.0889% / 0.01088896
36.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
28.6 Iberia_BA
20.4 Imperial_Romans
5.8 Proto-Celts
4.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
2.8 Germanic_Ruler
1.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
:D
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Target: Jgab602FatherProxy_Scaled
Distance: 1.0889% / 0.01088896
36.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
28.6 Iberia_BA
20.4 Imperial_Romans
5.8 Proto-Celts
4.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
2.8 Germanic_Ruler
1.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
:D
Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 0.7746% / 0.00774596
62.2 Germanic_Ruler
17.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
9.4 Visigoth
5.2 Iberia_BA
5.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
0.8 Imperial_Romans
Target: g25_scaled
Distance: 3.6219% / 0.03621947
44.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
31.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
24.4 Germanic_Ruler
https://i.imgur.com/AZJIhEU.jpg
Target: g25_scaled
Distance: 1.0332% / 0.01033181
66.0 Slavic_invader
29.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.2 Proto-Celts
1.0 Germanic_Ruler
https://i.imgur.com/MIni7Fb.jpg
https://media.tenor.com/2TVaOzJrE2AA...ko-belarus.gif
Sure give it a go and see what you get.Quote:
Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain
I used the original model and just added these. When I added the Saxon it ate up all the England_IA I got.
I'll look at Jingle Bell's suggestion and see what happens when I add some samples from the Bronze Age a bit later.Code:Scotland_IA,0.125205,0.139128,0.066373,0.061047,0.033237,0.022869,0.00329,0.009461,0.00409,0.005649,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.017542,-0.014726,0.02918,-0.005038,-0.027772,-0.002407,-0.000126,0.007629,0.010981,0.001978,0.002711,-0.001446,0.014011
England_IA,0.130093,0.1346472,0.0601618,0.052782,0.0386678,0.0172584,0.0023915,0.0035564,0.0059432,0.0048239,-0.0044896,0.0065149,-0.0130907,-0.0148714,0.0220985,0.0073625,-0.0037427,0.0008048,0.0014197,0.0031044,0.0042426,0.0024802,-0.0014862,0.0074424,-0.0005635
England_Saxon,0.1324615,0.1340499,0.0638747,0.0569288,0.0411615,0.020568,0.006257,0.0068939,0.0039881,-0.0024146,-0.0049326,0.0045524,-0.0092914,-0.0124548,0.0242431,0.011237,-0.0030804,0.0015045,0.0052008,0.0066595,0.0053344,0.0024731,-0.0016482,0.0166438,-0.0008681
Distance to: CDG_scaledQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
0.02408798 England_IA
0.02415211 England_Saxon
0.03824909 Scotland_IA
Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0903% / 0.02090337
55.0 England_Saxon
22.6 England_IA
22.4 Scotland_IA
Interesting. I wonder if this has anything to do with the Dutch Bell Beakers?
Target: IvorixG25_ScaledQuote:
Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley
Distance: 2.1906% / 0.02190561
21.2 Scotland_IA
20.6 Iberia_BA
19.2 Proto-Celts
10.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
9.4 England_Saxon
9.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.0 Imperial_Romans
i wasn't using the updated spreadsheet :picard2:
Code:Target: IvorixG25_Scaled
Distance: 1.9671% / 0.01967077
42.2 Proto-Celts
21.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.6 Scotland_IA
11.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
10.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Wasn't aware that your father was fully European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
With the British IA samples added:
Actually the lowest distance so far. I like this runs Jgab602, hopefully it is not really your final Iberian calculator. Would be interesting to see the calculator you made but with unscaled samples too.Code:Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 1.2195% / 0.01219500
32.2 Proto-Celts
21.2 Scotland_IA
19.4 Iberia_BA
17.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
5.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
4.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
With the new (better) proxy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Target: Jgab602FatherProxy_Scaled
Distance: 1.0471% / 0.01047097
36.6 Iberia_BA
24.8 Imperial_Romans
22.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
12.2 Germanic_Ruler
4.2 Proto-Celts
Yes i would like to try a unscaled version tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Same here, and it doesn't make any sense even from an historic point of view. It tells me that these samples that are currently avaliable on G25 aren't enough to model most iberians, maybe they are good for northeast iberians but that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.5036% / 0.01503649
27.2 Iberia_BA
25.0 Germanic_Ruler
18.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
6.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 1.2822% / 0.01282165
23.4 Iberia_BA
19.6 Scotland_IA
14.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
13.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
11.4 Germanic_Ruler
11.0 England_IA
6.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
Yeah, maybe bcs we still lack of Western Iberian IA samples, if i remember we only have 2 from Conimbriga which were read as possible Lusitan samplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Damiăo de Góis
:thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.4873% / 0.00487275
47.2 West_Niger-Congo
17.6 Iberia_BA
16.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
10.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
5.0 Imperial_Romans
2.6 South_Amerindian
0.6 Scotland_IA
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy_Scaled
Distance: 0.9538% / 0.00953835
39.0 Iberia_BA
21.8 Imperial_Romans
14.6 Scotland_IA
10.2 Proto-Celts
8.8 Germanic_Ruler
5.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
0.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
Beforehand, if you do not want to disclosure his ancestry it is completely fine but I am really curious to know your father ancestry. I would guess Basque\South-West French based on those results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Edit: Nevermind, I get it now, it is your Euro proxy. I don't know where did I get the idea that it was your father's results :lol:
(Probably) Final version of the Proxy:
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy_Scaled
Distance: 0.9293% / 0.00929299
38.6 Iberia_BA
23.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.0 Imperial_Romans
13.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
7.6 Proto-Celts
3.6 Germanic_Ruler
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy_Scaled
Distance: 0.9164% / 0.00916400
41.2 Iberia_BA
17.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
14.2 Imperial_Romans
12.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
7.8 Proto-Celts
4.6 Scotland_IA
2.2 Germanic_Ruler
No, haha, I have a thread, where I posted about this proxy I created for my European DNA, I called it Father's Proxy, because my father is white and I am exactly 50% Euro (in most calcs, or close, if not exactly in all the others), I've tried to do his DNA test, but he refused to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled
Distance: 1.0349% / 0.01034895
36.6 Iberia_BA
28.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.2 Imperial_Romans
12.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
6.8 Proto-Celts
2.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
0.8 Germanic_Ruler
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled
Distance: 1.0286% / 0.01028622
39.0 Iberia_BA
22.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
13.4 Imperial_Romans
6.6 Proto-Celts
3.8 Scotland_IA
1.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled
Distance: 0.8923% / 0.00892299
36.4 Iberia_BA
32.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.4 Imperial_Romans
11.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
2.6 Proto-Celts
0.6 Germanic_Ruler
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled
Distance: 0.8786% / 0.00878626
39.4 Iberia_BA
26.0 Pre-Proto-Celts
15.2 Imperial_Romans
11.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
4.6 Scotland_IA
2.8 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
0.8 Germanic_Ruler
0.2 Proto-Celts
I hope this is the last one:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgab602
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled_Ov4
Distance: 0.8195% / 0.00819544
37.2 Iberia_BA
33.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
17.0 Imperial_Romans
6.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
5.8 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled_Ov4
Distance: 0.8156% / 0.00815645
38.6 Iberia_BA
29.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
18.4 Imperial_Romans
5.8 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
5.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
2.4 Scotland_IA
Comparison with the actual results:
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.5630% / 0.00563027
49.4 Jgab602Afro-Amerindian_DNA
18.2 Iberia_BA
16.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
8.4 Imperial_Romans
5.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
2.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Target: Jgab602_scaled
Distance: 0.5617% / 0.00561701
49.4 Jgab602Afro-Amerindian_DNA
18.6 Iberia_BA
15.0 Pre-Proto-Celts
8.8 Imperial_Romans
5.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
2.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.2 Scotland_IA
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled_Ov5
Distance: 1.0554% / 0.01055426
37.2 Iberia_BA
32.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.8 Imperial_Romans
13.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
2.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.0 Germanic_Ruler
Target: Jgab602EuroProxy-Final_Scaled_Ov5
Distance: 1.0552% / 0.01055196
37.6 Iberia_BA
31.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
13.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
13.4 Imperial_Romans
2.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
0.8 Germanic_Ruler
0.6 Scotland_IA
For shits and giggles:
Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 2.0315% / 0.02031549
64.0 Germanic_Ruler
27.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
8.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 3.0922% / 0.03092163
56.4 Germanic_Ruler
33.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
10.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Since I don't have g25 official coords, here's the closest gen dist simulated coords I have from Eurogenes k15:
Target: Brad.Eurogenes.K15.sims
Distance: 0.8751% / 0.00875105
69.2 Germanic_Ruler
25.0 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: FilhoV_scaled
Distance: 1.2688% / 0.01268785
23.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
23.0 Iberia_BA
22.8 Germanic_Ruler
13.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
9.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
8.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
Target: Portuguese:Portugal10
Distance: 1.5144% / 0.01514386
31.8 Iberia_BA
23.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
12.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
12.4 Germanic_Ruler
11.4 Imperial_Romans
8.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: Portuguese:Portugal1
Distance: 2.1739% / 0.02173932
39.4 Pre-Proto-Celts
27.0 Iberia_BA
24.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
8.4 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
1.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
Target: Greek_Cyclades_Milos
Distance: 0.8102% / 0.00810159
48.4 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
21.4 Imperial_Romans
11.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
7.2 Proto-Celts
6.8 Germanic_Ruler
5.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Target: Greek_Cyclades_Amorgos
Distance: 1.2626% / 0.01262571
34.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
32.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
20.6 Imperial_Romans
10.4 Germanic_Ruler
2.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
Target: Sicilian_West
Distance: 0.6482% / 0.00648242
37.2 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
22.4 Imperial_Romans
21.0 Pre-Proto-Celts
8.2 Proto-Celts
5.0 Iberia_BA
4.6 Germanic_Ruler
1.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
Target: Sicilian_East
Distance: 0.8088% / 0.00808791
37.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
24.6 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
17.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.8 Germanic_Ruler
5.2 Imperial_Romans
3.4 Iberia_BA
Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 1.6092% / 0.01609207
72.8 Germanic_Ruler
12.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
9.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
4.8 Iberia_BA
0.4 Berbers_&_Guanches
Now with G25 coords:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt
Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 1.3210% / 0.01320984
74.0 Germanic_Ruler: Gothic
12.6 Germanic_Ruler: MA_Alemanic_Byzantine
7.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans: Rome_Imperial
2.8 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Etruria_Imperial
2.0 Germanic_Ruler: Migration_Suebi
1.6 Berbers_&_Guanches: Canary_Islands
yes , i added suebi
Target: eins_scaled
Distance: 1.6780% / 0.01677967
27.2 Iberia_BA
25.2 West_African_Coast
18.2 Osi_Tribe
9.6 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
7.6 Berbers_&_Guanches
7.2 Proto-Celts
5.0 Imperial_Romans
:rolleyes2:
Target: cass
Distance: 3.3343% / 0.03334295 | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 Germanic_Ruler
35.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
3.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: cass
Distance: 3.3343% / 0.03334295 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Germanic_Ruler:Gothic
27.8 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA112
14.4 Germanic_Ruler:Migration_LIB:Suebi:LIB2
7.4 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15955
3.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR128
Target: Demirkazık_Dad_scaled
Distance: 1.7706% / 0.01770564
58.0 Anatolian_IA
17.8 Germanic_Ruler
12.6 Asian
11.6 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: Demirkazık_Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.6056% / 0.02605600
54.0 Anatolian_IA
16.6 Asian
10.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
9.6 Germanic_Ruler
9.0 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: Demirkazık_scaled
Distance: 2.0375% / 0.02037458
53.2 Anatolian_IA
22.8 Germanic_Ruler
14.8 Asian
9.2 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
Target: celtiville_scaled
Distance: 1.6578% / 0.01657762
27.8 Iberia_BA
16.4 Volta–Niger
13.8 Germanic_Ruler
9.8 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
9.8 Pre-Proto-Celts
9.6 Bantu-East
5.4 Imperial_Romans
4.0 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.4 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
jingle bell what is difference between celts hallstatt , urnfiled between la tene? and what were first celts they was most genetically related to germans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jingle Bell
urnfield was most related to germanics? why they score so much northwest europe?
Hallsttat and Urnfield seens pretty identical, a more central/sw euro profile, while La Tene is usually more North Euro like, prob bcs germanic contactQuote:
Originally Posted by brunolord20
Hallsttats are the first "true celts", Urnfield werent exactly celt but more proto-celt like, and La Tene is culturally like Hallsttat but w some extern influences + druidism
but why for example in this thread when i take a sample from urnfield and compare it with modern pop it seems almost totally nortwest , why? how la tene is most north euro?
example la tene sample :
Distance to:
Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.02565936 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta8
0.02835332 Italian_Northeast:ALP081
0.02837114 French_Auvergne:C_80
0.02928983 French_Occitanie:T_53
0.03048622 French_Occitanie:T_87
0.03076591 Spanish_Penedes:ALE088
0.03159689 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:ALP071
0.03164176 French_Auvergne:C_3
0.03184555 French_Occitanie:T_123
0.03193531 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona:ROI042
0.03217988 French_Provence:S_22
0.03220532 Swiss_French:Swiss_French7
0.03250209 Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige:Nei27
0.03250866 Spanish_Catalunya_Central:CAR048
0.03280815 Italian_Northeast:ALP220
0.03287639 Italian_Veneto:KF1803105
0.03289198 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona:GUS202
0.03298207 French_Nord:N_28
0.03303558 French_Alsace:A_26
0.03313159 Italian_Aosta_Valley:Aosta9
0.03328398 Italian_Northeast:KF1803129
0.03340535 Spanish_Castello:CAR023
0.03362546 French_Auvergne:C_13
0.03366517 Italian_Northeast:ALP354
0.03367180 French_Alsace:A_49
urnfield sample
Distance to:Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20526
0.02775509 Welsh:WalesBK58
0.02918187 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_1
0.03193083 German_Erlangen:GSM1658617
0.03261787 German_Erlangen:GSM1658641
0.03286180 French_Occitanie:T_119
0.03344035 BelgianC:5434289075_R04C02
0.03361483 German_Erlangen:GSM1658642
0.03385001 German:German41
0.03397452 BelgianA:5434289001_R01C01
0.03410036 BelgianA:5434289041_R03C02
0.03431861 Dutch:GSM1633998
0.03442214 French_Alsace:A_81
0.03442999 Afrikaner:AFR094
0.03455004 French_Pas-de-Calais:French25068
0.03463206 BelgianB:5434289003_R01C01
0.03473206 English_Cornwall:HG00264
0.03480293 French_Nord:N_19
0.03487375 French_Occitanie:T_33
0.03500305 French_Alsace:A_25
0.03502476 Dutch:GSM567335
0.03561617 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_16
0.03563548 BelgianC:5434289075_R01C01
0.03565772 Dutch:GSM1633976
0.03621708 Afrikaner:AFR053
0.03624585 French_Nord:N_80_2
Target: caesarsalad_scaled
Distance: 1.5853% / 0.01585288
49.8 Greeks_Colonies/Romans
14.8 Germanic_Ruler
13.0 Proto-Celts
12.4 Iberia_BA
6.2 Pre-Proto-Celts
3.8 Imperial_Romans
Distance to: caesarsalad_scaled
0.03503220 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:GRC_Helladic_MBA:Log02
0.04699442 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851
0.04882775 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA_o:RMPR437b
0.04913503 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016
0.04937280 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11701
0.05118013 Imperial_Romans:ITA_Etruria_Imperial:ETR001
0.05373513 Proto-Celts:CZE_IA_Hallstatt:I14980
0.05772012 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11708
0.06129177 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
0.06286549 Proto-Celts:AUT_IA_La_Tene:I11699
0.06364957 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9033
0.06619805 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9041
0.06875894 Phoenicians_of_Iberia:Iberia_Ibiza_Punic:MS10614
0.06968457 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I15041
0.07034100 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13795
0.07183112 Iberia_BA:Iberia_Formentera_MBA:I4420_all
0.07218878 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13793
0.07240293 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13798
0.07244788 Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_North_BA:I2471
0.07384024 Iberia_BA:Iberia_Mallorca_EBA:I4329
0.07397057 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I13788
0.07416502 Iberia_BA:Iberia_BA:Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8570
0.07521785 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:Greco:Greco-Micenei:GRC_Mycenaean:I9006
0.07561165 Greeks_Colonies/Romans:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR69
0.07695167 Pre-Proto-Celts:Urnfield:CZE_LBA_Knoviz:I20517
La Tene seens pretty average, but Urnfield seens kinda northern shifted, have u some average?Quote:
Originally Posted by brunolord20
i got these samples here , i don't know where i can get more samples
do you know how to interpret my results from this calc? what ancient ancestry i have?
Target: eindhein_scaled
Distance: 1.6576% / 0.01657599
28.0 Iberia_BA
16.4 West-Bantu
13.8 Germanic_Ruler
9.8 Amerindian_BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
9.6 Bantu-East
9.6 Pre-Proto-Celts
5.6 Imperial_Romans
4.2 Berbers_&_Guanches
3.0 Phoenicians_of_Iberia
Quote:
Originally Posted by brunolord20
Looks prty much average Iberian, the Germanic its eating part of ur celtic but despite hat nothing rly uncommon