Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Greeks are 70% Mycenaean like and 30% Slavic. I agree with this. Feiichy is right

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I agree with the 70% mycaenean, but this 30% Slavic when many others invaded Greece and from several parts of Europe from 6th century ad to 1500, it's impossible that only Slavs left impact and so high (30%)

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Slavs exist even today in modern Greek state, even hellenized Albanians aka Arvanites today

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Yes they do exist even today so do Gypsies in both Greek and Slavic countries

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Do you know what source this eupedia website is using? For all I know, it is basing E-V13 of Aegean islands that were repopulated with mainlanders. :icon_rolleyes:

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Gjunaidim Memleket Akdeniz
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Originally Posted by Dorian

Not really familiar with program things but If possible ,make it target those whose paternal grandfather part has Greece I guess?

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That filter removes all Greeks born overseas, I'm not sure if it will work well. I will add some filter options to the website later, so others can use it.

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

I agree with the 70% mycaenean, but this 30% Slavic when many others invaded Greece and from several parts of Europe from 6th century ad to 1500, it's impossible that only Slavs left impact and so high (30%)

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The 30% is mainly from North Greece that's why they say that

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

That filter removes all Greeks born overseas, I'm not sure if it will work well. I will add some filter options to the website later, so others can use it.

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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/im...ine=1586799453

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Do you know what source this eupedia website is using? For all I know, it is basing E-V13 of Aegean islands that were repopulated with mainlanders. :icon_rolleyes:

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No Aegean island recorded was repopulated by mainlanders and to a so high degree that the specific hg would reach 20%, let alone that lesvos for example (which if i am not mistaken is included in its sample) has never been repopulated by mainlanders in post classical ages

And notice that even Crete (which wasn't repopulated by mainlanders) has a higher percentage of ev13 than dodecanese, and as far as i know Crete autosomally plots north of dodeanese as well

I don't dispute that Slavic and other kinds of admixture may occurred in mainland but you underestimate the native levantine pregreek impact in dodecanese, which possibly increased through contacts of the dodecanese with Asia minor

Don't forget that Cyclades (with no exchanges with mainland recorded) or Ionian islands (my island has not even one slavic toponym) are almost intermediate to dodecanese and mainland, if not closer to mainland

https://youtu.be/7xql6L85GEk

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

No Aegean island recorded was repopulated by mainlanders and to a so high degree that the specific hg would reach 20%, let alone that lesvos for example (which if i am not mistaken is included in its sample) has never been repopulated by mainlanders in post classical ages

And notice that even Crete (which wasn't repopulated by mainlanders) has a higher percentage of ev13 than dodecanese, and as far as i know Crete autosomally plots north of dodeanese as well

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Crete doesn't have a high percentage of EV13 on the other hand Cyprus has higher percentage of it than Crete from what i remember

Now was Cyprus repopulated by Mainland Greeks too;)?

Also some people in West Asia(Kurds) have reasonable amount of EV13

Were Kurds repopulated by Mainland Greeks?

I2 forever

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

I don't care what White Nationalist accept - Slavo-Avar Turanid input is non existent in Greek phenotypes.

West Asian Caucasian sure
East Med Mediterranean sure

Slavo-Avar Turanid and Turk - get the fuck out.

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Originally Posted by gültekin

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Manos Kanellos
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I Google it but I didn't find him. Are you sure this guy is a Greek?

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Originally Posted by Mingle

So then how do you explain the high IBD sharing that Greeks have with Poles and Ukrainians?

https://i.imgur.com/tlLVmNo.png

The graph above was made by a Greek person (Dienekes).

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Because its full of shit. Every single PCA no matter the calculator the distance is way too far. People just need to use common sense not common fantasies.

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Originally Posted by Hahns

I Google it but I didn't find him. Are you sure this guy is a Greek?

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Macedonian

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

No Aegean island recorded was repopulated by mainlanders and to a so high degree that the specific hg would reach 20%, let alone that lesvos for example (which if i am not mistaken is included in its sample) has never been repopulated by mainlanders in post classical ages

And notice that even Crete (which wasn't repopulated by mainlanders) has a higher percentage of ev13 than dodecanese, and as far as i know Crete autosomally plots north of dodeanese as well

I don't dispute that Slavic and other kinds of admixture may occurred in mainland but you underestimate the native levantine pregreek impact in dodecanese, which possibly increased through contacts of the dodecanese with Asia minor

Don't forget that Cyclades (with no exchanges with mainland recorded) or Ionian islands (my island has not even one slavic toponym) are almost intermediate to dodecanese and mainland, if not closer to mainland

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:picard1: Simply not true. Samos, for example, was totally unoccupied for over a century before it was repopulated. Same thing surely happened to other islands during history, especially the ones closest to the mainland. Dodecanese are the most furthest and most isolated from mainland, more so than Crete. Islands like Kos are very west asian shifted, but that's not the case for every single Dodecanese island. Carian admixture is probably present in the Dodecanese but it's not Levantine, why do you call it Levantine? Anatolians are not Levantine. :picard1:

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Macedonian

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He doesn't look Greek, looks like a wog boy

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Originally Posted by Hahns

He doesn't look Greek, looks like a wog boy

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He looks I2 to me probably from the Slavophone villages

In Cyprus and Greek Islands we don't have such faces

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Originally Posted by gültekin

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Mind your own business you ugly small dick chink.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

He looks I2 to me probably from the Slavophone villages

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Not at all. These features look like Anatolians and Cypriots.

Either way he doesn't look Aryan

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

He looks I2 to me probably from the Slavophone villages

In Cyprus and Greek Islands we don't have such faces

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No Greek islands dont have those faces he will be atypical for Samos where he is from.

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

:picard1: Simply not true. Samos, for example, was totally unoccupied for over a century before it was repopulated. Same thing surely happened to other islands during history, especially the ones closest to the mainland. Dodecanese are the most furthest and most isolated from mainland, more so than Crete. Islands like Kos are very west asian shifted, but that's not the case for every single Dodecanese island. Carian admixture is probably present in the Dodecanese but it's not Levantine, why do you call it Levantine? Anatolians are not Levantine. :picard1:

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Samos was not repopulated exclusively by mainlanders or to be more precise most of its new population was not from the mainland! There was repopulation of the island from lesvos, asia minor dodecanese ikaria etc only a small part came from the mainland, and no nothing "surely happened to other islands" as there's no document supporting that, and again an example that directly comes to mind is lesvos and chios, both never repopulated by mainlanders in recent history, but they still have a basic difference from dodecanese: geographical distance from the levant, which results higher percentages of ev13. The same goes for paros naxos etc.. when did they lose their population to be repopulated and mostly by mainlanders?

And that's what i mean, yes dodecanese is the most distant from the mainland, but that was not different in antiquity, you know. If medieval invaders didn't reach dodecanese, ancient Greek invaders reached to a lower amount and assimilated a higher amount of levantine mixed natives as well. And again, there was no so decisive immigration from the mainland to Crete recorded to make the percentage of ev13 in Crete so significantly higher than dodecanese

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Originally Posted by Hahns

I Google it but I didn't find him. Are you sure this guy is a Greek?

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He is , from Samos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6lK7cY19Y

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Not at all. These features look like Anatolians and Cypriots.

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Not even close

Cypriots looke Mediterranean or if they realy look exotice Non European they look pre Turkic Anatolian like some Armenians or like Levantine
people which doesn't have anything to do with this phenotype.

You find more Turanid influence phenotype in Balkans North of Greece than in Cyprus (i mean among real Cypriot natives not recently imported Turkish occupiers they don't count)
Even your Aryan friend Anaximander from Epiros knows this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA1m5MH9AZI

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Either way he doesn't look Aryan

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Yes he doesn't

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

Samos was not repopulated exclusively by mainlanders or to be more precise most of its new population was not from the mainland! There was repopulation of the island from lesvos, asia minor dodecanese ikaria etc only a small part came from the mainland, and no nothing "surely happened to other islands" as there's no document supporting that, and again an example that directly comes to mind is lesvos and chios, both never repopulated by mainlanders in recent history, but they still have a basic difference from dodecanese: geographical distance from the levant, which results higher percentages of ev13. The same goes for paros naxos etc.. when did they lose their population to be repopulated and mostly by mainlanders?

And that's what i mean, yes dodecanese is the most distant from the mainland, but that was not different in antiquity, you know. If medieval invaders didn't reach dodecanese, ancient Greek invaders reached to a lower amount and assimilated a higher amount of levantine mixed natives as well. And again, there was no so decisive immigration from the mainland to Crete recorded to make the percentage of ev13 in Crete so significantly higher than dodecanese

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Can you please provide source of Y-DNA haplogroup of Chios? They actually have same admixture as Dodecanese, why would their Y Haplogroup distribution be different?

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

No Greek islands dont have those faces he will be atypical for Samos where he is from.

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He looks more Steppe than native Islander like people from your region or your cousins in Bitola were Vojnik is from

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

He looks more Steppe than native Islander like people from your region or your cousins in Bitola were Vojnik is from

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In your wet dreams only.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

He looks more Steppe than native Islander like people from your region or your cousins in Bitola were Vojnik is from

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WTF is your problem Cypriot?

Go and dance me some Arab.

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

Can you please provide source of Y-DNA haplogroup of Chios? They actually have same admixture as Dodecanese, why would their Y Haplogroup distribution be different?

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https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....r-Passa/page21

There was also additional links posted here one year ago i will try to find it

Again most of the islands with no single mainland immigration recorded are dominated by ev13

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Originally Posted by AncientGreek

That filter removes all Greeks born overseas, I'm not sure if it will work well. I will add some filter options to the website later, so others can use it.

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Again If possible ,as an extra filter/secondary , target a range of haplos/clades that have been found in Greeks and make the uploader sort out the surnames.Like create something out of the csv?resembling a platform only surnames appearing to be sorted out.

Although I don't think it's necessary ,majority puts Greece..you won't lose many.

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Originally Posted by gültekin

He is , from Samos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6lK7cY19Y

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Well as we learned here Samos was repopulated by Mainland Greeks

He is descended obviously from Macedonian Mainland Greek settlers:)

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Originally Posted by Hahns

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https://www.theapricity.com/forum/im...ine=1588584928

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Well as we learned here Samos was repopulated by Mainland Greeks

He is descended obviously from Macedonian Mainland Greek settlers:)

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No - we don't have Anatolian-Turkic vibes.

Sorry. He passes better in Cyprus.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

WTF is your problem Cypriot?

Go and dance me some Arab.

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My problem is the Slavophone Germanotsolias Hahns

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

No - we don't have Anatolian-Turkic vibes.

Sorry. He passes better in Cyprus.

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He pass in Slavophone regions of Greece

Go away Cypriot

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Originally Posted by Hahns

Go away Cypriot

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Go away Slav

Back to Slavonia

Greece is for Greeks not for Slavs

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

My problem is the Slavophone Germanotsolias Hahns

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Hanhs is a great Greek uniter - genetically Greek slavophones with zero MENA input under Hellas bossom.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Go away Slav

Back to Slavonia

Greece is for Greeks not for Slavs

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Greece will become an Islamic country soon boy, The Levantines arrive in huge numbers every day. Your kin.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Hanhs is a great Greek uniter - genetically Greek slavophones with zero MENA input under Hellas bossom.

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You waste your time with him