Tried to include it but gave up halfway through. Just too complex.Quote:
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Tried to include it but gave up halfway through. Just too complex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Demek ki yanlış hatırlıyorsun konu Türkiye'deki Türklerle alakalı bir konu değildiQuote:
Originally Posted by placebo
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Originally Posted by Gecko
Hazaralar tek bir kökenden gelmemekte bunu Y-DNA Haplogruplarına mTDNA Haplogruplarına ve genetik plotlarına bakıp söylemek için alim olmana gerek yok sadece aşiret adlarına bakarak da ne olduklarını anlayabiliyorsun ayrıca şunu da ekleyeyim:Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Myres et al. (2011), Di Cristofaro et al. (2013), and Lippold et al. (2014) all agree that the Y-DNA of 32% (8/25) of the HGDP sample of Pakistani Hazara should belong to haplogroup R-M478/M73. Myres et al. (2011) found a high frequency of R-M73 among their sample of Bashkirs from southeast Bashkortostan (77/329 = 23.4% R1b-M73) Besides the high frequency of R-M73 in southeastern Bashkirs, Myres et al. also reported finding R-M73 in the following samples: 10.3% (14/136) of Balkars from the northwest Caucasus, 9.4% (8/85) of the HGDP samples from northern Pakistan (these are the aforementioned Pakistani Hazaras), 5.8% (4/69) of Karachays from the northwest Caucasus, 2.6% (1/39) of Tatars from Bashkortostan, 1.9% (1/54) of Bashkirs from southwest Bashkortostan, 1.5% (1/67) of Megrels from the south Caucasus, 1.4% (1/70) of Bashkirs from north Bashkortostan, 1.3% (1/80) of Tatars from Kazan, 1.1% (1/89) of a sample from Cappadocia, Turkey, 0.7% (1/141) of Kabardians from the northwest Caucasus, 0.6% (3/522) of a pool of samples from Turkey, and 0.38% (1/263) of Russians from Central Russia.
Karafet et al. (2018) found R-M73 in 37.5% (15/40) of a sample of Teleuts from Bekovo, Kemerovo oblast, 4.5% (3/66) of a sample of Uyghurs from Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, 3.4% (1/29) of a sample of Kazakhs from Kazakhstan, 2.3% (3/129) of a sample of Selkups, 2.3% (1/44) of a sample of Turkmens from Turkmenistan, and 0.7% (1/136) of a sample of Iranians from Iran.[53] Four of these individuals (one of the Teleuts, one of the Uyghurs, the Kazakh, and the Iranian) appear to belong to the aforementioned cluster marked by DYS390=19 (the Kumandin-Mongol R-M73 cluster); the Teleut and the Uyghur also share the modal values at the DYS385 and the DYS389 loci. The Iranian differs from the modal for this cluster by having 13-16 (or 13-29) at DYS389 instead of 14-16 (or 14-30). The Kazakh differs from the modal by having 13–14 at DYS385 instead of 13-13. The other fourteen Teleuts and the three Selkups appear to belong to the Teleut-Shor-Khakassian R-M73 cluster from the data set of Malyarchuk et al. (2011); this cluster has the modal values of DYS390=22 (but 21 in the case of two Teleuts and one Khakassian), DYS385=13-16, and DYS389=13-17 (or 13–30, but 14–31 in the case of one Selkup).
A Kazakhstani paper published in 2017found haplogroup R1b-M478 Y-DNA in 3.17% (41/1294) of a sample of Kazakhs from Kazakhstan, with this haplogroup being observed with greater than average frequency among members of the Qypshaq(Kıpçak) (12/29 = 41.4%), Ysty (6/57 = 10.5%), Qongyrat (8/95 = 8.4%), Oshaqty (2/29 = 6.9%), Kerey (1/28 = 3.6%), and Jetyru (3/86 = 3.5%) tribes.[54] A Chinese paper published in 2018 found haplogroup R1b-M478 Y-DNA in 9.2% (7/76) of a sample of Dolan Uyghurs from Horiqol township, Awat County, Xinjiang.Spoiler!
Aşiret adları: Telew(Tiele), Qarlugh(Karluk, Qarluq), Turkmani(Turkoman, Turkmen), Uighur(Uygur), Yamood(Yomut), Qul Bars, Kyrgyz(Kırgız), Qazaq(Kazakh), Qipchak(Kıpchak)... vs
Kavim olarak Turco-Mongol(Türk-Moğol) olarak geçiyorlar çoğunun atası ya Moğol ya Türk onlara
demek Türkün adına bok sürmekten başka bir şey değildirQuote:
"Literally Iranified Mongols"
Historians lie genetics don't lieQuote:
No serious historian would say that Hazaras are of Turkic origin
Yeah yeah they were AAALLLLLLL Indo-Europeans and Mongols right ?Quote:
Putting everyone in Central Asia into your own ethnic sphere is a foolish behavior.
https://i.ibb.co/tQj5bmf/ejhg2010146f1a.jpg ?
?Spoiler!
Are Teleuts "Iranified Mongols" too ?
Edgü, weren't you banned? Why are you spamming again? Gecko won't respond, he dislikes you and Altayli as trolls and spammers. That's the message from him.
ONCE AGAIN: spamming and irrelevant stuff are NOT welcome. Old results that everyone knows are NOT welcome.
Ruski are you his message delivery boy now anyway i wasn't speaking with you why are you so mad ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
i am not posting old results also why he is disliking me i didn`t do bad things to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Okay, I'm giving up on this shit. My involvement is a mistake. :icon_neutral:
this is leto:
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Chechen (may not be new but just reuploaded)
Gedrosia 24.77 Pct
Siberian 3.36 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.6 Pct
North_European 24.26 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.23 Pct
East_Asian 0.77 Pct
Caucasus 40.98 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Shamil
4.32803651 Lak
4.87035933 Kubachi_Dagestan
5.00086992 Chechen
5.94732713 Avar
6.00028333 Kaitag_Dagestan
6.10476044 Lezgin
6.50283015 Tabasaran
7.11030238 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
7.26472986 Dargin
7.58137850 Kumyk
8.04443286 Ingush
9.91091822 Balkar
10.75999071 Karachay
10.90289870 Kabardin
11.48527753 Abazin
11.53861777 Circassian
11.65558664 Adyghe
12.22309290 Ossetian
12.61478894 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.53849029 Ossetian_South
Distance to: Shamil
2.43731358 19.60% Georgian_Svan + 80.40% Kaitag_Dagestan
2.57492271 72.60% Kaitag_Dagestan + 27.40% Ossetian_South
2.69955779 73.00% Avar + 27.00% Ossetian_South
2.72086708 21.60% Abkhazian + 78.40% Kaitag_Dagestan
2.75862948 17.20% Georgian_Mingrelian + 82.80% Kaitag_Dagestan
2.79940079 81.00% Avar + 19.00% Georgian_Svan
2.82049698 49.00% Chechen + 51.00% Kubachi_Dagestan
2.82712222 81.40% Lak + 18.60% Ossetian_South
2.86726384 18.20% Georgian_Gurian + 81.80% Kaitag_Dagestan
2.88075277 12.60% Georgian_Svan + 87.40% Lak
2.89072330 29.20% Balkar + 70.80% Kubachi_Dagestan
2.91647159 44.00% Avar + 56.00% Chechen
2.92941034 44.00% Chechen + 56.00% Lak
2.93043305 29.00% Ossetian_South + 71.00% Tabasaran
2.93275188 21.00% Abkhazian + 79.00% Avar
2.96331928 56.40% Chechen + 43.60% Kaitag_Dagestan
2.96542520 75.40% Kubachi_Dagestan + 24.60% Ossetian
2.96916124 27.20% Karachay + 72.80% Kubachi_Dagestan
2.97555947 14.00% Abkhazian + 86.00% Lak
3.00309235 18.40% Georgian + 81.60% Kaitag_Dagestan
I have 2 new matches! An Adyghe with high Atlantic_med + low gedrosia and a Pontic Greek
Adyghe
Y-DNA: G-FT69558
https://i.hizliresim.com/MdOm0a.png
Population
Gedrosia 16.36 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.51 Pct
North_European 17.78 Pct
South_Asian 1.6 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.42 Pct
East_Asian 2.81 Pct
Caucasus 48.37 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.16 Pct
Distance to: Tsey
5.70516433 Adyghe
6.32508498 Circassian
7.41047907 Abazin
7.78601952 Balkar
8.36037081 Kabardin
8.98400245 Ingush
10.36197375 Kumyk
10.52322669 Chechen
10.64259367 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.36466014 Abkhazian
13.07735830 Turk_Ahiska
13.27846000 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.08004616 Georgian
14.09384263 Turk_East
14.34365713 Udi
14.47506131 Georgian_Gurian
14.80860898 Georgian_Svan
15.19987171 Turk_Central_East
15.49218190 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.57255920 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
15.84852044 Armenian_East
16.19530488 Turk_West_BlackSea
16.21710517 Turk_East_Black_Sea
16.44082723 Georgian_Imereti
16.54613550 Turk_Central_West
Target: Tsey
Distance: 3.1946% / 3.19464357 | R2P
77.1 Georgian_Svan
22.9 Bavarian_German
Target: Tsey
Distance: 2.0265% / 2.02651780 | R3P
77.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
19.8 Danish
2.8 Japanese
Target: Tsey
Distance: 3.2063% / 3.20628689 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.8 Abkhazian
23.6 Circassian
18.3 Macedonian
12.3 Georgian_Gurian
Pontic Greek
Population
Gedrosia 15.24 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.33 Pct
North_European 5.57 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 55.61 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Panagiota
3.07920444 Hemshin
3.24041664 Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.94144644 Laz
3.97665689 Greek_Pontus
6.51153592 Turk_Ahiska
6.75635997 Armenian_East
7.10136607 Georgian_Adjara
8.55301117 Armenian_West
9.10047801 Georgian
9.31273322 Georgian_Imereti
10.62892281 Georgian_Gurian
10.94164521 Turk_East
11.62782439 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.93370856 Assyrian_West
12.00317458 Assyrian_North
12.12729566 Udi
12.25047346 Abkhazian
12.32007305 Azeri_Jew
12.38144176 Assyrian_South
13.18920392 Greek_Cappadocia
13.46349509 Georgian_Svan
15.26110088 Kurdish_Jew
15.71430877 Iranian_Jew
16.01822087 Iraqi_Jew
16.25132302 Ossetian_South
Target: Panagiota
Distance: 1.5447% / 1.54471940 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.4 Hemshin
26.0 Greek_Pontus
20.0 Georgian_Gurian
5.1 Coptic
1.5 Algerian
Target: Panagiota
Distance: 2.0666% / 2.06663068 | ADC: 0.5x RC
79.9 Hemshin
15.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.1 Coptic
Target: Panagiota
Distance: 1.9173% / 1.91725571 | R2P
91.0 Laz
9.0 Coptic
Turk from Denizli & Mugla
Gedrosia: 11.69
Siberian: 6.11
NW_African: 5.41
SE_Asian: 0.15
Atlantic_Med: 15.48
North_European: 12.57
South_Asia: 1.10
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 11.67
East_Asian: 6.31
Caucasus: 29.66
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: TurkDenizliMugla
6.63168154 Turk_Northwest
7.62369989 Turk_Southwest
9.31989270 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.25469161 Turk_Central_West
10.98103365 Turk_South
11.89706266 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.81429280 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.40276837 Turk_Central_East
13.98695464 Turk_Southeast
14.75227101 Greek_Lemnos
14.90793748 Greek_Fournoi
15.05139528 Moldavian_Jewish
15.09159700 Greek_Crete
15.59944871 Italian_Sicily
15.64137142 Italian_Apulia
15.77167715 Ashkenazi_Jews
15.83056853 Turk_Cyprus
16.13377823 Azerbaijani
16.16880639 Greek_Izmir
16.29992638 Turk_Trakya
16.35363568 Greek_Kos
16.38210609 Italian_Calabria
16.90464433 Greek_Foca
16.96857095 Azerbaijani_Turkey
17.05322550 Italian_Jews
Target: TurkDenizliMugla
Distance: 1.8612% / 1.86118327 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.2 Turk_Northwest
8.9 Algerian
8.6 Morocco_Jews
6.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.9 Nogai_Astrakhan
1.9 Kuwait2
0.2 Saudi