Really? They look clearly non-white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
But maybe you're right. Tamil + Kurd/Turk/Armenian + Southern Euro. Not exactly a Nordic looking mix, to say the least.
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Really? They look clearly non-white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
But maybe you're right. Tamil + Kurd/Turk/Armenian + Southern Euro. Not exactly a Nordic looking mix, to say the least.
You should make western Romanian thread too (Transylvania, Maramures, Banat and Crișana, including Szekler and Saxon samples). That would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I have no idea how to discriminate between Szekler and Hungarian from Hungary or Saxon and German from Germany surnames.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
But I will have a thread on Romanian samples from Transylvania too. There might be some minorities too, if they are very obvious not to miss.
He can have foreign ancestry, or he is not even from RM. Moldavians can't be so much southern, this historically is imposible, only if these individuals have foreign ancestry, since such individuals are plenty in RM. This is another reason why in norhern areas many with such results looks like outliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
You could check if by looking at their gedmatch. I saw one of two Transylvanian Saxon 23andme results and they are mixed with Romanians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Szeklers also have stronger Balkan input than regular Hungarians, they will plot mostly like user Kokeny and her mum.
Has there ever been Aromanian settlement to southern Moldova? Those samples are not far from Balkan Vlachs genetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Maybe as merchants. But I don't think these results have something to do with Aromanians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
I made a thread with people from that village from Ștefan Vodă, and they don't look like Aromanians.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...strict-Moldova
At least the ones that have public data on GEDmatch look presentable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Obviously not hwhite, but they aren't that strange. And they are also full Romas standing at 20-25% South Indian.
I will only give one example here. This person will be labelled as a full Roma in the Wallachian thread. She also has photos in traditional Gypsy folk costumes.
Most Gypsies that we see on the streets though are piss poor and/or living a nomadic lifestyle, so they look less pleasant than they could be.
Obviously those that give a damn about DNA and/or are more educated are able to take better care of themselves. Perhaps that's why they don't stand out, at least from my point of view.
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K13
North_Atlantic 5.66 Pct
Baltic 14.80 Pct
West_Med 12.28 Pct
West_Asian 18.02 Pct
East_Med 16.44 Pct
Red_Sea 3.01 Pct
South_Asian 25.06 Pct
East_Asian 2.61 Pct
Siberian 0.44 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.38 Pct
Northeast_African 0.09 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.19 Pct
S-Indian 21.23 Pct
Baloch 14.69 Pct
Caucasian 26.19 Pct
NE-Euro 16.02 Pct
SE-Asian 0.82 Pct
Siberian 0.84 Pct
NE-Asian 0.69 Pct
Papuan 1.32 Pct
American -
Beringian 0.15 Pct
Mediterranean 11.96 Pct
SW-Asian 5.79 Pct
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.30 Pct
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.19
2 S-Indian 21.23
3 NE-Euro 16.02
4 Baloch 14.69
5 Mediterranean 11.96
6 SW-Asian 5.79
7 Papuan 1.32
8 Siberian 0.84
9 SE-Asian 0.82
10 NE-Asian 0.69
11 W-African 0.3
12 Beringian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-b (behar) 3.43
2 turkmen (yunusbayev) 22.01
3 pashtun (harappa) 22.42
4 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 22.55
5 bene-israel-jew (behar) 22.74
6 tajik (yunusbayev) 24
7 ashkenazi (harappa) 25.47
8 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 25.64
9 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 25.66
10 turkish (harappa) 25.7
11 nogai (yunusbayev) 26.36
12 stalskoe (xing) 26.43
13 azeri (harappa) 26.45
14 iranian (harappa) 26.64
15 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 26.69
16 kurd (harappa) 27.05
17 iranian (behar) 27.21
18 turk (behar) 27.22
19 kashmiri (harappa) 27.56
20 haryana-jatt (harappa) 27.69
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.9% romanian-b (behar) + 9.1% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.46
2 93.3% romanian-b (behar) + 6.7% urkarah (xing) @ 2.65
3 95.5% romanian-b (behar) + 4.5% chuvash (behar) @ 2.73
4 91.4% romanian-b (behar) + 8.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.73
5 93% romanian-b (behar) + 7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.73
6 94% romanian-b (behar) + 6% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.8
7 93.9% romanian-b (behar) + 6.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.81
8 97.1% romanian-b (behar) + 2.9% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.82
9 96.1% romanian-b (behar) + 3.9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.82
10 93.7% romanian-b (behar) + 6.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.84
11 96.4% romanian-b (behar) + 3.6% russian (hgdp) @ 2.84
12 93.3% romanian-b (behar) + 6.7% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.85
13 94.4% romanian-b (behar) + 5.6% lezgin (behar) @ 2.87
14 93.4% romanian-b (behar) + 6.6% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.89
15 94.8% romanian-b (behar) + 5.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.9
16 96.5% romanian-b (behar) + 3.5% russian (behar) @ 2.91
17 94% romanian-b (behar) + 6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.92
18 97% romanian-b (behar) + 3% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.93
19 94.3% romanian-b (behar) + 5.7% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.93
20 94.6% romanian-b (behar) + 5.4% uzbek (behar) @ 2.93
Romanian-b is full Roma from Romania.
Not familiar with Aromanian look tbh. What do you think is cause of such results?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Can I ask how would you expect to score? Take K13 as a base, make some estimates and post them in this thread and then some months/years down the line we will compare how good you are at estimating autosomal breakdowns by looking at one's phenotype.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
This Gypsy woman is very attractive.
Cool, she is definitely a full Tzigane. And looks way better than stereotypical Gypsies :cool:
Many Gypsies in my city are good looking when young. I think main problem is many of adults are fat and have degenerate lifestyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://i.dlpng.com/static/png/6687486_thumb.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Yes, they could be better theoretically than they are. Gypsy culture is holding them down but let's not turn the thread into this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Est.1992
Any guesses at her ancestry and scores?
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Moldovan and with 30+ percent Baltic? I hope we're not supposed to give a detailed guesstimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
No, she was born in Ukraine and is married to a native Ukrainian speaking Ukrainian. But her maiden family name, Tsurkan, is of Moldovan/Romanian origin (original Latin version, as hers is transliterated from Cyrillic probably, is Turcan). It is very popular in R. Moldova.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I think she's a half Ukrainian mix. She looks like the female version of Nurzat, who is half Ukrainian.
North_Atlantic 27.11 Pct
Baltic 37.38 Pct
West_Med 12.55 Pct
West_Asian 4.40 Pct
East_Med 12.93 Pct
Red_Sea 2.10 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 3.22 Pct
Amerindian 0.29 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.78
2 Moldavian 7.38
3 Hungarian 8.06
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.38
5 South_Polish 8.59
6 Ukrainian 8.95
7 Serbian 10.91
8 Southwest_Russian 11.56
9 Polish 11.71
10 East_German 12.2
11 Austrian 12.53
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.62
13 Estonian_Polish 13.33
14 Russian_Smolensk 13.37
15 Belorussian 13.74
16 Romanian 14.6
17 Kargopol_Russian 15.47
18 Southwest_Finnish 16.16
19 Bulgarian 16.51
20 Erzya 17.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.5% Estonian + 34.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.53
2 69.9% Estonian + 30.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.54
3 69.9% Estonian + 30.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
4 70.6% Belorussian + 29.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.09
5 70.1% Estonian + 29.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.15
6 58.7% Estonian + 41.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.22
7 65.4% Estonian + 34.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.3
8 71.3% Estonian_Polish + 28.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.3
9 68.1% Belorussian + 31.9% Tuscan @ 3.34
10 68.8% Estonian_Polish + 31.2% Tuscan @ 3.36
11 75.2% Belorussian + 24.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.36
12 67.6% Estonian + 32.4% South_Italian @ 3.39
13 71.6% Estonian + 28.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.39
14 75.8% Estonian_Polish + 24.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.42
15 64.8% Estonian + 35.2% Central_Greek @ 3.52
16 75.3% Belorussian + 24.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.56
17 65% Belorussian + 35% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.57
18 73.1% Belorussian + 26.9% South_Italian @ 3.58
19 72.1% Southwest_Russian + 27.9% Tuscan @ 3.61
20 75.4% Belorussian + 24.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.62
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% Romanian @ 4.195218
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.676846
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian_Jewish + Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.646600
2 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.676846
3 Algerian_Jewish + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.688285
4 Algerian_Jewish + Belorussian + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.723740
5 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Finnish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.769142
6 Estonian + Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.782158
7 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Finnish + Ukrainian @ 2.795089
8 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.807140
9 Belorussian + East_Finnish + Italian_Jewish + Polish @ 2.821664
10 Belorussian + Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.826086
11 Belorussian + East_Finnish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.841588
12 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Finnish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.844390
13 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Ukrainian @ 2.858716
14 East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + Polish @ 2.860471
15 East_Finnish + Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.905860
16 Belorussian + East_Finnish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish @ 2.907618
17 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.910925
18 Belorussian + Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.915888
19 Belorussian + Finnish + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 2.924480
20 East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Italian_Jewish + South_Polish @ 2.936287
Haha, I actually thought of Nurzat too xD
Can you also share her Dodecad components?
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Originally Posted by Leto
# Population Percent
1 North_European 47.3
2 Atlantic_Med 24.46
3 Caucasus 17.74
4 Southwest_Asian 4.67
5 Siberian 3.25
6 Gedrosia 2.51
7 Sub_Saharan 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.55
2 German (Dodecad) 12.36
3 Romanians (Behar) 14.5
4 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 16.05
5 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 16.3
6 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 16.43
7 Polish (Dodecad) 16.44
8 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 18.04
9 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 19.08
10 Dutch (Dodecad) 19.82
11 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.91
12 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 20.95
13 Russian (Dodecad) 21.02
14 Belorussian (Behar) 21.31
15 Russian_B (Behar) 21.34
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 21.41
17 Russian (HGDP) 22.2
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 22.48
19 Kent (1000Genomes) 22.66
20 English (Dodecad) 22.7
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.6% Finnish (Dodecad) + 49.4% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.91
2 50.2% Tuscan (HGDP) + 49.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.04
3 59.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 40.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.17
4 53.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 46.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.18
5 51.9% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 48.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.19
6 58.2% Russian (HGDP) + 41.8% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.25
7 51.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 48.9% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.47
8 52.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 47.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.52
9 58.8% Russian (HGDP) + 41.2% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.61
10 59.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 40.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.81
11 63.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 36.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 2.86
12 50.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 49.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 2.89
13 56.4% Russian_B (Behar) + 43.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.93
14 55.4% Russian (HGDP) + 44.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3
15 56.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 43.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
16 63.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 36.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.12
17 56.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 43.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.12
18 58.7% Russian_B (Behar) + 41.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 3.17
19 57.7% Russian (HGDP) + 42.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 3.17
20 60.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 39.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.2
I've used for Moldavian an average of some samples I find more relevant (about 10 samples both from RM and RO), outliers excluded:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Moldavian,23.542,27.288,16.546,10.864,16.132,1.706 ,0.3,0.848,1.9975,0.418,0.396,0.054,0.032
distance is not ideal (normal for mixed people but can also point to a different source we can't figure out):
Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 4.3030% / 4.30296412
53.8 Moldavian
46.2 Belorussian
Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 5.6200% / 5.61997732
51.2 Southwest_Russian
48.8 Moldavian
Target: Tsurkanka
Distance: 6.1322% / 6.13217471
56.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
38.8 Moldavian
4.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
when I place Belorussian in the source it gets all the % against Ukrainian/Russian/Slovak/Lithuanian. so Belorussian (north Ukrainian?) seems best proxy for about half of her ancestry
Ladogan connection xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
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since PreSlavic wasn't in the plates, I've compared to it separately, good result:
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2 Romanian samples via GEDMatch one to many, names CHireac and Oprisan, region is not known.
Woman Chireac
Population
North_Atlantic 24.82 Pct
Baltic 28.86 Pct
West_Med 16.91 Pct
West_Asian 7.63 Pct
East_Med 16.16 Pct
Red_Sea 1.99 Pct
South_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_Asian 0.41 Pct
Siberian 1.50 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian 0.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
WOman Oprisan
Population
North_Atlantic 20.69 Pct
Baltic 21.83 Pct
West_Med 18.53 Pct
West_Asian 12.82 Pct
East_Med 20.66 Pct
Red_Sea 0.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.45 Pct
East_Asian 1.69 Pct
Siberian 1.43 Pct
Amerindian 1.25 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
We have the 2nd, I'll add the first. Oprisan is from Romania's Moldavia btw, as the surname doesn't exist in R. Moldova.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
I've got another person from Central Moldova, in this village from Cimislia at the crossroads with Ialoveni and Hincesti.
https://i.imgur.com/Xtxmnuk.png
As was the case with the person from Hincesti, this person also scores 29% Baltic. Other persons already posted in the list from Central Moldova are from Ungheni - 26%, Zmey Gorynich who was a mix of Ialoveni and Telenesti at 33%, my dad at 32%. His paternal village in Orhei though is next door to Rezina and at the same latitude as Falesti, so technically he can be considered both Central and Northern.
https://i.imgur.com/Wq2IiS0.png
Speaking of Northern, there are 3 more samples and it seems that as Aspirin noticed previously, 33% is more or less the average there among unmixed Moldovans/Romanians.
The new ones are from:
Ocnita - 33%
Balti (Moldovan/Romanian maiden surname name) - 31%
Balti (offspring of the above, but dad's surname is Russian and she uses the feminine desinence "-a" after "-ov" meaning that their family's native language is most likely Russian) - 33%
This surname is also most popular among Latvian Russians than anywhere else, so on her dad's side I'm not sure of the origin, but given that she doesn't deviate much from the mom, dad might be heavily mixed locally.
I'll post the full update later in the evening.
Some Romanians are really low in Slavic ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow
Baltic 21.83 Pct
Update v5
+21 samples
https://i.imgur.com/IqkKI9v.png
Hard to really understand what has gone on in this ountry to see such diverse results, more specifically, how some score 20-20 na/baltic when you see even Bulgarians with more na/baltic sometimes. You'd expect things to go up the morth north you are but it's not necessarily reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That person with surname Vrabie from Gura-Galbenei is visible northern for that area. I checked local surnames from that village and majority of them are Moldavian.
https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2919
Pictures with high-school graduates from that village:
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Gura-Galbenei sits at the crossroads with Hincesti, Ialoveni and is only 30km from Chisinau. His results are in line with others from the central area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Update v6
No additional samples have been added, but I sorted the table to make it easier to read
Also one with the surname Moldovan was Roma mixed, so has been moved to the mixed category.
I also forgot to add Tsurkan to Ukrainian mixed category, so that's also been changed.
https://i.imgur.com/XPmUCkg.png
The man in the gray suit looks Romani. Other than that, nice folks, quite a few can pass as Russians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Mihaela Moldovan is not Romani. I chatted with her daughter and they are not. She is Romanian + Csángó.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
He is just swarthy, is a common thing in central and southern regions to see such persons time by time, in the north is lesser, but exists too. Is just the contrast which make him to look like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
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Culturally perhaps not, but that's not typical neither for Csangos nor Romanians. 5% means that one of the grandparents was full Romani genetically. Culturally could have been anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
Do you know the region or shall I leave it as is?
Update v7
Moldovan has been moved from mixed and region uncertain to the RO mixed category
https://i.imgur.com/WtX8uT2.png
From Constanta, Dobruja.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Do you know if her Csango is from Moldavia? If not then I'll move her to the Wallachian table altogether. I'll still copy her there if her Romanian ancestry is from Wallachia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Impaler
I really do not know from where.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Her daughter results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.03
2 North_Atlantic 24.67
3 East_Med 17.48
4 West_Med 16.77
5 West_Asian 7.82
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Oceanian 1.57
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Siberian 1.16
10 Red_Sea 1.08
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
12 East_Asian 0.31
13 Northeast_African 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.09
2 Serbian 4.82
3 Bulgarian 5.77
4 Moldavian 10.06
5 Hungarian 11.71
6 Croatian 12.53
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.81
8 Austrian 14.56
9 North_Italian 15.9
10 East_German 16.21
11 Tuscan 16.64
12 West_German 18.12
13 French 18.56
14 Italian_Abruzzo 18.91
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.91
16 South_Polish 19.51
17 South_Dutch 19.74
18 Portuguese 19.82
19 West_Sicilian 19.91
20 Central_Greek 19.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Greek_Thessaly + 31.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.84
2 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 2.87
3 60.1% West_Sicilian + 39.9% Estonian @ 3.04
4 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Finnish @ 3.2
5 61.9% Croatian + 38.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.2
6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.22
7 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% Estonian @ 3.24
8 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
9 50.5% South_Polish + 49.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
10 56.4% West_Sicilian + 43.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
11 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 3.32
12 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Estonian @ 3.34
13 53.8% West_Sicilian + 46.2% Polish @ 3.37
14 58.6% Tuscan + 41.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.41
15 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
16 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Erzya @ 3.44
17 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Southwest_Russian @ 3.45
18 56% West_Sicilian + 44% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.48
19 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.49
20 67.5% Moldavian + 32.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.5
Yes, but in that district exist minorities of Balkan origin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
For example this Moldo/Bulgarian mixed village is neighbouring with Gura-Galbenei. Look at the surnames.
https://localitati.casata.md/index.p...litate&id=2942