Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

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Originally Posted by Laberia

And why you didn`t this countings?

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I don't speak retard, be more clear.

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Originally Posted by Laberia

When happened this migration of Albanians from North to South Albania? And how did this Albanians cleansed this slavs? What the historical records say about this?

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It's been a while since I've looked at the details. Probably starting from 1300 AD or even earlier, the migrations were relatively rapid and went straight into the heart of Greece . I think the chronicle of John Musachi mentions the Slavs and their fate in southern Albania. Anyways search 'hammond map albanian migrations' on google images.

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Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

I don't speak retard, be more clear.

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Originally Posted by Laberia

So, basically you are telling me that this retard of your friends, Scholarios has not any idea about the percentage of this famous I2a when he posted this study in this thread with the title: Slavic I2a1 in southern Albania.
Great. I have no doubt that he is an retard troll.

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I think you can understand this.

Abubu i had a question for you http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4274060
when you have time, thanks in advance as Laberia say.

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Originally Posted by kuqezi

It's been a while since I've looked at the details. Probably starting from 1300 AD or even earlier, the migrations were relatively rapid and went straight into the heart of Greece .

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Looks like the movie Independence Day. Any scientific paper who prove this? Because there are many questions.

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Originally Posted by kuqezi

I think the chronicle of John Musachi mentions the Slavs and their fate in southern Albania.

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Insignificant, only in Opar, read here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ka#post4269557

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Originally Posted by kuqezi

Anyways search 'hammond map albanian migrations' on google images.

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We have discussed here about this maps of Hammond:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4173569
Let me quote here Hammond:
The problem i hope to deal with is how did the Albanians get from this remote part of Kurvelesh down to all parts of Greek peninsula and indeed the greek islands....
So according to Hammond this people arrived from Kurvelesh, not from Kelmendi. Well, a little bit strange this Hammond.
Anyway, at least someone with a theory. After many threads and 55 pages in this thread, Scholarios is without a theory.

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Originally Posted by Laberia

I think you can understand this.

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I just told you and I have done so earlier in the thread, you 5 ft retard.

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Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

I just told you and I have done so earlier in the thread, you 5 ft retard.

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Quote your post here.

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Originally Posted by ilir

Talking about 1500 years ago and saying ghegs and tosk it doesn’t have much sense you think.

Basically you agree that Albanian speaking individuals are the core of the population that affected all the neighbouring countries as the study says.Or better the one that didn't assimilate throe slavization, hellenisation and latinisation. And the highest levels of IBD sharing that are found in the albanian-speaking individuals are just their link to their assimilated common ancestors.
So they are ilirians epirots dardans ???

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Who's talking about 1.5k years ago? I'm not simply referring to a singular event of Slavs migrating down to the Balkans, I'm talking about Balkan Medieval history.

The study doesn't say what you imply it says. Clearly our neighbouring populations were affected greatly by us, but clearly we were also affected by them. Tosks were affected by the Slavs genetically, they have many times more genetic markers that are completely Slavic in origin. That's as much as I can understand from it because you don't speak English very well and you don't seem very capable of speaking in a logical manner. I'll say it again, Albanians share a lot of IBD with Poles, Tosks have quite a lot of Slavic Y-DNA. I.e., we're not pure, and especially not Tosks.

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Originally Posted by Herr Abubu

Who's talking about 1.5k years ago? I'm not simply referring to a singular event of Slavs migrating down to the Balkans, I'm talking about Balkan Medieval history.

The study doesn't say what you imply it says. Clearly our neighbouring populations were affected greatly by us, but clearly we were also affected by them. Tosks were affected by the Slavs genetically, they have many times more genetic markers that are completely Slavic in origin. That's as much as I can understand from it because you don't speak English very well and you don't seem very capable of speaking in a logical manner. I'll say it again, Albanians share a lot of IBD with Poles, Tosks have quite a lot of Slavic Y-DNA. I.e., we're not pure, and especially not Tosks.

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Do not project your familiar problems on half Albania.

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Originally Posted by Laberia

Looks like the movie Independence Day. Any scientific paper who prove this? Because there are many questions.

Insignificant, only in Opar, read here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ka#post4269557

We have discussed here about this maps of Hammond:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4173569
Let me quote here Hammond:
The problem i hope to deal with is how did the Albanians get from this remote part of Kurvelesh down to all parts of Greek peninsula and indeed the greek islands....
So according to Hammond this people arrived from Kurvelesh, not from Kelmendi. Well, a little bit strange this Hammond.
Anyway, at least someone with a theory. After many threads and 55 pages in this thread, Scholarios is without a theory.

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From the amount of Slavic toponyms you would expect Tosks to plot more north than they do if the Slavs indeed have stayed there. Low Slavic autosomal input supports southern migration of Albanians and massacre/expulsion of Slavs.