"Proto-Iranians were not Northern Europeans"

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Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes

You a tryhard, but you take L regardless.

Jasz language may extinct, but genetic is preserved in the Central European Noble Houses, ie House of Dragos. I don't think my Grandparents choose my Father first name "Jasz" as lottery random choice? What do you think?

I close with my Uncle GEDmatch:

80.9% Belarusian + 19.1% Ossetian @ 2.57

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You get modeled as a West Asian-shifted North Slav which isn't too different from other Hungarians (marginally different to other Hungarians at best).

The Ossetians are genetically indistinguishable from other Caucasians. So if you want to base it purely on genetics and nothing else (which I don't agree with), then it's questionable if the Ossetians are even Iranic. Ossetians have little to no direct Proto-Iranic blood and you barely have any Ossetian blood. You (like every every other Hungarian) would have much more Proto-Germanic and especially Proto-Slavic blood than Proto-Iranic blood. Even if there is a direct Proto-Iranic (not to be confused with Ossetian) genetic component among the Jasz, it is insignificant.

Finally, you don't even speak Iranic. So that puts you in the same basket as a hypothetical Catalan claiming to be Germanic and not Romance. If you went "back" to Ossetia today you would be a complete alien and treated no differently to any other Hungarian/European.

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Originally Posted by Token

No such thing as Iranic identity today, your 'Iranic identity' was wiped out by Arabs and their Islam. You guys utterly failed at preserving the beautiful culture that Northern Europeans gave you.

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Actually this BS has been disproven many times before. Arabs just "influenced" us to change our religion. They did this by defeating armies of one Persian family called Sassanid. Kudos to them. It has been proven COUNTLESS times that there was no Arabic genetic input into modern day Iran by that single Invasion. Penninsulan Arabs came, changed our religion to Islam and left within a century. No genetic or cultural change happened. We still speak persian, celebrate Nowroz etc. Qureshi, Hashmi Arabs that invaded Iran had J-M267 haplogroups. Among Iranians, only 3 % J-M267 peninsula haplogroup exists. That 3% itself represents Assyrians, Jews who live in Iran etc. Here is a EUROPE PMC detailed research paper on the subject.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3312577/

And by the way why are you taking name of Arabs like they are some lower slave race. Arabs are warriors with heritage. No matter what their beliefs have been, they have achieved far greater than Germans. They implemented their belief system (call it crazy or whatever) on literally close to 2 billion people now. They conquered almost everyone they met in field. Arabs invaded Spain, they invaded parts of Gaul 6000 KM away from their desert homeland. I mean that is fucking crazy military achievement, is not it ? Yes the peninsula long nosed Arab warriors that holly"Jew"wood shows as some retarded maniac today, they did it. You can run your mouth all day long but this won't change the fact that MENA groups are martial warriors Be it ARABS, IRANICS or TURKS. If you are a respectful human being you will respect that. As an Iranian, I am probably supposed to hate arabs but I am a rational human being coming from a respectful household, I am not taught to disrespect others. May be your built is different. I respect European people for their achievements and I acknowledge their massive contribution to modern day world but you Sir are coming across as a stupid bigot.

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Originally Posted by MS85

Dude, you have only some minor ancestry of the EAST Iranic Alan. Hungarian Finno-Ugric Atilla the Hun had many Alan warriors in his army. Maybe some of them were assimilated by the Magyar. That doesn't make Magyar Alan or Ossetians, lol. You have only a very small part of EAST Iranic people. But that doesn't make you anything close to proto-Iranic (ARYAN) people from Kurdistan.

You are much more (Finno-Ugric) MAGYAR than EAST Iranian.

Proto-Iranic had ergativity in it. Even today NorthWest Iranic (ARYAN) language of the Kurds, Kurdish has ergative construction in it. Ergativity is native to West Asia and is absent in aboriginal Mongoloid languages in the Steppes.

ERGATIVITY in proto-Indo-Iranian makes proto-Indo-Iranian and therefore proto-Iranic, proto-West Iranic, NATIVE to the Iranian Plateau.

The Medes spoke NorthWest Iranian language. The Mitanni/Kassites spoke proto-Iranic lanaguage. All of them lived in Kurdistan and the ancient DNA of their era and the region where they lived show no Mongoloid Steppes ancestry at all.

My ARYAN people speak the same ARYAN language of the mighty Mitanni and the magnificent Medes. We have the same ARYAN religion as the legendary Mitanni! Our ARYAN DNA is from them (Mitanni/Medes). Your people speak Finno-Ugric Magyar, lol!


ARYANISM FOREVER, b!tch$s!

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There is already Iranian government officials that added me in Facebook, they purpose to preserve Iranian tradition and we discuss all about my origin. Walahi fam.

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Originally Posted by MS85

Ancient Mitanni/Kassites in Kurdistan spoke Aryan and were Aryans. Ancient Medes in Kurdistan were ARYANS and were called ARYANS.

None of them had Mongoloid Steppes ancestry. We have got ancient DNA of their era and from their ARYAN region. Those ancient ARYAN folks were bloody ARYAN KURDS! These are FACTS!

ARYANISM FOREVER, b!tch$s!

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Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes

There is already Iranian government officials that added me in Facebook, they purpose to preserve Iranian tradition and we discuss all about my origin. Walahi fam.

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Just wait for some years. You should join Kurdistan Government in North Kurdistan soon. Great Kurdistan will be liberated sooner than you think. We have got Turks on their knees and the Turks are in the corner they can't get out


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This thread could have becomes a great source of information but because of bigotry it has turned into another Troll fest.

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Originally Posted by Token

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Wannabe ARYAN, did i hurt your feelings?

I rule your world and you have nothing to counter my arguments.


Do you feel the power/energy of the real full blooded ARYAN?

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Originally Posted by Mingle

You get modeled as a West Asian-shifted North Slav which isn't too different from other Hungarians (marginally different to other Hungarians at best).

The Ossetians are genetically indistinguishable from other Caucasians. So if you want to base it purely on genetics and nothing else (which I don't agree with), then it's questionable if the Ossetians are even Iranic. Ossetians have little to no direct Proto-Iranic blood and you barely have any Ossetian blood. You (like every every other Hungarian) would have much more Proto-Germanic and especially Proto-Slavic blood than Proto-Iranic blood. Even if there is a direct Proto-Iranic (not to be confused with Ossetian) genetic component among the Jasz, it is insignificant.

Finally, you don't even speak Iranic. So that puts you in the same basket as a hypothetical Catalan claiming to be Germanic and not Romance. If you went "back" to Ossetia today you would be a complete alien and treated no differently to any other Hungarian/European.

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I'm not Hungarian, culturally I'm Vlach Jasz as my forefathers, ethnically Polish Szlachta.

There is people like me that live in eastern Hungary particularly Szeged, they are cousins. We are not Hungarians, my ancestors founded Moldova in 1320 AD, we are simply Voivoda to the Hungarian Monarch, our region ofcourse belong to Kingdom of Hungary.

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Originally Posted by Token

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What happens if I'm lighter than my supposed ancestor? Does he become my descendant?

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Originally Posted by meson

This thread could have becomes a great source of information but because of bigotry it has turned into another Troll fest.

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Right, I try be civilian here and I usually not fam.