G25 European Meta-Ethnic Calculator

Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 2.4310% / 0.02431028 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Slavic
28.8 Paleo-Balkan
24.2 Roman

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

It's erroneous to say those Celtic components represent British & Irish admixture though as they don't. You would need Bronze Age British samples to represent actual British & Irish.

Code:

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England_CA_EBA,0.124636,0.125926,0.061576,0.062106,0.031134,0.019724,0.004296,0.004654,-0.000216,-0.004323,-0.004872,0.005928,-0.011678,-0.015398,0.025123,0.010342,-0.003593,0.000718,0.002905,0.006107,0.005359,0.002899,-0.000383,0.003294,-0.001058
England_EMBA,0.125205,0.129988,0.060716,0.06137,0.029236,0.020359,0.012691,0.002077,0.002659,-0.005103,-0.002273,0.003447,-0.010406,-0.01445,0.029587,-0.005834,-0.020601,0.008868,0.003017,0.001,0.002371,-0.001484,-0.008134,0.008435,0.003832
England_IA,0.13175,0.130749,0.060151,0.048046,0.035083,0.02015,0.004818,0.003692,0.004244,0.004191,-0.004425,0.005732,-0.010518,-0.018476,0.018017,0.010044,0.001206,-6.3e-05,0.003331,0.003908,0.003899,0.000247,-0.001202,0.011417,0.000449
England_LBA,0.119514,0.116786,0.056945,0.05814,0.031698,0.018686,0.00235,-0.003461,0.004909,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.003447,-0.025718,-0.004817,0.019544,0.02148,0.00352,-0.000253,-0.000126,0.006128,0.005989,-0.00272,-0.001602,0.012291,-0.004311
England_MBA,0.127013,0.129092,0.063068,0.059755,0.034178,0.019916,0.001493,0.004927,0.004596,-0.001394,-0.004738,0.003967,-0.01115,-0.015657,0.024677,0.009157,-0.005952,0.00307,0.000983,0.003987,0.004698,0.004713,-0.000638,0.005834,-0.001205
England_Roman,0.127482,0.136806,0.059585,0.049465,0.03715,0.017052,0.003659,0.005241,0.003009,0.00315,-0.005382,0.007108,-0.014208,-0.01276,0.021967,0.001762,-0.008382,0.001122,0.003951,0.003805,0.005259,0.001661,-0.003504,0.007195,-0.000239
England_Saxon,0.132462,0.13405,0.063875,0.056929,0.041162,0.020568,0.006257,0.006894,0.003988,-0.002415,-0.004933,0.004552,-0.009291,-0.012455,0.024243,0.011237,-0.00308,0.001504,0.005201,0.006659,0.005334,0.002473,-0.001648,0.016644,-0.000868

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This is what I get using 0.5 with these samples added.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.9439% / 0.00943869 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.0 England_Roman
21.8 England_Saxon
15.2 Germanic

I think Creoda might be better at suggesting some samples but Continental Celtic is definitely not representing British & Irish ancestry. It represents Continental Celtic ancestry.

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At this point we are creating a frankenstein calculator. The whole concept of this calculator is flawed since it used at least one bronze age sample as only Iron Age and medieval age samples should be used to infer modern ethnicity. England Iron age is sufficient for British Celtic and English Anglo-Saxon I think has some samples that were mixed with British celts like modern British people so some individual samples would be ideal instead but I'm not sure.

At the end of the day not to highjack the thread but Davidski modeled the British isles pretty well here. A newer more vetted version might be able to be made with new viking samples. Even with less than ideal samples it seems more or less correct. This is how it is done you take Iron age and medeival age samples or you focus on one such period like here you don't just go throwing in Denmark Bronze Age willy nilly style etc... :

My results :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080509
64.0 England_Saxon
34.0 England_Roman
2.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

Code:

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England_Roman:3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.057171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141,-0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997,-0.012785,-0.009358,0.014115,0.001061,-0.007953,0.003041,0.002011,-0.006753,0.005865,0.005935,-0.001479,0.007953,-0.000479
England_Roman:6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.050388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538,-0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589,-0.017393,-0.020368,0.023887,0.006762,-0.005346,-0.003041,0.012444,0.001,0.007986,0.000866,-0.00419,0.013857,-0.003353
England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.047804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.045866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
England_Roman:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.046512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225,0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.059109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.053618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0.004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.003645,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.059432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.00037,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.071383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.051034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227,0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.000863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.050388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084,0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.004777,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.062339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015183,0.001916
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001,0.133173,0.125926,0.076933,0.061047,0.041238,0.021196,0.002585,0.006461,0.000205,-0.012028,-0.000974,0.004046,-0.000297,-0.006331,0.018051,0.013259,0.009648,0.001647,-0.000754,0.00075,0.002371,0.000371,0.005176,0.012893,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005,0.127482,0.120848,0.072784,0.070414,0.042777,0.031794,0.00611,0.014307,0.009817,-0.022051,-0.001461,-0.001349,0.00892,0.012386,0.012893,-0.007558,-0.01708,0.002027,0.00176,0.001626,0.001497,0.00507,0.006902,-0.000241,0.00467
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.002077,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt035,0.130897,0.136081,0.07203,0.047158,0.036622,0.019801,0.00188,0.004154,0.009613,-0.000547,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.011893,-0.01101,0.022937,0.002387,-0.001695,0.004561,-0.004651,0,0.006364,0.002473,0.001972,0.007109,0.002036
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036,0.132035,0.133034,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.011999,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.118817,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.012692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.008796,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.094444,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.015922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.120848,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.019153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.138112,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.116786,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.013153,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.122879,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.003461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.128972,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.126941,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.015692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.01017,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0.002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.121864,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.016615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.012256,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003113

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My original from this thread :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.4894% / 0.02489366
56.0 Germanic
44.0 Celtic

I get a closer distance with the British isles calculator from Davidski !


Anyway, you want a multi-ethnic one ? It has already been done but it is bit more multi-culti. Is it perfect ? Nothing made by man is :

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...val-calculator

The original one here :

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Nicola-Iron-Age.htm

With the ancient British samples....

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
29.0 Slavic
15.0 Celtic
12.8 Roman

Non-aggregated

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1371% / 0.02137059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
43.2 England_IA
21.4 Slavic:Ukrainian
9.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
7.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
7.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
5.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
5.0 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


W/O recalculating

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.1612% / 0.02161166 | ADC: 0.25x
43.0 England_IA
28.2 Slavic
19.6 Celtic
9.2 Roman

Looks quite accurate :) and the distance is lower than before :D

with ancient brit samples:

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Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.6090% / 0.01609045 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.4 England_Saxon
42.6 Celtic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5347% / 0.01534742 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.6 England_Saxon
27.2 Celtic
9.0 Roman
6.2 Slavic

Target: drb_scaled
Distance: 1.5328% / 0.01532760
56.0 England_Saxon
24.0 Celtic
11.6 Roman
7.6 Slavic
0.8 England_LBA

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i would lump slavic in with germanic, roman with celtic etc.

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.8888% / 0.02888829
54.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
18.0 Roman:DEU_Roman
14.4 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
11.6 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
2.0 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 3.1435% / 0.03143512
52.4 Roman:DEU_Roman
18.4 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
9.0 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
8.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
8.0 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
3.4 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d

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Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.8932% / 0.01893158
64.0 Father_scaled
16.6 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
8.8 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
7.8 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
2.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial


Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.1156% / 0.02115572
70.8 Gallop_scaled
24.2 Roman:DEU_Roman
3.6 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
1.4 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 7.1561% / 0.07156074
79.6 England_Roman:6DT22
20.4 England_Roman:6DT23

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 7.4052% / 0.07405239
90.6 England_Roman:6DT22
9.4 England_Roman:6DT23


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Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.2255% / 0.02225511
91.2 Father_scaled
8.8 England_Roman:6DT3

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.3188% / 0.02318771
94.2 Gallop_scaled
5.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002

Target: alexmegas(Romanian)_scaled
Distance: 2.1301% / 0.02130121 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Slavic
38.2 Roman
14.6 Paleo-Balkan
6.4 Celtic

Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic
34.6 Roman
2.6 Paleo-Balkan


Target: Dušan_scaled_K13&K15_sim
Distance: 0.8065% / 0.00806511
62.8 Slavic:Ukrainian
20.2 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial
9.6 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
4.8 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
2.6 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA

nice thread

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.03203976 Germanic:SWE_IA
0.04122120 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
0.04814270 Celtic:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany
0.05124833 Germanic:DNK_BA
0.05458396 Celtic:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR116
0.05504571 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
0.06120997 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.06199968 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
0.06705675 Slavic:Sorb
0.06912502 Slavic:Ukrainian
0.07385029 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA
0.08293091 Celtic:DEU_Lech_MBA:OTTM_151ind2_d
0.08309748 Roman:DEU_Roman
0.09370006 Paleo-Balkan:HRV_IA
0.09651209 Roman:ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA
0.10026830 Roman:ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA
0.11067900 Roman:ITA_Rome_Latini_IA
0.15893345 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2152% / 0.02215236
48.0 Germanic:DEU_MA
28.2 Germanic:SWE_IA
13.6 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_2
6.2 Celtic:DEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
4.0 Roman:ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA