https://i.imgur.com/XM4Q42g.png
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
Printable View
https://i.imgur.com/XM4Q42g.png
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
This is Eurogenes K15, correct?
Add me please:
1 Baltic 25.88
2 Eastern_Euro 22.89
3 North_Sea 22.27
4 Atlantic 12.27
5 West_Med 7.06
6 West_Asian 2.82
7 East_Med 2.53
8 South_Asian 1.44
9 Red_Sea 1.26
10 Siberian 0.86
11 Amerindian 0.62
12 Oceanian 0.09
13 Northeast_African 0.01
Yeah Zadar. They plots more North than I thought they would considering med scores are higher than Serb average. Defo not Italian or Albo leaning tho.
https://i.imgur.com/KFuybdh.png
49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple
Michal, you are pretty eastern for Pole. More Eastern than average Ukrainians in fact.
Yes. I see. I am definitely more eastern for some reason. Maybe some Russian blood ;) I was getting quite good fits with 7/8 South Polish + 1/8 East Finnish when trying to model myself.
Could you zoom the Eastern European part (Between East German and Erzya and between Estonian and Romanian)?
+ It would be nice if you could provide a list with a name for each number (I know you've been posting these information in this thread but it already has more pages than I can read ;) )
https://i.imgur.com/FfzIpwf.png
Added myself in Red, no. 50 :)
zoomed in
https://i.imgur.com/w6q9iZi.png
List of names:
1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)
9 - LukaszM Father (Polish)
10 - LukaszM Mother (Polish)
11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish), colored in Red
12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (half Baltic German, half Russian and Polish)
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)
17 - Leto Brother In Law (Russian) , colored in Red
18 - Kursk (Russian)
19 - Pskov (Russian)
20 - Momčilović (Serb)
Greater Poland - unnumbered, colored in Purple-Red
21 - Spis (Slovak )
22 - Lemgrant (Ukraine)
23- Dimadoe Father (Russian)
Leto's Family - (Russian, Belarusian) unnmbered, colored in Brown
24 - Croatian (Horvatić)
25 - Polish , colored in green
26 - Norka (Russian, Tatar Crimea)
27 - Polish 5
28 - Polish 6
Polish 7 - unnumbered, colored in Green
Polish 8 - unnumbered, colored in Purple
29 - Bulgarian
30 - Ukraine 2
Russian 1 - unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 - unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green
36 - Hungarian 2
37 - Jewish (Prussia)
38 - Vlatko Vuković (Bosniak)
39 - Alexander Lekomtsev (Russian)
SSlava (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Yellow
40 - Rein (Russian, Jordanian)
41 - Russian, Buryat
Vyanceslav (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Gray
42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) - unnumbered, colored in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian
Father and Son (Russians, Volgograd) - unnumbered, colored in Bright Blue
45 - Russian (Far East)
46 - Russian, Chinese
47- Russian, Chinese
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple
50 - Nato (Croat, Slovene, Czech), colored in Red
I want add just 1 Finnish and 1 Bosnian Croat when my phone charges
I don't want overcrowd the samples because is good chart already
List of names was added. Refresh the page. Some do not appear in Zoomed In version because of mixed or non East-Central Euro ancestry.
Yes, I am true Purger and son of dear Zagreb Grad :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkiZd2E26_g
Finnish
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 32.32
2 Eastern_Euro 23.38
3 Baltic 18.55
4 Atlantic 12.74
5 Siberian 6.97
6 West_Med 1.89
7 South_Asian 1.69
8 Amerindian 1.05
9 Southeast_Asian 0.99
10 Oceanian 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Finnish 7.21
2 East_Finnish 7.26
3 Southwest_Finnish 10.26
4 North_Swedish 12.18
5 Estonian 13.19
6 Kargopol_Russian 13.98
7 Ukrainian 15.58
8 Polish 16.19
9 South_Polish 16.4
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.4
11 Erzya 16.8
12 Swedish 17.06
13 East_German 17.28
14 Hungarian 17.56
15 Southwest_Russian 17.61
16 Norwegian 17.82
17 La_Brana-1 18.21
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.54
19 Estonian_Polish 18.61
20 Belorussian 18.66
Bosnian Croat
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.27
2 North_Sea 16.64
3 Atlantic 15.8
4 Eastern_Euro 14.52
5 East_Med 12.56
6 West_Med 10.38
7 West_Asian 8.71
8 Amerindian 0.62
9 Siberian 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.5
2 Serbian 6
3 Croatian 6.56
4 Romanian 6.71
5 Bulgarian 8.51
6 Hungarian 8.61
7 Austrian 9.2
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.25
9 South_Polish 12.44
10 Ukrainian 12.93
11 East_German 13.47
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.93
13 Polish 14.97
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.01
15 Southwest_Russian 15.46
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.48
17 Greek 16.86
18 Belorussian 17.27
19 Estonian_Polish 17.4
20 Kargopol_Russian 18.31
Last kits I post..
https://i.imgur.com/nke1Vvh.png
51 - Finnish
52- Croatian (Bosnia) - colored in Red
The Finn must be from Eastern Finland or closer to Lapland. SW Finns are less Siberian and more Scandinavian.
Nice job anyway, thank you, Nato!
Final zoomed in Version.
https://i.imgur.com/zQWNn16.png
List of names:
1 - Cumansky (South Polish)
2 - Cumansky Uncle (South Polish)
3 - Poland 1
4 - Hungary 1
5 - Poland 2
6 - Ukrainian 1 (Crimea)
7 - Poland 3
8 - Lithuanian 1 (Sabonis)
9 - LukaszM Father (Polish)
10 - LukaszM Mother (Polish)
11 - LukaszM Daughter (Polish), colored in Red
12 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandmother (Russian)
13 - Not a Cop Paternal Grandfather (half Baltic German, half Russian and Polish)
14 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandfather (Russian)
15 - Not a Cop Maternal Grandmother (Russian)
16 - Not a Cop (Russian)
17 - Leto Brother In Law (Russian) , colored in Red
18 - Kursk (Russian)
19 - Pskov (Russian)
20 - Momčilović (Serb)
Greater Poland - unnumbered, colored in Purple-Red
21 - Spis (Slovak )
22 - Lemgrant (Ukraine)
23- Dimadoe Father (Russian)
Leto's Family - (Russian, Belarusian) unnmbered, colored in Brown
24 - Croatian (Horvatić)
25 - Polish , colored in green
26 - Norka (Russian, Tatar Crimea)
27 - Polish 5
28 - Polish 6
Polish 7 - unnumbered, colored in Green
Polish 8 - unnumbered, colored in Purple
29 - Bulgarian
30 - Ukraine 2
Russian 1 - unnumbered, colored in Orange
Russian 2 - unnumbered, colored in Pink
31 - Russian 3
32 - Russian 4
33 - Montenegrin (Popović)
34 - Arhat (Russian, Pashtun)
35 - Silenkiller (Russian, Belarusian) , colored in dark Green
36 - Hungarian 2
37 - Jewish (Prussia)
38 - Vlatko Vuković (Bosniak)
39 - Alexander Lekomtsev (Russian)
SSlava (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Yellow
40 - Rein (Russian, Jordanian)
41 - Russian, Buryat
Vyanceslav (Russian) - unnumbered, colored in Gray
42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) - unnumbered, colored in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian
Father and Son (Russians, Volgograd) - unnumbered, colored in Bright Blue
45 - Russian (Far East)
46 - Russian, Chinese
47- Russian, Chinese
48 - Croatian (Zadar)
49 - Michal3141 (Polish) , colored in Purple
50 - Nato (Croat, Slovene, Czech), colored in Red
51- Finnish
52- Croatian (Bosnia) - colored in Red
Cheers brothers :victory0:
@Nato, you don't need to place them on the map, I justed wanted to post this family - Armenian/Russian mix
1. Armenian man
Spoiler!
2. Russian woman
Spoiler!
3. Their son - 1/2 Armenian, 1/2 Russian
Spoiler!
4. Son's wife, Russian (probably of Ukrainian origin)
Spoiler!
5. Son's child #1 (daughter)
Spoiler!
6. Son's child #2 (son)
Spoiler!
The kids are pretty much Russian to me, assimilated enough. I would consider them fully Russian. The Armenian man is R-M269, by the way.
^^^^very interesting bruv. Do you want me to plot them ? It's not a big deal.
https://i.imgur.com/lbIuTvF.png
53 - Rusian, Armenian (father)
54 - Russian, Armenian (daughter)
55 - Russian, Armenian (son)
Daughter and son plot pretty differently actually. I expected it when filling in their values, which aren't so identical. Do you know how they look like ?
Some Ukrainians and to a lesser extent South Russians with Ukrainian ancestry have recent or ancient Vlach-like admixture and that is why they are shifted to the balkan/east Mediterranean. Much of (south)western Ukraine was probably Vlach-like prior to Slavs. Somehow Poland and Western Ukraine were very southern in Pre-Slavic times. What is weird because Corded Ware was originally from this region but it seems that they moved out of this places and the local Neolithic farmers stayed there mostly
I probably already asked you this question somewhere but i don't find the answer anymore. Do you have kits from Central Russia especially from places like Ivanovo, Wladimir and Tver? I want to test my wife who is mainly from Central Russia (Wladimir, Ivanovo,..) but i decided to test her brother to get also the y-dna of her father (paternal line is originally from Kursk) so i will do this when i am again in Russia.
He definitely needs to test his subclade but i expect him to be under Z2124. A Ottoman orgin is possible but there are many other possibilities . It could be from Alans or Avars. R1a-Z93 is found in small frequencies (less than 1%) almost everywhere in Europe. Even in places like Britain or Spain. Also R1a-Z93 was found in Late Bronze Age Bulgaria and was maybe also brought to some extent by Proto-Greeks/Proto-Balkan-IEs
https://i.imgur.com/NLzSKmB.png
56- Pomak 1
57- Pomak 2
Kaspias
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.45
2 North_Sea 14.77
3 West_Asian 13.38
4 Eastern_Euro 12.2
5 Baltic 10.08
6 West_Med 10.03
7 Siberian 6.85
8 Atlantic 5.56
9 Red_Sea 2.46
10 South_Asian 1.97
11 Southeast_Asian 1.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.47
13 Amerindian 0.44
14 Oceanian 0.31
https://i.imgur.com/tq3tNWB.png
58- Kaspias (Pomak, Balkan Turk)
Half Afghan half Lithuanian siblings
#1
Population
North_Sea 14.64 Pct
Atlantic 10.12 Pct
Baltic 17.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 17.25 Pct
West_Med 2.11 Pct
West_Asian 15.67 Pct
East_Med 6.52 Pct
Red_Sea 0.63 Pct
South_Asian 13.58 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.93 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.81 Pct
#2
Population
North_Sea 11.94 Pct
Atlantic 13.77 Pct
Baltic 18.44 Pct
Eastern_Euro 19.30 Pct
West_Med 0.99 Pct
West_Asian 13.06 Pct
East_Med 7.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 12.84 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.71 Pct
Amerindian 0.50 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.52 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct
Lithuanian mother
Population
North_Sea 20.63 Pct
Atlantic 15.63 Pct
Baltic 33.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 24.21 Pct
West_Med 3.28 Pct
West_Asian 0.84 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.44 Pct
Spoiler!
Afghan father
Population
North_Sea 4.66 Pct
Atlantic 4.50 Pct
Baltic 4.15 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.32 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 30.47 Pct
East_Med 13.27 Pct
Red_Sea 0.77 Pct
South_Asian 24.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.66 Pct
Siberian 3.48 Pct
Amerindian 0.57 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.49 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct
Spoiler!
https://i.imgur.com/JDAxEjP.png
59 - Slovene 1
60 - Slovene 2
https://i.imgur.com/exyIevC.png
61- Karakartal (Balkan Turk)
May i ask what is the difference between "Eastern Euro" and "Baltic" also "North_Sea" and "Atlantic"? I usually prefer to use K13 so i don't know much about K15. They seem distributed randomly lol
Baltic is something Balto-Slavic (Belarus, Lithuania, Estonia, Western Russia, etc.). Eastern Euro is a more Eastern component, probably Finno-Ugric, Uralic, Northeastern European like Finns, Northern Russians. It's more ANE-realted, some 'mongoloid' and 'Amerindian' gets sucked into the EE. North Sea is Northwestern European, Atlantic is probably France, Basques, things like that.
https://i.imgur.com/SE8YwzH.png
62 - Lithuanian, colored in Pink
63 - Afghan
64 - Sibling 1 (Lithuanian, Afghan)
65 - Sibling 2 (Lithuanian, Afghan)