R1a-z93 in Kyrgyz people. Explanation?

60 percent of kyrgz people still carrying that genes,the rest mongolized robustly

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

Under Stalin, Turkics have been deported many times to Siberian deaths. The Nogais, the Crimean Tatars and the Giray clan (who were murdered by Ottomans after losing the last of their land) have never developed a means to fight the modern and larger industrialized Russians in the 18th and 19th centuries, and they were therefore pushed out by superior numbers, technology, and fire power.

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I don't feel sorry for the C. Tatars, those fuckers raided and pillaged Russian lands for 3 centuries before Catherine the Great finally put an end to that. I believe over 2 million slaves were captured and sold to the Ottomans and elsewhere. Generally I don't feel sorry for any Muslims, I actually think Russian tsars and emperors were way too tolerant and lenient towards Muslims. If I were them, I would have mercilessly extinguished all the fucking Muzzrats just like the Spanish did in the Reconquista. We allowed them to be who they are and now it's increasingly backfiring. Let's not go deeper into that topic though.

60 percent of kyrgyz people still carries that genes,the rest mongolized robustly.

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Originally Posted by Friedrich Ulrich

60 percent of kyrgz people still carries that genes,the rest mongolized robustly.

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There is J2 in Kyrgyzstan in a small but existing number.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I don't feel sorry for the C. Tatars, those fuckers raided and pillaged Russian lands for 3 centuries before Catherine the Great finally put an end to that. I believe over 2 million slaves were captured and sold to the Ottomans and elsewhere. Generally I don't feel sorry for any Muslims, I actually think Russian tsars and emperors were way too tolerant and lenient towards Muslims. If I were them, I would have mercilessly extinguished all the fucking Muzzrats just like the Spanish did in the Reconquista. We allowed them to be who they are and now it's increasingly backfiring. Let's not go deeper into that topic though.

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I'm not saying you need to feel sorry for anyone. I wrote more than that about other things, but I guess that will just be the focus of this point. Basically you just have a particular hatred for Turkic raiders like Hitler did for Slavs at-large. However, you have pivoted to talking about Muslims. This is a far larger group than just some Central Asian Turkics, so are you advocating for an Orthodox Crusade into Jerusalem and down to Mecca to get the Arabs and Israelites?

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

The problem is that when people hear "Mongol" or "Turkic", several jump to the image of a very Sinic-looking Chinese man in their head as the representation. They ignore the Sinicization effects from the Mongol and other East Asian phenotype invasions westward and just use the populations there today as reference.

For example, this is an Altai felt picture of a Scythian from the border of Mongolia (very important because this is how they made themselves look, not a foreign source) and it is the oldest known image of the Hungarian mustache.

https://i.imgur.com/E5i4dNX.jpg

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That guy is supposed to have been Scythian, I believe. Pazyryk culture.

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

I'm not saying you need to feel sorry for anyone. I wrote more than that about other things, but I guess that will just be the focus of this point. Basically you just have a particular hatred for Turkic raiders like Hitler did for Slavs at-large. However, you have pivoted to talking about Muslims. This is a far larger group than just some Central Asian Turkics, so are you advocating for an Orthodox Crusade into Jerusalem and down to Mecca to get the Arabs and Israelites?

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Nope. It would be enough to deport them from white and Christian countries. :cool: Obviously we cannot change every country in the world imposing our will upon them.

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Originally Posted by Leto

That guy is supposed to have been Scythian, I believe. Pazyryk culture.

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That's what I said about the ethnicity.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Nope. It would be enough to deport them from white and Christian countries. :cool: Obviously we cannot change every country in the world imposing our will upon them.

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As opposed to sending them to white Muslim countries? Or do you think being a Muslim means not being white, and therefore white is a behavior rather than a biology classification? What about all of the non-Turkic Muslim Crimean peoples?

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

As opposed to sending them to white Muslim countries? Or do you think being a Muslim means not being white, and therefore white is a behavior rather than a biology classification? What about all of the non-Turkic Muslim Crimean peoples?

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I don't want to continue this conversation. And yes, most Muslims aren't white, like 98% or so.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I don't want to continue this conversation. And yes, most Muslims aren't white, like 98% or so.

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Ok, that's fine. However, I disagree that somehow religion=race. I'm sure you wouldn't think an Orthodox Somalian who believes 100% the same things you do would be considered white or European, so a Bulgarian, Gaugaz, etc Muslim not being "white" for being Muslim is just as odd to me.