many of them have more ME ancestry than north africansQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
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many of them have more ME ancestry than north africansQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
For central europeans countries and balkans maybe better add yamnaya also because they get higher distances?
https://i.imgur.com/dAw47Kn.png
in the case of greeks try levant_PPNB, Devil's cave gate and yamnaya BGRQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Nah, I think the old Rocinante model with ancient components itīs better and more accurate than yours, but itīs ok.
Adamm did a very similar one, maybe mixing those 3 models...
I told you I made this model for north africans certainly not central and east europeans lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Maybe, but most of your components are quite mixed so probably these results are not accurate, i doubt that North Italians have so ME as this indicates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilcar
I cannot have more WHG than my mother, and my mother cannot have more Mar_EN than my father or me for example, and my mother should have scored some Levant also.
So beautiful model, but you will have work more in it.
But Italians get also very good distances, but I donīt think those results define them well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilcar
But of course, I could be wrong, I donīt know a lot about ancient references (still).
It's not about that I don't trust you. What I'm referring to is that ''scaled overestimate the difference between East Eurasian and West Eurasian. Despite it might be good while using the ADMIXTURE method it is definitely worse on single population sharing'', to quote Kaspias, who is the most knowledgeable member about Turkish genetics here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamilcar
Because of the East Eurasian of Turks, even those in the west are getting plotted in the Caucasus, while they are very similar to the Islanders that live near them.
Just look at my scaled as an example. There's no way that I'm closer to Caucasians, Ezids, Roma's from Madrid and Kurds, who are miles far than to Greek_Kos or Greek_Central_Anatolia (basically Indigenous Anatolians) next door.
Code:Distance to: Hapanuwa_scaled
0.02957951 Turkish_North
0.02998560 Turkish_Central
0.03074841 Turkish_Istanbul
0.03099855 Turkish_Aydin
0.03200710 Turkish_Balikesir
0.03259897 Turkish_Northwest
0.03457727 Turkish_Southwest
0.03858439 Turkish_Adana
0.03908261 Turkish_South
0.04022503 Turkish_Kayseri
0.05293618 Turkish_Rumeli
0.05542821 Azeri
0.05779079 Azeri_Turkey
0.05872379 Turkish_East
0.05883111 Kumyk
0.05898135 Kabardin
0.06145890 Azeri_Dagestan
0.06509345 Abazin
0.06514907 Cherkes
0.06530046 Karachay
0.06560158 Circassian
0.06685415 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06692696 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.06813410 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.06916515 Turkish_Deliorman
0.07074870 Balkar
0.07075192 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07181428 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07299873 Ezid
0.07374110 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.07460248 Roma_Madrid
0.07530668 Adygei
0.07640529 Greek_Crete
0.07671711 Ingushian
0.07757843 Iranian_Fars
0.07772325 Kurdish
0.07810150 Greek_Kos
0.07835223 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.07870179 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07903267 North_Ossetian
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Originally Posted by Hapanuwa
why does it surprise you if you have east eurasian admixture + way more west asian admixture ?? Also by following your logic that would makes north africans closer to europeans than middle easterners which is ridiculous
I'm not surprised, I'm simply explaining to you why I think that it is unfair to claim that the great majority of Turks are closer to Syrians than to Greeks when you use scaled, which is not a good representative when you're using it for singe population sharing. If you want to look for the distance for Turks, unscaled is clearly a better fit. I mean many of those near the Aegean coast have actual Greek heritage but would get better distances to Syrians and Caucasians, while the East Eurasian is the only thing seperating them from the Greek IslandersQuote:
Originally Posted by Hamilcar
I don't know enough about North Africans, so I won't talk about that but it wouldn't surprise me if there are people who are closer to (South) Europeans (Iberians in particular) than the ME.