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When I look at the spreadsheet for K13:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3...w1Q2dDNDg/edit
Turkmen got ~10% Siberian.
Yakut got 74% Siberian.
Uygur got 20% Siberian.
Turks/Turkey got 3.6%.
Eastern-Finns, got 8.6%.
Sooo... Finns are actually more Turkic than Turks? :D
Pima have 5,18% Siberian and North Amerindians 21,97%.
If Siberian is Turkic marker, looks like North America was first colonized by ancient Turks.:icon_yes:
Actually in a sense, it was.
I think the most common theory about the origin of the native americans, is that they came from Siberian asians, aka Turkic people.
We can assume all Turkics have Siberian admixture, but frankly I've never heard of all Siberian admixture being Turkic. Looks like Pan-Turanism just got on a whole new level.:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by drogin
Turkic languages are very young and their proto-Altaic ancestor diverged around 10,000 years ago from other Eurasiatic languages such as Uralic and Indo-European for instance (see Pagel et al). All much younger than the initial colonisation of the Americas so Native Americans aren't closely related to Turks neither by ancestry nor linguistically (except maybe some North Americans.Quote:
Originally Posted by drogin
Well depends how you define Turkic. I do realize the most correct definition is probably a Turkic language speaker. But if that's the case then I and another Norwegian can move to Turkey, and have a 100% Norwegian kid which speaks Turkish as his mother tongue, and our kid would be Turkic by definition. Which sounds a bit wrong to my ear, as Turkic also applies a sense of ethnic origin to me, personally.
And the Turkic language and the origin of the Turks, are Altaic/Siberian. Everyone else is just Turkified local populations...meaning Turks for instance, are mostly just Turkified Greeks.
For reference, my known ancestry is: ~47% Irish, ~28% Colonial American, 12.5% Swedish, 12.5% Luxemburgian
Admix Results (sorted):
1 North_Atlantic 47.17
2 Baltic 24.77
3 West_Med 15.53
4 West_Asian 7.7
5 Amerindian 1.96
6 East_Med 1.36
7 South_Asian 0.64
8 Northeast_African 0.61
9 Siberian 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
1 Dutch 4.27
2 German 5.3
3 Orcadian 5.43
4 Irish 5.62
5 Southeast_English 5.8
6 Southwest_English 6.02
7 Danish 6.35
8 West_Scottish 6.63
9 Norwegian 7.47
10 Swedish 8.59
11 French 12.06
12 North_Swedish 13.89
13 Austrian 15.43
14 Hungarian 16.4
15 Spanish_Cataluna 19
16 Southwest_French 19.39
17 Spanish_Galicia 20.14
18 Spanish_Cantabria 20.16
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.17
20 Portuguese 20.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
1) 91.7% Dutch + 8.3% French_Basque @ 3.57
2) 89.6% Dutch + 10.4% Southwest_French @ 3.65
3) 95.7% Dutch + 4.3% Sardinian @ 3.7
4) 85.2% Irish + 14.8% Romanian @ 3.7
5) 86.7% Irish + 13.3% Bulgarian @ 3.71
6) 83.1% Southwest_English + 16.9% Ukrainian_West @ 3.72
7) 90.5% Dutch + 9.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.73
8) 83.6% Irish + 16.4% Serbian @ 3.76
9) 92.2% Dutch + 7.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.78
10) 87.8% Southwest_English + 12.2% Erzya @ 3.79
11) 91.6% Dutch + 8.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.79
12) 83.7% Southwest_English + 16.3% Ukrainian @ 3.8
13) 92.1% Dutch + 7.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.82
14) 98.3% Dutch + 1.7% Mayan @ 3.83
15) 85.9% Southwest_English + 14.1% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.84
16) 85.6% Southwest_English + 14.4% Russian @ 3.84
17) 79.6% Irish + 20.4% Hungarian @ 3.87
18) 96.6% Dutch + 3.4% Balkar @ 3.87
19) 98.4% Dutch + 1.6% Pima @ 3.87
20) 92.4% Dutch + 7.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.87
4-Ancestors Oracle
Using 2 populations approximation:
1) 50% German +50% Irish @ 4.496
2) 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 4.598
3) 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 4.678
4) 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 4.718
5) 50% Dutch +50% Irish @ 4.789
6) 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 4.866
7) 50% German +50% West_Scottish @ 4.883
8) 50% Dutch +50% Orcadian @ 4.951
9) 50% Dutch +50% German @ 5.125
10) 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 5.135
Using 3 populations approximation:
1) 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.223
2) 50% Swedish +25% Irish +25% Southwest_French @ 4.250
3) 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.331
4) 50% Norwegian +25% Irish +25% Southwest_French @ 4.392
5) 50% Dutch +25% German +25% Southwest_English @ 4.392
6) 50% Dutch +25% Dutch +25% Southwest_English @ 4.431
7) 50% German +25% Irish +25% Southwest_English @ 4.439
8) 50% Irish +25% Hungarian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.473
9) 50% Irish +25% Austrian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.478
10) 50% Dutch +25% German +25% Irish @ 4.481
Using 4 populations approximation:
1) French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.223
2) Irish + Southwest_French + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.250
3) French_Basque + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 4.261
4) Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_French + Swedish @ 4.278
5) French_Basque + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.331
6) Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_French @ 4.392
7) Dutch + Dutch + German + Southwest_English @ 4.392
8) Dutch + German + Irish + Southwest_English @ 4.417
9) Dutch + Dutch + Dutch + Southwest_English @ 4.431
10) German + German + Irish + Southwest_English @ 4.439
11) Hungarian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 4.473
12) Austrian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 4.478
13) Dutch + Dutch + German + Irish @ 4.481
14) Southwest_French + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 4.484
15) German + German + Irish + Irish @ 4.496
16) Irish + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.513
17) Dutch + German + Irish + Irish @ 4.519
18) Hungarian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.531
19) Dutch + German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.533
20) Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish @ 4.536
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 48.27
2 North_Atlantic 25.81
3 West_Med 11.7
4 West_Asian 5.42
5 East_Med 3.87
6 Red_Sea 1.43
7 East_Asian 1.3
8 Siberian 1.29
9 Oceanian 0.82
10 Amerindian 0.1
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian 2.91
2 Ukrainian_Northeast 5.12
3 Ukrainian 5.16
4 Belorussian 5.42
5 Ukrainian_West 6.36
6 Polish 7.53
7 Lithuanian 7.69
8 Kargopol_Russian 7.86
9 Estonian 9.38
10 Erzya 9.61
11 East_Finnish 11.89
12 Finnish 11.91
13 Southwest_Finnish 13.78
14 Hungarian 16.87
15 Austrian 18.29
16 North_Swedish 20.11
17 Serbian 21.76
18 Chuvash 24.28
19 Swedish 25.13
20 Romanian 25.36
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.3% Russian + 13.7% Lithuanian @ 2.67
2 82.9% Russian + 17.1% Belorussian @ 2.74
3 95.8% Russian + 4.2% Estonian @ 2.88
4 99.8% Russian + 0.2% Dai @ 2.9
5 99.9% Russian + 0.1% Papuan @ 2.91
6 99.9% Russian + 0.1% Vietnamese @ 2.91
7 99.9% Russian + 0.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 2.91
8 99.2% Russian + 0.8% Ukrainian @ 2.91
9 100% Russian + 0% Cambodian @ 2.91
10 100% Russian + 0% Malay @ 2.91
11 100% Russian + 0% Abhkasian @ 2.91
12 100% Russian + 0% Adygei @ 2.91
13 100% Russian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.91
14 100% Russian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.91
15 100% Russian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 2.91
16 100% Russian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 2.91
17 100% Russian + 0% Algerian @ 2.91
18 100% Russian + 0% Altaian @ 2.91
19 100% Russian + 0% Armenian @ 2.91
20 100% Russian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 2.91
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.7% German + 26.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.58
2 61.5% Danish + 38.5% Greek @ 2.81
3 64.7% Southeast_English + 35.3% Greek @ 2.89
4 67.8% Dutch + 32.2% Ashkenazi @ 2.89
5 70.7% German + 29.3% Greek @ 2.89
My mom's:
Pct. Calc. Option 1
1 Southeast_English 82.01%
2 Sardinian 6.79%
3 Bulgarian 4.98%
4 Greek 3.76%
5 Kalash 2.41%
6 Turkmen 0.02%
7 Turkish 0.01%
8 Romanian 0.01%
9 Ashkenazi 0.01%
10 Samaritan 0.00%
Must be a gypsy ancestor as she has no known Kalash or Bulgarian.