Serbian Autosomal DNA

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04-19-2020, 09:33 PM
vbnetkhio

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

^^^^Why without Montenegrins? Montenegrins who identify as Serbs need to be included in Serb average to make it as realistic as possible.

doesn't change much

Serb,24.96,29.31,17.20,8.97,15.66,1.66,0.45,0.28,0 .67,0.42,0.30,0.08,0.04

Quote:

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

from kits with confirmed ancestry only:

samples populaton North_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian Northeast_African Sub_Saharan

131 Serb (without Montenegrins) 25.07 29.92 17.03 8.75 15.35 1.59 0.48 0.29 0.67 0.43 0.30 0.08 0.04

58 Serb_Croatia 25.17 29.66 17.32 8.73 15.33 1.64 0.49 0.29 0.56 0.39 0.29 0.08 0.04

22 Serb_B&H 25.30 30.82 16.62 8.39 14.73 1.89 0.35 0.32 0.75 0.43 0.35 0.06 0.02

29 Serb_Serbia 24.62 29.72 16.84 8.78 16.34 1.32 0.52 0.30 0.66 0.49 0.27 0.05 0.04

20 Montenegrin 24.50 25.37 18.42 10.26 17.24 2.30 0.15 0.23 0.79 0.39 0.26 0.02 0.06

Code:

Serb,25.07,29.92,17.03,8.75,15.35,1.59,0.48,0.29,0.67,0.43,0.30,0.08,0.04 Serb_Croatia,25.17,29.66,17.32,8.73,15.33,1.64,0.49,0.29,0.56,0.39,0.29,0.08,0.04 Serb_B&H,25.30,30.82,16.62,8.39,14.73,1.89,0.35,0.32,0.75,0.43,0.35,0.06,0.02 Serb_Serbia,24.62,29.72,16.84,8.78,16.34,1.32,0.52,0.30,0.66,0.49,0.27,0.05,0.04 Montenegrin,24.50,25.37,18.42,10.26,17.24,2.30,0.15,0.23,0.79,0.39,0.26,0.02,0.06

They're all remarkably homogenous, except for Montenegro which is now an independent country.

This stuff should be used for Vahaduo.

04-20-2020, 01:04 AM
Terminator98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

They're all remarkably homogenous, except for Montenegro which is now an independent country.

This stuff should be used for Vahaduo.

Their "independence" is a political thing of their president (who is in power for almost 30 years) and I agree with Feiichi, they should be included in the Serbian average, because majority of people in Montenegro consider themselves as Serbs.
04-20-2020, 08:08 AM
Dušan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

They're all remarkably homogenous, except for Montenegro which is now an independent country.

This stuff should be used for Vahaduo.

Yes, as I always said, we are pretty homogeneous people, no matter from what geographic region came.

Good results as always vbnetkhio, still, I think that average for Serbs from Krajina ("croatia") is a bit more northern. I dont know what samples you used, but this is my Krajina Serb average.

Krajina_Serb_average,24.71,31.76,16.79,8.22,14.62, 1.55,0.43,0.22,0.81,0.56,0.38,0.03,0.03
04-20-2020, 08:23 AM
ezyeez

These are my results. 3/4 Serbian 1/4 Croatian ancestry

North_Atlantic 29.01 Pct
Baltic 29.62 Pct
West_Med 13.46 Pct
West_Asian 7.43 Pct
East_Med 15.55 Pct
Red_Sea 2.64 Pct
South_Asian 1.06 Pct
East_Asian 0.48 Pct
Amerindian 0.62 Pct
Oceanian 0.05 Pct
Northeast_African 0.06 Pct
04-20-2020, 08:28 AM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dušan

Yes, as I always said, we are pretty homogeneous people, no matter from what geographic region came.

Good results as always vbnetkhio, still, I think that average for Serbs from Krajina ("croatia") is a bit more northern. I dont know what samples you used, but this is my Krajina Serb average.

Krajina_Serb_average,24.71,31.76,16.79,8.22,14.62, 1.55,0.43,0.22,0.81,0.56,0.38,0.03,0.03

You won't like how you guys plot xD

Distance to: Krajina_Serb_average

1.55862119 Bosniak
1.58278236 Croat_Herzegovina
1.59414554 Croat_Dalmatia
1.94927420 Serbian
1.97547463 Serb_Croatia
2.20432246 Serbian_Bosnia
2.25107145 Bosniak_Sarajevo
2.46617112 Croat_BiH
2.83441352 Croat_Tropolje
3.05137674 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.10650930 Croat_Bosnia
3.52513830 Croat_Lika-Senj
4.01778546 Romanian_Botosani
4.43603426 Szekely_Hungarian
4.50277692 Serb_Belgrade
4.87246344 Romanian_Average
5.24254709 Croat
5.26837736 Moldavian
5.52844463 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.79063900 Bulgarian_Pleven
5.84425359 Croat_Croatia
5.98047657 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.12058004 Croat_Zagreb
6.32412840 Bosniak_Tuzla
6.37733487 Csango_Gymes
04-20-2020, 08:30 AM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terminator98

Their "independence" is a political thing of their president (who is in power for almost 30 years) and I agree with Feiichi, they should be included in the Serbian average, because majority of people in Montenegro consider themselves as Serbs.

Yes, and it will help make distinction between Croats and Serbs which is in interest of most people here. Without Montenegrins it will be too close.
04-20-2020, 08:33 AM
Dušan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

Yes, and it will help make distinction between Croats and Serbs which is in interest of most people here. Without Montenegrins it will be too close.

Why don't you add more ph2ter kajkavian samples, and we will be far far away?
They are more than 30% of Croats, and they are underrepresented because of that Herzegovina Catholic Serbs you added.
04-20-2020, 08:34 AM
Jana

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dušan

Why don't you add more ph2ter kajkavian samples, and we will be far far away?
They are more than 30% of Croats, and they are underrepresented because of that Herzegovina Catholic Serbs you added.

I added them to general average which is just ''Croat'' and Croat_Croatia. Also included central region which is similar to them.
Ex-Catholic orthodox Vlach like you should keep quiet. Unlike your ancestors. Herzegovina Croats remained Catholic.
04-20-2020, 08:35 AM
Dušan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Est.1992

You won't like how you guys plot xD

Distance to: Krajina_Serb_average

1.55862119 Bosniak
1.58278236 Croat_Herzegovina
1.59414554 Croat_Dalmatia
1.94927420 Serbian
1.97547463 Serb_Croatia
2.20432246 Serbian_Bosnia
2.25107145 Bosniak_Sarajevo
2.46617112 Croat_BiH
2.83441352 Croat_Tropolje
3.05137674 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
3.10650930 Croat_Bosnia
3.52513830 Croat_Lika-Senj
4.01778546 Romanian_Botosani
4.43603426 Szekely_Hungarian
4.50277692 Serb_Belgrade
4.87246344 Romanian_Average
5.24254709 Croat
5.26837736 Moldavian
5.52844463 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.79063900 Bulgarian_Pleven
5.84425359 Croat_Croatia
5.98047657 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.12058004 Croat_Zagreb
6.32412840 Bosniak_Tuzla
6.37733487 Csango_Gymes

Yes, Muslim and Catholic Serb apostates.
Still Krajina Serba are very very far away from kaykavian NW Croats.

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samples	populaton	North_Atlantic	Baltic	West_Med	West_Asian	East_Med	Red_Sea	South_Asian	East_Asian	Siberian	Amerindian	Oceanian	Northeast_African	Sub_Saharan

131	Serb (without Montenegrins)	25.07	29.92	17.03	8.75	15.35	1.59	0.48	0.29	0.67	0.43	0.30	0.08	0.04
58	Serb_Croatia	25.17	29.66	17.32	8.73	15.33	1.64	0.49	0.29	0.56	0.39	0.29	0.08	0.04
22	Serb_B&H	25.30	30.82	16.62	8.39	14.73	1.89	0.35	0.32	0.75	0.43	0.35	0.06	0.02
29	Serb_Serbia	24.62	29.72	16.84	8.78	16.34	1.32	0.52	0.30	0.66	0.49	0.27	0.05	0.04

20	Montenegrin	24.50	25.37	18.42	10.26	17.24	2.30	0.15	0.23	0.79	0.39	0.26	0.02	0.06