Are you happy with your haplogroups?

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Originally Posted by Urbanuss

Its true that ANE were 100% caucasoids? Or at least 75%?

There's some members saying that they were "mong" admixed.

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Call me by my username your coward, they were not purely west eurasian(western Hunter gatherers) genetically and that is a fact, nothing surprising for a population living in siberia.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

Call me by my username your coward

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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/im...ine=1633885064

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Originally Posted by Tongio

Call me by my username your coward, they were not purely west eurasian(western Hunter gatherers) genetically and that is a fact, nothing surprising for a population living in siberia.

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Yeah, I believe that this population was generally closer to west Eurasian, but had a shift toward East Asians because of some maybe approx ten percent Tiunyan-related ancestry.

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Originally Posted by CordedWhelp

Yeah, I believe that this population was generally closer to west Eurasian, but had a shift toward East Asians because of some maybe approx ten percent Tiunyan-related ancestry.

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ANE is the source of transmission of blonde hair.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...E-not-from-WHG

Modeling it as a mixture of two other populations produces an abysmal distance.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

Call me by my username your coward, they were not purely west eurasian(western Hunter gatherers) genetically and that is a fact, nothing surprising for a population living in siberia.

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The admixture can be as high as 35%.

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Originally Posted by Petalpusher

ANE and AG are closer to WHG than to any East Asian population. ANE did split with Kostenki from something close to Ust-Ishim, which ultimately leaded to something more West Eurasian in the Paleolithic, then WHG and in between (SHG-EHG). Everything is from that ENA cline in the "hunters" stuff with a parallel basal Eurasian line staying closer to the near east and probably some interactions in between (until it really formed the Anatolian hunter Pibarsi with some WHG in the Balkans).

40Ky to 25Ky yes everything was more East Eurasian in today's terms but because nothing was that West Eurasian yet in that branch. It's the same for East Asians though, as result they became more and more removed from West Eurasians. We both drifted several ways apart from a common intial branch of Eurasians or Eastern Non Africans. It doesnt make much sense to see ANE as Japanese or Chinese admixed today, it was just one step with Kostenki on the path west for things to become more West Eurasian.

IEs were not 100% ANE or AG anyway. They were 1/3 ANE like when entering Europe and most Euros don't score real East Asian today, which is only mechanical as nothing is more removed West in Eurasia than Europeans so that can only be the reference for being 0% or close to 0% East Asian. In the same way East Asians are zero West Eurasian or ANE conversely. It's more a matter of perspective how much Eurasians all have in common and at what point in time. What's important is the end result and how far apart each populations have become, which is pretty much a nice triangle between Europe, East Asia and Africa, each being one corner.

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Cope, they were twice as high as that.

I'm R-Z17 and U2e1a1


My father is R-Z19 (R-Z17 but Z19 on 23andme, Z17 is a subclade of Z18, subclade of Z79) and U5b2a1a

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Originally Posted by CordedWhelp

Yeah, I believe that this population was generally closer to west Eurasian, but had a shift toward East Asians because of some maybe approx ten percent Tiunyan-related ancestry.

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*25% , 1/4, take a look at MA1(mal ta buret)
https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/...-dzudzuana.jpg

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DNA tests published in 2013 revealed that Tianyuan man is related "to many present-day Asians and Native Americans".He had also clearly diverged genetically from the ancestors of modern Europeans or Aboriginal Australians.He belonged to mitochondrial DNA haplogroup B, and his Y-chromosomal haplogroup was K2b.

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K2b >> P >> P-V1651 >> P - 337 >> R >> R1 >> R1b
Conclusion , unfortunaly R1 does have non west eurasian origins.

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Originally Posted by Tongio

*25% , 1/4, take a look at MA1(mal ta buret)
https://indo-european.eu/wp-content/...-dzudzuana.jpg


K2b >> P >> P-V1651 >> P - 337 >> R >> R1 >> R1b
Conclusion , unfortunaly R1 does have non west eurasian origins.

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Lol k2b is far from r1. I1 is SSA because they descended from A if you go back far enough

My paternal haplogroup is very very atypical for where my paternal line is from. Almost all my matches on FamilyTreeDNA are Slavs