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03-23-2021, 07:16 PM
Dr_Maul

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Originally Posted by Leto

Many? There's not many Caucasians on TA and those who claim they are Caucasians are oftentimes some shady trolls. They never post about genetics, so I don't give a rat's ass about those socks. And that statement of yours is debatable IMO. That'd mean Dagestan is supposed to be the darkest of all.

There was a map posted here by a Georgian member if I am not mistaken, a Russian anthropology one. I am not sure if it was hair or eyes or both, but it was a clear gradient with the darkest in Lankaran (southeast Azerbaijan, talysh) and the highest % of lightness in Circassia and Adygea. Maybe you know what map I refer to
03-23-2021, 07:31 PM
Sterling Archer

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Originally Posted by RatCat

There isn't a huge difference between Caucasians in terms of pigmentation but if we compare on average Western ones are lighter, with Western Georgians being the lightest in the whole Caucasus. Btw don't think they are majority light, they are the lightest but they are %16-18 light on average. I'll leave some studies that made on this subject.

This is indeed true. Differences are not very pronounced. I'd say only Talysh would be clearly different, otherwise phenotype is surprisingly similar, with some regional variations.

PS. Once in the Saint Petersburg metro this drunk Russian guy asked me where I was from, and having learned that I was from Azerbaijan, started objecting that I look just like his Mingrelian friend, so I must be Georgian. Couldn't shake him off, so I was very relieved when I arrived at the next station and could gtfo. As I was leaving the carriage he shouted Грузин! (Georgian!) after me. One the most akward moments of my life :)
03-23-2021, 07:31 PM
Sterling Archer

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03-23-2021, 08:14 PM
Leto

I don't consider the Azerbaijanis and the Armenians Caucasian. The Armenian homeland extends deep into modern Turkey which is not part of the Caucasus and Iran has probably more Azerbaijanis than the eponymous country. So to me the Caucasus is Georgia and the Caucasian Federal District of Russia.
03-23-2021, 08:48 PM
Sterling Archer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

I don't consider the Azerbaijanis and the Armenians Caucasian. The Armenian homeland extends deep into modern Turkey which is not part of the Caucasus and Iran has probably more Azerbaijanis than the eponymous country. So to me the Caucasus is Georgia and the Caucasian Federal District of Russia.

https://i.imgur.com/6PKKbEL.jpg
03-24-2021, 06:41 AM
Altaylı

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Many? There's not many Caucasians on TA and those who claim they are Caucasians are oftentimes some shady trolls. They never post about genetics, so I don't give a rat's ass about those socks. And that statement of yours is debatable IMO. That'd mean Dagestan is supposed to be the darkest of all.

Everyone is Troll except Leto:dizzy::dizzy:
03-24-2021, 07:54 AM
Mejgusu

Here were always discussions between members, but at least they had, even a bit, a connection to this topic. But it seems some members like to spam this thread regularly.

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Originally Posted by Altaylı

Everyone is Troll except Leto:dizzy::dizzy:

Even you are not a troll, this kind of comments are annoying. Personally i don’t have a problem if someone is posting known samples like you, at least it keeps this thread alive. But posting nonsense like this is ridiculous and it lowers the level of this thread.
03-24-2021, 08:11 AM
Sterling Archer

Someone from Ardahan and Posof. First I thought he is an Ahiska Turk, but the results would seem to suggest that he is a Georgian from Turkey.

Gedrosia 16.73 Pct
Siberian 0.82 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.22 Pct
North_European 8.65 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.71 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 58.51 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ardahan
3.66096982 Georgian_Imereti
3.78681925 Georgian
4.29507858 Georgian_Gurian
5.22372472 Laz
5.32589899 Georgian_Mingrelian
5.63403053 Georgian_Adjara
5.98845556 Hemshin
6.28606395 Turk_Ahiska
7.10367511 Abkhazian
7.28967763 Georgian_Svan
7.84325188 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.55659458 Greek_Pontus
11.26007549 Armenian_East
12.38659760 Ossetian_South
14.17104442 Armenian_West
14.21759825 Turk_East
14.32207387 Udi
15.12281389 Ossetian
15.37025699 Adyghe
17.31802240 Assyrian_North
17.47564877 Azeri_Jew
17.53359917 Assyrian_West
17.85391834 Assyrian_South
17.93393989 Circassian
18.03973115 Karachay
03-24-2021, 08:16 AM
Sterling Archer

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Originally Posted by Kyp

From a small Azerbaijani community in Central Anatolia (Afyon). Their ancestry is from the Javanshir clan of the Afshar tribe (Ruling clan of the Karabakh Khanate):

This is very interesting. Do these people still retain their distinct identity?
03-24-2021, 08:22 AM
Altaylı

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Originally Posted by Gecko

Here were always discussions between members, but at least they had, even a bit, a connection to this topic. But it seems some members like to spam this thread regularly.

Even you are not a troll, this kind of comments are annoying. Personally i don’t have a problem if someone is posting known samples like you, at least it keeps this thread alive. But posting nonsense like this is ridiculous and it lowers the level of this thread.

Leto attacked to me many times for nonsense but no one said something to him bu yüzden ona musallat oldum postlarımı görmezden gel bana diyordun ya pm den sende yapabilirsin

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