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la muestra galo romana me base en una muestra puramente galo celta y otra del norte de italia y central basicamente lo que seria en un principio y mirare de quitar las muestras del neolitico a ver que tal y las dejo de la edad de bronce creo que asi sera algo mas preciso como dices
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tu modelo resultados:
Target: van
Distance: 133.2034% / 1.33203408 | R4P
39.4 Spain_Muslim
32.2 Spain_IA
26.8 Viking
1.6 Spain_Roman
Una pregunta tu te sabes el numero de kit de las muestras visigodas de girona es que las que encontra estan desactualizadas y no estan estaria interesante ponerlas varias son mezcla de nativo iberico y nordico
edit: aqui quite las muestras neolticas y bell beaker:
Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Bronze_Age_Iberia,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87
Medieval_Foggia_Italy,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80 ,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
Danish_Viking,51.20,30.17,6.5,0.89,2.25,2.32,2.59, 0.4,1.12,0.72,0.75,0.75,0.35
Celtic_Hallsttat,38.92,32.48,18.46,0.09,6.51,0.00, 0.00,0.42,0.00,1.96,1.17,0.00,0.00
Roman_Mix_Greek,17.03,1.66,19.44,20.33,31.48,6.62, 0.00,1.01,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.96,0.66
Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian,34.10,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0.00,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0.00
Avar_Elite,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8. 65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57
North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer,30.35,63.54,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gaul_Continental_Celt,46.43,22.51,14.80,5.46,3.01, 0.00,4.55,0.00,1.01,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.80
Greek_Empuries,17.76,1.64,31.49,9.14,35.44,4.14,0. 00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Celt_Alpine,39.50,17.21,24.82,0.86,12.42,1.1 4,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.97,0.76,0.18
Illyrian_Dalmatia,36.73,13.11,23.57,8.04,15.67,2.8 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Illyrian,34.32,11.00,26.54,8.45,18.52,0.92,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gallo_Roman,35.68,11.93,29.76,4.90,11.58,1.78,0.56 ,0.3,0.13,0.05,0.21,0.04,3.08
Roman_england,49.99,26.48,15.02,5.23,0.13,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.87,0.07,0.00,2.20
Target: van
Distance: 149.1387% / 1.49138690
45.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
30.4 Proto_Celt_Alpine
10.2 Greek_Empuries
8.0 Celtic_Iberia
6.2 Gaul_Continental_Celt
Un modelo para "ibéricos" (o centrado en...) para coordenadas del K36:
Para iberoamericanos (o quien quiera usarlas):Code:Balkan,0.00,0.72,3.92,1.46,0.00,4.83,0.00,0.00,9.93,0.00,6.43,10.61,4.23,1.43,3.41,9.21,0.00,21.23,0.00,4.91,0.30,3.43,2.74,3.73,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.00,2.15,4.94
Basque,0.03,0.06,0.04,29.73,0.00,1.40,0.00,0.00,1.09,0.00,1.03,0.18,0.56,1.40,4.39,37.44,0.00,6.48,0.01,0.04,0.14,5.54,0.00,5.70,0.03,0.03,0.00,0.01,0.00,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.00,0.02,4.57
British_isles,0.15,0.01,0.06,2.20,0.01,6.91,0.00,0.00,1.55,0.00,6.05,0.04,4.92,8.50,7.90,12.75,0.00,6.94,0.00,0.02,0.02,18.25,2.05,19.60,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.06,0.56,0.00,0.45,0.02,0.27,0.61
Eastern_Iberia,0.07,0.77,0.28,6.59,0.00,4.90,0.04,0.03,1.99,0.00,1.97,2.48,1.49,2.26,6.59,28.54,0.00,17.34,0.03,0.99,1.23,6.59,0.29,8.22,0.07,0.04,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.02,0.23,0.00,0.39,6.50
Finland,0.24,0.00,0.09,0.60,0.02,1.43,0.00,0.01,0.83,0.29,6.22,0.00,8.70,71.03,1.10,0.83,0.14,0.01,0.00,0.00,0.01,1.85,0.00,3.50,0.00,0.19,0.01,0.00,0.49,0.25,0.05,0.01,1.68,0.11,0.14,0.17
France&Germany,0.05,0.12,0.80,2.62,0.00,6.10,0.00,0.00,3.44,0.00,6.24,0.72,3.54,7.81,7.11,14.95,0.01,14.21,0.00,0.23,0.09,11.95,1.41,15.20,0.00,0.03,0.01,0.01,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.60,2.31
Greece,0.04,3.21,6.09,1.00,0.01,2.97,0.00,0.00,6.77,0.02,2.37,16.18,1.18,0.65,2.65,7.94,0.00,19.62,0.02,10.40,0.42,1.26,5.49,1.86,0.00,0.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.01,0.08,0.00,0.16,0.00,4.17,5.42
Italy,0.03,1.72,3.68,1.87,0.00,3.27,0.00,0.00,4.97,0.00,2.46,10.41,1.23,1.14,4.48,13.96,0.00,22.52,0.00,6.36,0.67,4.65,2.25,5.65,0.01,0.05,0.01,0.00,0.00,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.16,0.00,2.48,5.92
Scandinavia,0.14,0.00,0.03,1.73,0.00,7.08,0.00,0.02,1.97,0.00,7.72,0.01,6.48,22.69,6.02,6.84,0.00,4.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.54,0.71,19.09,0.00,0.03,0.01,0.03,0.18,0.02,0.21,0.01,0.95,0.00,0.12,0.12
Slav,0.03,0.06,0.30,1.17,0.00,8.13,0.00,0.00,6.58,0.00,24.01,0.16,17.59,11.75,3.08,4.39,0.00,3.36,0.00,0.05,0.05,6.82,1.43,8.18,0.00,0.02,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.28,0.00,1.74,0.00,0.47,0.31
Western_Iberia,0.03,0.97,1.05,6.99,0.04,2.26,0.07,0.00,2.40,0.01,2.69,2.22,2.00,1.47,4.91,27.76,0.00,15.76,0.00,2.21,3.78,8.13,0.06,7.16,0.32,0.06,0.21,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.33,0.01,0.40,0.07,0.33,6.24
Code:Amerindian,84.36,0.03,0.04,0.27,0.09,0.44,0.19,0.54,0.44,0.57,0.27,0.00,0.81,0.54,0.68,0.54,0.23,0.21,0.37,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.02,0.06,6.82,0.17,0.47,0.00,0.57,0.14,0.00,0.03
West_Africa,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.93,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.00,1.20,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,95.85,0.00,0.03
Creo que todas las muestras identificadas como visigodas en España son de individuos muy mezclados. Incluso no solo con ibéricos, si no también con balcánicos y otras etnias europeas.Quote:
Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain
Muchas de las muestras de visigodos andaluces están mezcladas con norteafricanos y árabes, las muestras identificadas como visigodas encontradas en Cataluña (o en mayor medida) tienden a ser más nor/centroeuropeos.
Básicamente son visigodos en un contexto arqueológico o histórico, porque fueron enterrados como visigodos en cementerios visigodos,o simplemente en época en la que la península estaba bajo control visigodo. Igual que las muestras Nazaríes o hasta alguna Almohade, están muy mezcladas o son mayoritariamente ibéricas, lo mismo, son muestras datadas en esas épocas y halladas en zonas bajo su control en esos momentos.
Pasa lo mismo con muchos individuos encontrados en enterramientos de sitios arqueológicos griegos o romanos.
Es lo que recuerdo de cuando discutimos sobre esas muestras, podría equivocarme.
lo que me dio:
Target: ivan
Distance: 644.6638% / 6.44663844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4 Western_Iberia
27.2 Italy
21.4 Basque
9.0 Eastern_Iberia
Target: mama
Distance: 763.6758% / 7.63675816 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.8 Western_Iberia
16.0 British_isles
14.8 Basque
11.4 Greece
Target: papa
Distance: 860.1470% / 8.60146953 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0 Eastern_Iberia
18.0 Basque
lo que me dio:
Target: ivan
Distance: 644.6638% / 6.44663844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4 Western_Iberia
27.2 Italy
21.4 Basque
9.0 Eastern_Iberia
Target: mama
Distance: 763.6758% / 7.63675816 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.8 Western_Iberia
16.0 British_isles
14.8 Basque
11.4 Greece
Target: papa
Distance: 860.1470% / 8.60146953 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0 Eastern_Iberia
18.0 Basque
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