VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Putin mongoloid admiture isn't from mongols but from Uralic people in northern Russia.

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Mongols settled in Russia, Persia, Anatolia, China, .. pretty much everywhere.

They had hundreds of thousands horse mounted soldiers who moved from location to location (BUT NEVER HAD HOME)

And Yes Russia is full of Mongols (Russians don't deny that)

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Putin mongoloid admiture isn't from mongols but from Uralic people in northern Russia.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Mongols settled in Russia, Persia, Anatolia, China, .. pretty much everywhere.

They had hundreds of thousands horse mounted soldiers who moved from location to location (BUT NEVER HAD HOME)

And Yes Russia is full of Mongols (Russians don't deny that)

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They occupied central Asia during the Soviet times, also still today they have Siberia and Far East. But the towns like Voronezh, Oryol, Belgorod Oblast, etc.. remained Slavic.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

They occupied central Asia during the Soviet times, also still today they have Siberia and Far East. But the towns like Voronezh, Oryol, Belgorod Oblast, etc.. remained Slavic.

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Kazakhs for example are all Mongols.

Until 1850 their rulers had "Gengishid, Borjigin, Chagatayid" prefixes.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Mongols settled in Russia, Persia, Anatolia, China, .. pretty much everywhere.

They had hundreds of thousands horse mounted soldiers who moved from location to location (BUT NEVER HAD HOME)

And Yes Russia is full of Mongols (Russians don't deny that)

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Mongol influence in Russians is similar like Turkish in Bosniaks, irrelevant.

Slavic settlers in Russia conquered and assimilated Finno-Ugric natives, who were originaly part mongoloid, and that's where their minor east eurasian comes from.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Mongol influence in Russians is similar like Turkish in Bosniaks, irrelevant.

Slavic settlers in Russia conquered and assimilated Finno-Ugric natives, who were originaly party mongoloid, and that's where their minor east eurasian comes from.

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don't be funny.

Even today Russians mix with Tartars who are TURKIC people.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Kazakhs for example are all Mongols.

Until 1850 their rulers had "Gengishid, Borjigin, Chagatayid" prefixes.

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Kazakhs are turkified Mongols, that is well known fact. Descedants of Golden Horde.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

don't be funny.

Even today Russians mix with Tartars who are TURKIC people.

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It is true, but in Asian Russia.
In European Russia they have their European bassinet in towns which i mentioned above.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

don't be funny.

Even today Russians mix with Tartars who are TURKIC people.

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Volga Tatars are genetically pred. Finnic people with minor Turkic influence.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Exactly.

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lol you trolls! Putin is east Baltid - its Slavic type not uralid!

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Originally Posted by EdwardS

lol you trolls! Putin is east Baltid - its Slavic type not uralid!

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He is Russian type but not really Slavic :)
Because he wouldn't be typical for any Slavic country except Russia.

and east baltic is oginally Finno-Ugric type.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

He is Russian type but not really Slavic :)
Because he wouldn't be typical for any Slavic country except Russia.

and east baltic is oginally Finno-Ugric type.

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It's not uncommon for Lithuanians and Latvians at all.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

It's not uncommon for Lithuanians and Latvians at all.

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but they are not Slavs at all

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

He is Russian type but not really Slavic :)
Because he wouldn't be typical for any Slavic country except Russia.

and east baltic is oginally Finno-Ugric type.

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I don't think he would pass very well as a Finn either his phenotype basically only passes in Northern Russia

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Originally Posted by Decius

I don't think he would pass very well as a Finn either his phenotype basically only passes in Northern Russia

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I agree. He doesn't look Finnish. He looks simply northern Russian.

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Originally Posted by Žarko

but they are not Slavs at all

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I said it by the way, becouse she mentioned that is mostly Finno-Ugric phenotype.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

I said it by the way, becouse she mentioned that is mostly Finno-Ugric phenotype.

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I don't think he would pass well in baltic states. But maybe I'm wrong

Nikola Jokić is pan-Slavic looking. (i think he can pass in many Slavic countries)

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/KYS...51/Jokic.0.jpg

https://cdn.chatsports.com/cache/24/...2-original.jpg

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

I don't think he would pass well in baltic states. But maybe I'm wrong

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Maybe he would not. Arshavin would pass definitly.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...58_468x343.jpg

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

You are not Bosniak by ancestry but muslim Serb..

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So is Vlatko. He descesnds from Montenegrin Serbs.

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Originally Posted by Dick

So is Vlatko. He descesnds from Montenegrin Serbs.

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It is not confirmed. Probably. But it is paternal masculine line only. And yes... My grandfather looked typical Montenegrin Dinarid.

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Originally Posted by Dick

So is Vlatko. He descesnds from Montenegrin Serbs.

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By one line ? Genetically he doesn't have much to do with Serbs.

He is much closer to Croats, like majority of Bosnians.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

By one line ? Genetically he doesn't have much to do with Serbs.

He is much closer to Croats, like majority of Bosnians.

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You're all from Serb sperm.

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Originally Posted by Dick

You're all from Serb sperm.

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Actually you western Serbs are posrbice, just like your genetics prove :)

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

You are not Bosniak by ancestry but muslim Serb.

Btw , unlike you I have real Bosniak noble origins trough my father.

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Jest, a da se autosomalno uklapa sa vama Ujkanima, bio bi "of noble croatian ancestry". Lolčina.

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Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate

Jest, a da se autosomalno uklapa sa vama Ujkanima, bio bi "of noble croatian ancestry". Lolčina.

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What's your problem ?

I posted pictures of my Bosniak ancestors on this site, lot before you joined. Btw, my father is on Serbian DNA projekt anyway (because one Serb friend asked could he add him and I agreed), find him under name Pezić.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

What's your problem ?

I posted pictures of my Bosniak ancestors on this site, lot before you joined. Btw, my fathr is on Serbian DNA projekt anyway, find him under name Pezić.

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Više nije srećo. I zabole me za tvoje poturčene pretke iskreno.

ALO ĐE SU VAM LIGNJE IZA DŽAMIJE? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate

Više nije srećo. I zabole me za tvoje poturčene pretke iskreno.

ALO ĐE SU VAM LIGNJE IZA DŽAMIJE? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Who cares, I'm Catholic :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Who cares, I'm Catholic :laugh:

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Pa ja, užasi postmoderne.

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Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate

Pa ja, užasi post-moderne.

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Ti si prosrbica, mora da se neki Hrvat umješao među tvoje Krajišnike :))))

Zato si i genetski daleko od Srba...

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

It is true, but in Asian Russia.
In European Russia they have their European bassinet in towns which i mentioned above.

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European Russia is also heavily mongoloid mixed,.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Ti si prosrbica, mora da se neki Hrvat umješao među tvoje Krajišnike :))))

Zato si i genetski daleko od Srba...

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Pre svega ja sam blizak Moldavcima, a ne Hrvatima:

https://i.imgur.com/ZCBBntD.jpg

Krajišnik sam tek 1/8 tj. jedna prababa mi je sa područja nekadašnje RSK, ne više od toga.

A kao drugo, mešanje sa katolicima tj. sklapanje brakovima sa istima je bila potpuno normalna stvar kod Srba u Bosni i hrvatskoj u prošlosti.

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Originally Posted by Dick

You're all from Serb sperm.

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And you are not :D

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Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate

Pre svega ja sam blizak Moldavcima, a ne Hrvatima:

https://i.imgur.com/ZCBBntD.jpg

Krajišnik sam tek 1/8, ne više od toga.

A kao drugo, mešanje sa katolicima tj. sklapanje brakovima sa istima je bila potpuno normalna stvar kod Srba u Bosni i hrvatskoj u prošlosti.

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Still closer to Croats than to Serbs.

All nations in Croatia and Bosnia are on average closer to Croats than to Serbs. And Serbs claim Croats are catholic converts ?

It's more the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Stears

European Russia is also heavily mongoloid mixed,.

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That's not the case, by any calculators. Even if have, those could be towns around southern Russia. There is no doubt about Western borders of Russia that they're clear of Mongoloid admixture.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Still closer to Croats than to Serbs.

Aln nations in Croatia and Bosnia are on average closer to Croats than to Serbs. And Serbs claim Croats are catholic converts ?

It's more the opposite.

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Kao što rekoh, to je zbog mešanja sa katolkinjama, to najviše i utiče na autosomalnu. Y-DNA krajiških Srba ne podržava tvoje navode da se radi o nekakvim "konvertitima" na pravoslavlje. A direktna muška linija u patrijarhalnim društvima kakvo je bilo društvo Srba u Bosni i hrvatskoj je ipak, najbitnija.

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Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate

Kao što rekoh, to je zbog mešanja sa katolkinjama, to najviše i utiče na autosomalnu. Y-DNA krajiških Srba ne podržava tvoje navode da se radi o nekakvim "konvertitima" na pravoslavlje.

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Moguće. Ali mi nemamo hrvatski DNK projekt niti zapravo znamo kakvi su haplotipovi kod nas i koliko su drugačiji od srpskih.

Posebno to nemaju Bošnjaci, i iz financijskih i iz političkih razloga.

Genetika je jako isprepletena sa politkom i ideologijom. Meni ne bi smetalo da je dio Hrvata porijeklom od Srba, Talijana ili ikog drugog, ali ne da se to tvrdi zbog politike, nego jer je to tako.

Isto vrijedi i za Srbe i Bošnjake.

PS što se direktne muške linje tiče, kod Hrvata je to manje zastupljeno nego kod Srba (osim u dinaridima)

Meni je tata po direktnoj muškoj linji Bošnjak, iako je 3/4 Hrvat, katolik, i ima prezime sa majčine strane a ne očeve. Itd.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

By one line ? Genetically he doesn't have much to do with Serbs.

He is much closer to Croats, like majority of Bosnians.

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Ma kakvi Hrvati....

Niko ovdje ne voli da ga se poredi sa Hrvatima... i ste kulturno daleko od Bosne i Srbije

Vi ste stranci na balkanu koji igrom slučaja pričate naš jezik.







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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Moguće. Ali mi nemamo hrvatski DNK projekt niti zapravo znamo kakvi su haplotipovi kod nas i koliko su drugačiji od srpskih.

Posebno to nemaju Bošnjaci, i iz financijskih i iz političkih razloga.

Genetika je jako isprepletena sa politkom i ideologijom. Meni ne bi smetalo da je dio Hrvata porijeklom od Srba, Talijana ili ikog drugog, ali ne da se to tvrdi zbog politike, nego jer je to tako.

Isto vrijedi i za Srbe i Bošnjake.

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Hrvati su, barem pre onome što sam video, minorno poreklom od Srba. Isto je i sa druge strane.

Što se tiče haplotipova, krajiški Srbi pre svega imaju haplogrupe poput J2b1, N2, I1-P109, koje Hrvati nemaju, i tu nema dileme nikakve oko porekla nosioca tih haplogrupa. Čak su i pojedini I2>CTS10228 rodovi drugačiji nego kod Hrvata.

Isto važi i za najrasprostranjeniji R1a>M458>L1029 rod kod Srba u Krajini kome pripadaju i Tesle u Lici, taj rod je inače čest kod svih Srba. Kod Hrvata je češća ako se ne varam M458>L260.