J2 and the foundation of Human Civilization

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Originally Posted by Altaylı

Yeah, i think timur has more chance to be a J2 than mongols and manchus but i am not sure
his facial reconstruction looks eurasian(like Uzbeks) not fully mongoloid
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Qn-JF1WTw&s=10

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To me this painting of his looks almost completely West Eurasian

http://www.artnet.com/WebServices/im...-tamerlane.jpg

Also despite his paternal Mongol origins is mother is apparently a peasant or local person from that region so its possible she was very Caucasoid if she was Tajik/Persian

A Volga Tatar with J2a (Y7687)

Gedrosia 9.11 Pct
Siberian 11.71 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.6 Pct
Atlantic_Med 20.04 Pct
North_European 42.9 Pct
South_Asian 1.31 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.65 Pct
East_Asian 4.81 Pct
Caucasus 7.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ilyas
6.11534136 Tatar_Mishar
7.24486025 Tatar_Kazan
10.80802017 Bashkir_North
11.24800871 Besermyan_Udmurtia
11.77184777 Komi
12.02576817 Chuvash
14.62995215 Bashkir_Central
14.85110434 Udmurt
14.90654890 Russian_Ural
15.23992454 Mordovian

Distance to: Ilyas
1.48293783 66.40% Bashkir_North + 33.60% Icelandic
1.72201406 68.40% Bashkir_North + 31.60% Irish
1.86476761 67.80% Bashkir_North + 32.20% Scottish
1.92363137 66.80% Bashkir_North + 33.20% Danish
2.06266498 65.60% Bashkir_North + 34.40% German_Northwest
2.08662525 67.80% Bashkir_North + 32.20% English_North
2.14294996 58.60% Bashkir_Central + 41.40% Swedish
2.30110221 66.00% Bashkir_North + 34.00% Swedish
2.35241809 68.00% Bashkir_North + 32.00% English_mixed
2.40818521 59.60% Bashkir_Central + 40.40% Danish

Target: Ilyas
Distance: 1.6716% / 1.67162682 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.3 Tatar_Kazan
28.3 Besermyan_Udmurtia
25.4 Irish

J2b-L283 is the second most common haplogroup together with R1b-M269 at around 18-20 %, in albanians

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

the world Overlords and space conquerors (J2)

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

Agree with them or not Andalus was a J2 elite

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Originally Posted by gıulıoımpa

J2 is the haplogroup of empires.

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Is there a doctor in the house?

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Originally Posted by CordedWhelp

I like these haplogroup wars. Keeps us all young.

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It would be fine, if it would be based on truth and common sense.
Unfortunatly — like this mental assylium's thread is showing — it is not the case.

we really are KANGZ and shiet

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Originally Posted by Rethel

various copes

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I'm sorry Rethel that I have to shatter your fantasy. Must be painful that even in your own country, the J2 Elite was ruling (House Lubomirski, J2b2a-L283). It is, after all, the nature of R1 to be subservient to us. You must realize that we, along with our Neolithic confederates, have been ruling from the shadows. It is our ultimate goal to eliminate the R1. Whether it was Frederick the Great (I2) killing R1a's, or E-V13 Adolf killing R1b's.

The age of R1 is over Rethel.
J2 come back again but at ths time in steppes among Turkic people

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Originally Posted by Altaylı

The age of R1 is over Rethel.
J2 come back again but at ths time in steppes among Turkic people

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J2 Jihad on Turkic R1 must be executed from West Asia. Besides Turks, Azeris, Chuvashes and Uyghurs, the other Central Asians have been lost to subhuman Q, N, C, and R1 lineages. They must be eradicated

I wish I were J2 but I'm just a lowly G neolithic farmeroid. :(

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Originally Posted by Altaylı

The age of R1 is over Rethel.
J2 come back again but at ths time in steppes among Turkic people

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Bruh, you could be R1