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Even if so, so far when it comes to classifications you opened threads about "Turanid" persons who do not have a T of Turanid, classified persons as Turanids and Mongoloid influenced who are far from Turanids with zero Mongoloid influence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipchak_Håkan
Because of that who knows who you saw and what is a Monogloid influenced person to you.
I seriously doubt Russians have adopted such a subjectivist approach when it comes to ethnicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipchak_Håkan
The Russian ethnos, is, after all, a firmly defined biological concept. Either you are born into a family of ethnic Russians, or you are not.
If you have been assimilated into a Russian genetic sphere, you tend to tell what you see and hear. Language and society.Quote:
Originally Posted by Permafrost
Turanid is not Mongoloid btw. In contrast it is Europoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solin
Turanid is contact type between Europoid and Mongoloid, or to put it simple mixed.
http://i.imgur.com/OXJuJgc.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by sevruk
Yes right, but still mainly Europoid/Caucasoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twistedmind
I can't say, but i suppose Italian Croatian
When u look at aust dna which tell ur full ancestry i like the globe 13 test the most. Italians have alot more mid eastern blood than most Europeans like Greeks and far southeast Europeans. Croatians probably are not that related to Italians. Since they have so much over 30% of specifically east European Y DNa I2a1b kind of shows their european side groups with eastern Europeans but y dna is just a direct male line not ur full ancestry. If anything i would think Italians european side would group with western Europeans. Their only Mesloithic-Paleothic Y DNa that did not come with later Germanic migrations is I2a1a and other older I2 subclades. They are very rare because of new Neolithic and Bronze age paternal lineages cut off the old ones but since I2a1a is specific to western Europe and comes from Mesolithic-Paleolithic western Europe i would bet there European side is more related to like Spanish and French.
I doubt the European side so the main blood of Italians and Croatiens is very related. But since Italians do have a pretty signicant amount of mid eastern blood from around Syria and Iraq their percentage over all i would guess is over 20%. Globe13 test when u combine west asian and southwest asian percentages it is about 35-40% but i dont trust their percenatges. Crotians since they live in southeast Europe also have pretty high amounts of mid easternf rom the exact same source as were Italians get it. But they have less in globe13 test when u combine west asian and southwest asian they get about 25-30%.
Polish and eastern Russians probably are extremely related. The aust dna group that is from the family all europeans come form and probably arrived and its ancestral form probably arrived in Europe 30,000-60,000ybp. Is called by most test north euro, north east euro, or atlantic baltic. It is more popular east of Germany and north of Romania. So both Polish and Russians including eastern Russians have extremely high amounts. Since they both live in eastern Europe i would bet they have similar ancestry. Also the really Russian ethnic group is slavic just like Polish, When u say eastern Russian they are still Russian just because u live in the country Russia does not make u Russian if they call themselves Russian and speak the language than they are not Mongols. Real ethnic Russians live in the European side of Russia.
Both Russians and Polish have over 50% of Balto SLavic R1a1a1b2 Z283 and have many specifically Slavic subclades. Balto SLavic langauges were rbought to eastern Europe through central Russia Yamna culture and it formed in eastern Europe as Corded ware culture about 5,000ybp two 4,600ybp y dna samples from corded ware culture in central Germany had for sure R1a1 probably the Balto Slavic branch which should be called Corded ware branch. It is hard to say how much blood the migrating Yamna people gave to modern Baltic and Slavic speakers but the defintley are a common ancestry for Russians and Polish. I think that Russians and Polish are almost the same people genetically. So they defintley are more related to each other than Croatians and Italians.
If they call themselves Russian their Russian. Russian is a ethnic group i guess now they own a bunch of land in asia but orignalley they lived in only the European part of Russia mainly around northern so like Moscow area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberta1