Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

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Originally Posted by Leto

Are these Armenians only from Armenia?
@harut,
when you average them, what does the outcome look like? The Armenians are one of the most homogeneous peoples I've seen. If you're Armenian from an Armenian family you probably don't even need to test because you're not going to score markedly different from the others :)

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They are from the same paper as Menas which I posted. It is said Armenia.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

They are form the same paper as Menas which I posted. It is said from Armenia.

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I know the source.
By the way, since you're here, "Turkmen", "Turkmen_Iraq" and the duplicate "Turkmen_Iran" should be deleted. The Iraq one is just two or three samples and not really needed. I think Kyp agrees with this.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Are these Armenians only from Armenia?
@harut,
when you average them, what does the outcome look like? The Armenians are one of the most homogeneous peoples I've seen. If you're Armenian from an Armenian family you probably don't even need to test because you're not going to score markedly different from the others :)

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I'm not sure if they are from Armenia Armenians from samples look more like on Armenians from south east and central anatolia they can be from Syria and Lebanon some even closer to the Anatolia Greeks and Cypriot and to the Alawites than to Armenians

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Originally Posted by Aren

11 Jordanian Christians. Can't be sure but they score 0% SSA and their Atlantic_Med is high.

Jordan_Christian,8.53,0.12,4.85,0.17,15.1,1.09,0.1 6,1.73,25.8,0.17,42.28,0

Very similar to my SW Syrian Christian and Palestinian Christian averages, as expected.

Jordan_Muslim,10.35,0.16,5.57,0.26,12.6,1.84,1.1,5 .09,25.03,0.41,35.63,1.99

I excluded one Circassian-like outlier and one that looked straight up Egyptian. Let's hope they sampled actual Jordanians and not recent Palestinian refugees.

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So we can safely remove the legacy Jordanian

Distance to: Jordan_Muslim
1.64438438 Palestinian
3.19632602 Syrian_C
4.42631901 Jordanians
7.95291770 Syrian_A
8.33910067 Lebanese_Muslim
8.57569822 Syria_SW_Christian
8.88602273 Palestinian_Christian
9.63137456 Egyptian
9.86044624 Lebanese_Christian
10.39246362 Syrian_B

Distance: 0.5003% / 0.50030637
Target: Jordan_Muslim | ADC: 0.5x RC
93.0 Palestinian
4.6 Yemenite_mixed
2.4 Kuwait1

Distance to: Jordan_Christian
1.17698768 Syria_SW_Christian
1.38191896 Palestinian_Christian
3.46327879 Lebanese_Christian
7.27697739 Syrian_A
7.41520735 Lebanese_Muslim
7.49584552 Palestinian
7.57169730 Jordanians
8.00046874 Nusayri_Turkey
8.11990148 Syrian_C
10.23439300 Greek_Cypriot

Distance: 0.6429% / 0.64288344
Target: Jordan_Christian | ADC: 0.5x RC
74.2 Palestinian_Christian
19.4 Syria_SW_Christian
6.4 Coptic

Found these Turks in my match list:

Spoiler!

Kit FE4205364

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 26.14
2 East_Med 25.2
3 West_Med 12.38
4 North_Atlantic 9.66
5 Siberian 9.39
6 Baltic 5.4
7 Red_Sea 4.36
8 South_Asian 3.54
9 Amerindian 1.5
10 East_Asian 1.48
11 Northeast_African 0.95

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.52
2 Azeri 12.62
3 Turkmen 14.98
4 Kurdish 17.88
5 Central_Greek 18.07
6 Kumyk 18.13
7 Lebanese_Muslim 18.23
8 Armenian 18.37
9 Georgian_Jewish 18.54
10 Iranian 18.56
11 East_Sicilian 18.58
12 Assyrian 18.65
13 South_Italian 18.71
14 Syrian 18.92
15 Nogay 19.33
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.38
17 Cyprian 19.66
18 Ashkenazi 20.18
19 Iranian_Jewish 20.43
20 Sephardic_Jewish 20.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Turkish + 11% Ket @ 3.89
2 89.3% Turkish + 10.7% Selkup @ 3.97
3 90.6% Turkish + 9.4% Koryak @ 4.29
4 91.2% Turkish + 8.8% Dolgan @ 4.35
5 90.4% Turkish + 9.6% Chukchi @ 4.39
6 86.6% Turkish + 13.4% Shors @ 4.4
7 91.8% Turkish + 8.2% Evens @ 4.54
8 91.8% Turkish + 8.2% Evenki @ 4.59
9 91.4% Turkish + 8.6% Yakut @ 4.7
10 87.6% Turkish + 12.4% Hakas @ 4.79
11 88.6% Turkish + 11.4% Altaian @ 5
12 90% Turkish + 10% Tuvinian @ 5.02
13 91.9% Turkish + 8.1% Oroqen @ 5.25
14 50.5% Nogay + 49.5% Cyprian @ 5.3
15 90.2% Turkish + 9.8% West_Greenlander @ 5.32
16 79.8% Turkish + 20.2% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.37
17 90.7% Turkish + 9.3% Buryat @ 5.41
18 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% Mari @ 5.41
19 86.9% Turkish + 13.1% Kazakh @ 5.41
20 91.4% Turkish + 8.6% East_Greenlander @ 5.55

Spoiler!

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.86
2 West_Asian 27.53
3 North_Atlantic 11.91
4 West_Med 9.1
5 Baltic 8.3
6 Siberian 3.62
7 South_Asian 3.46
8 Red_Sea 3.16
9 East_Asian 3.06
10 Amerindian 0.76
11 Oceanian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.12
2 Azeri 10.06
3 Kurdish 15.34
4 Turkmen 15.75
5 Georgian_Jewish 16.1
6 Assyrian 16.18
7 Iranian 16.26
8 Armenian 16.27
9 Kumyk 16.28
10 Lebanese_Muslim 16.73
11 Central_Greek 16.95
12 East_Sicilian 17.79
13 Iranian_Jewish 17.99
14 South_Italian 18.12
15 Syrian 18.2
16 Italian_Abruzzo 18.2
17 Kurdish_Jewish 18.57
18 Cyprian 18.6
19 Ashkenazi 18.79
20 Sephardic_Jewish 19.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.9% Turkish + 10.1% La_Brana-1 @ 3.82
2 89.2% Turkish + 10.8% North_Swedish @ 3.95
3 89.6% Turkish + 10.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.02
4 89.9% Turkish + 10.1% Finnish @ 4.11
5 89.3% Turkish + 10.7% Swedish @ 4.12
6 86.2% Turkish + 13.8% Hungarian @ 4.15
7 89.4% Turkish + 10.6% Norwegian @ 4.18
8 88.6% Turkish + 11.4% North_German @ 4.19
9 89.1% Turkish + 10.9% Danish @ 4.2
10 90.3% Turkish + 9.7% Estonian @ 4.27
11 89.2% Turkish + 10.8% North_Dutch @ 4.28
12 88.4% Turkish + 11.6% South_Polish @ 4.32
13 90.2% Turkish + 9.8% East_Finnish @ 4.32
14 89.7% Turkish + 10.3% Belorussian @ 4.34
15 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Austrian @ 4.35
16 68.7% Azeri + 31.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.36
17 87.9% Turkish + 12.1% East_German @ 4.38
18 89.5% Turkish + 10.5% Orcadian @ 4.43
19 72.7% Azeri + 27.3% Bulgarian @ 4.43
20 89% Turkish + 11% Southwest_Russian @ 4.44

Central Anatolian Kurd from Aksaray, originally from Adiyaman, Urfa and Gaziantep.

Gedrosian: 25.61 Pct
Siberian: 0.65 pct
Northwest_African: 1.00 pct
Southeast_Asian: 1.00 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 6.89 Pct
North_European: 6.80 Pct
South_Asian: 2.89 Pct
East_African: 0.00 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 14.20 Pct
East_Asian: 0.82 Pct
Caucasus: 40.14 pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.00 Pct

Distance to: Aks_Kurd
4.04163333 Kurd
4.15268588 Kurds
4.42998871 Iranian
7.15728999 Iranians
9.17784288 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.73150392 Turks
15.86419869 Azerbaijan_Jews
15.98458007 Iranian_Jews
16.17120898 Georgia_Jews
16.35435110 Turkish
16.55302993 Assyrian
17.28024595 Turkmens
17.51772816 Iraq_Jews
18.02162035 Armenians_15
19.02635015 Armenian
19.25426706 Lebanese
19.31058777 Kumyks
21.16115072 Syrians
22.91353094 Druze
22.92009599 Armenians
23.59098981 Jordanians
23.63731795 Lezgins
25.76638896 Chechens
26.30548232 Cypriots
27.14064295 Palestinian

Target: Aks_Kurd
39.9 Kurd
33.5 Kurds
15.9 Uzbekistan_Jews
4.7 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
4.0 Bulgarian
1.1 Lebanese
0.9 PANIYA

Feyli Kurd(or Luri?) from Iran. True Zagros mountaineer:

Gedrosian: 31.18 Pct
Siberian: 1.81 pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.6 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.98 Pct
North_European: 3.09 Pct
South_Asian: 2.08 Pct
East_African: 0.18Pct
Southwest_Asian: 14.52 Pct
East_Asian: 0.34 Pct
Caucasus: 40.70 pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.52 Pct

Distance to: Iran_Feyli
4.61967531 Lur_Iran
4.68257408 Iranian
5.59168132 Kurd_KAZ
6.97196529 Iran_Mazandaran
7.57238404 Yazidi
7.82169419 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.77928813 Kurd_Sorani
8.96656567 Iranian_Fars
9.03476618 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.28400776 Zaza
10.74600391 Turkmen_Iraq
11.70175201 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.56448672 Azerbaijani
13.65669433 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.68112934 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.41818643 Mandean
14.45671816 Iran_Khorasan
15.14493975 Iraqi_Baghdad
15.55261714 Iranian_Jew
15.59247254 Azeri_Jew
15.99154777 Turk_Southeast
16.04581565 Turk_East
16.34808246 Assyrian_North
16.62200048 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.75674491 Assyrian_South

Target: Iran_Feyli
54.7 Kurd_KAZ
32.9 Lur_Iran
7.3 Balochi
5.1 Iran_Mazandaran

Persian either from Yazd or Kerman

Gedrosian: 30.60
Siberian: 1.21
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.26
North_European: 8.08
South_Asian: 5.47
East_African: 1.10
Southwest_Asian: 10.97
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 35.21
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Persian_Zoroastrian
5.51322047 Iranian_Fars
6.52486015 Iran_Mazandaran
6.64635238 Iranian
7.40384360 Yazidi
7.64149200 Iran_Khorasan
7.67192935 Lur_Iran
9.10594311 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.21489555 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.26800950 Kurd_Sorani
9.85498858 Kurd_KAZ
10.55015166 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.66871595 Zaza
11.66004288 Azerbaijani
11.81895511 Turkmen_Iraq
12.65567067 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.03960889 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.44122390 Parsi_India
14.59060314 Turk_Southeast
14.67404852 Iran_Bandari
15.28060208 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.44889316 Turkmen
16.41330558 Lezgin
16.44181559 Tajik_Herat
16.46334413 Iraqi_Baghdad
16.74399892 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan

Distance: 2.7173% / 2.71731089
Target: Persian_Zoroastrian | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Iran_Mazandaran
26.1 Yazidi
18.4 Iranian_Fars
16.3 Yagnobi

Azerbaijani (Qajar tribe) from Republic + Tat:

Gedrosian: 19.02
Siberian: 2.15
Northwest_African: 1.59
Southeast_Asian: 0.12
Atlantic_Med: 5.88
North_European: 11.28
South_Asian: 0.87
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.61
East_Asian: 3.16
Caucasus: 42.93
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat
5.90249947 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.59970454 Azerbaijani
6.65053381 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.94193777 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.08042372 Turk_East
7.78772110 Zaza
7.85344510 Turk_Southeast
8.25069088 Turk_Central_East
8.43142337 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.58772380 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.48196182 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.49253391 Turk_South
9.68777580 Turkmen_Iraq
9.76933468 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.21695160 Kurd_Sorani
10.51276843 Kurd_KAZ
10.64751614 Yazidi
10.76941967 Turk_Central_West
10.84858516 Armenian_East
11.34913213 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.78862587 Turk_Ahiska
11.90882446 Ingush
11.97917777 Circassian
12.16000411 Iranian
12.18364888 Karachay

Distance: 1.5940% / 1.59403915
Target: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Kumyks
25.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.5 Yemenite_Mahra
10.1 Azerbaijani

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Target: Azerbaijani_Qajar/Tat | ADC: 0.5x RC
39.2 Kumyks
25.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.7 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.5 Yemenite_Mahra
10.1 Azerbaijani

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How does a Tat result look like?

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Originally Posted by Gecko

How does a Tat result look like?

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We only have seen one result so far.
I think them living in northern regions they are slightly northern/Caucasus shifted and obviously without significant East Eurasian

I expect them to have slightly higher NorthEuro and less South_Asian than average Azerbaijani.

The question is were all Tats like this or just the remaining ones.