K36 by chromosome:
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...c2689b9487.jpg
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K36 by chromosome:
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/x...c2689b9487.jpg
East_Med 16.22%
Near_Eastern 13.20%
Italian 11.66%
French 10.06%
Iberian 9.38%
North_Sea 7.39%
North_Atlantic 6.52%
Arabian 6.49%
Armenian 4.54%
North_Caucasian 4.38%
East_Balkan 2.59%
Central_Euro 2.44%
West_Med 1.66%
South_Central_Asian 1.27%
North_African 0.95%
East_African 0.40%
West_African 0.31%
Fennoscandian 0.26%
Eastern_Euro 0.24%
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/9545/fp02.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/9979/fp01.png
You have to remove the Iberian cluster from the F file first, but when I opened the F file I wasn't certain about what I should delete.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark
Amerindian -
Arabian 1.64%
Armenian 4.46%
Basque 0.98%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.46%
East_African 1.31%
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.11%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.68%
East_Med 6.16%
Eastern_Euro 5.13%
Fennoscandian 5.07%
French 7.60%
Iberian 9.59%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 12.42%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.14%
North_African 1.06%
North_Atlantic 2.68%
North_Caucasian 6.03%
North_Sea 13.25%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.35%
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.87%
My results using East Iberian and West Iberian:
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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14.70% Italian
12.11% North_Sea
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9.61% West_Iberian
9.57% North_Atlantic
8.52% West_Med
8.14% East_Iberian
7.37% French
5.62% Central_Euro
4.91% North_African
3.15% Arabian
2.95% East_Med
2.92% Basque
2.74% Fennoscandian
2.42% East_Balkan
2.19% Near_Eastern
1.52% Volga-Ural
1.23% Northeast_African
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0.18% East_Central_Euro
0.11% Omotic
0.01% Oceanian
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0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Armenian
0.00% Central_African
0.00% East_African
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% Eastern_Euro
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Malayan
0.00% North_Caucasian
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% West_African
0.00% West_Caucasian
Do you know how they were split? Because there are three clear clusters: Galicians, Catalans and Castillians.. East, West and Center.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander
I have no idea. Maybe you could ask Polako.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Delarge
The new K36 is interesting....but we've gone too far (imo). I mean it's intriguing to see so many variants, but i don't really believe in the existence of "french genes" or "italian genes" (both the countries are too mixed to have "specific genes"). It's impossible. It's the result of a somewhat subjective selection of sapmples to obtain something you wish.
The job is fine, but looks like an attempt to imitate the standards of 23andMe etc. (many intriguing categories).
Personally i still prefer things like Eutest, or K12-13
Personally, I'm hoping for a K100 (the advanced overnight edition)! :) - using more populations groups such as Poland, Portugal, etc...
i don't think Italian is very mixed in North or central and with France well is clear that had influences of their neightbour, but perhaps the French component is another derivation of Pirineos as refugeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hussar
You could probably drop the French one. They're getting squeezed by the neighbouring clusters.
Italy is actually Northern Italy & Tuscany.
How do you know that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3...dW8/edit?pli=1Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli
Northern Italy -- 13 samples
Tuscany -- 88 Samples
So mainly Tuscany.
Tried a run without France, to see how it would turn out..Here's the difference. Iberia & Italy make the biggest gains, with Western Europe.
Without France
23.07% North_Sea +1.44%
19.11% North_Atlantic +1.92%
11.59% Fennoscandian +0.65%
10.90% Iberian +2.15%
10.05% Italian +2.10%
8.42% Central_Euro +0.58%
5.93% East_Central_Euro +0.50
5.71% Eastern_Euro +0.48%
4.62% Basque +0.38%
0.59% West_Med +0.30%
0.01% Armenian +0.01%
Without Italy
22.34% North_Sea +0.71%
18.49% North_Atlantic 0.57%
11.58% Iberian +2.83%
10.92% Fennoscandian -0.02
10.53% France +0.76%
8.51% Central_Euro +0.67
5.80% East_Central_Euro +0.37
5.44% Eastern_Euro +0.21
4.47% Basque +0.23
1.22% West_Med +0.93
0.64% Armenian +0.64%
0.05% North_Caucasian +0.05%
0.02% South_Central_Asian +0.02%
Without Basque
22.01% North_Sea +0.38%
18.26% North_Atlantic +0.36%
11.06% Iberian +2.31%
10.94% Fennoscandian 0.00%
10.09% France +0.32%
8.43% Italy +0.48%
7.95% Central_Euro +0.11%
5.50% East_Central_Euro +0.07%
5.23% Eastern_Euro 0.00%
0.52% West_Med +0.23%
Without Iberia
22.51% North_Sea +0.88%
18.86% North_Atlantic +0.94%
11.19% Fennoscandian +0.25%
10.57% France +0.80%
10.93% Italy +2.98%
8.31% Central_Euro +0.47%
5.76% East_Central_Euro +0.54%
5.41% Eastern_Euro +0.18
5.29% Basque +1.05
1.14% West_Med +0.85%
0.03% Armenian +0.03%
Without North Atlantic
25.82% North_Sea +4.19%
12.99% Fennoscandian +2.05%
12.26% Iberian +3.51%
11.42% French +1.65%
10.11% Italian +2.16%
9.31% Central_Euro +1.47%
6.75% East_Central_Euro +1.32
6.18% Eastern_Euro +0.95%
4.80% Basque +0.56%
0.29% West_Med +0.07%
Without North Sea
22.30% North_Atlantic +4.38%
13.98% Fennoscandian +3.04%
12.23% Iberia +3.48%
11.89% France +2.12%
10.77% Italy +2.82%
9.85% Central_Euro +2.01%
7.03% East_Central_Euro +1.60%
6.79% Eastern_Euro +1.56%
4.90% Basque +0.66
0.25% West_Med -0.04
Personally i think the way forward lies in more and more advanced clusters, but i think this new run is too exclusive with regards to samples for it to be anything other then selective and crude...
Without Iberian, Italian, and Basque clusters:
17.02% North_Sea (+ 5.81%)
14.23% North_Atlantic (+ 5.69%)
12.98% West_Med (+ 5.22%)
11.31% French (+ 4.76%)
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8.19% Central_Euro (+ 3.05%)
7.25% East_Med (+ 4.54%)
6.61% North_African (+ 2.01%)
5.90% Near_Eastern (+ 3.93%)
4.72% East_Balkan (+ 2.63%)
4.06% Fennoscandian (+ 1.61%)
3.62% Arabian (+ 0.55%)
1.67% East_Central_Euro (+ 1.56%)
1.52% Volga-Ural (- 0.03%)
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0.82% Northeast_African (- 0.46%)
0.06% Eastern_Euro (+ 0.06%)
0.03% North_Caucasian (+ 0.03%)
0.01% Armenian (+ 0.01%)
0.01% Omotic (- 0.16%)
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0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Central_African
0.00% East_African
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Malayan
0.00% Oceanian (- 0.03%)
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Chinese
0.00% West_African
0.00% West_Caucasian
K4 (edited down from k36)
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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28.49% Italian
24.89% Near_Eastern
24.17% Iberian
22.45% East_Med
Special thanks to Atlantic Islander for all her help! :)
K4! :P K1 would be best.
K1Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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100.00% Human_Being
Your inner Britishness showing through there. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Atlantic Islander
It shows how well, western Europe in connected.
Lol :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
I just copied Kadu - strip away the main components to see where it goes.
East_Central_Euro 14.78%
North_Atlantic 11.74%
Eastern_Euro 11.45%
French 9.44%
Italian 9.35%
Iberian 9.12%
Fennoscandian 8.56%
East_Balkan 7.86%
Central_Euro 5.75%
North_Sea 5.72%
Armenian 2.54%
East_Med 1.77%
West_Med 1.36%
Basque 0.55%
Another Turkish user's results
K13
Mediterranean 22.49%
Caucasus 22.17%
West Central Asian 16.40%
North European 15.04%
Southwest Asian 8.24%
East Asian 6.13%
North Eurasian 5.86%
South Asian 2.19%
East Siberian 0.68%
Amerindian 0.43%
Northeast African 0.26%
West African 0.11%
Pygmy -
K36
East_Med 15.83%
Near_Eastern 13.42%
North_Caucasian 9.67%
West_Caucasian 9.41%
Italian 7.35%
East_Central_Asian 6.86%
East_Balkan 5.07%
Armenian 4.78%
Arabian 4.76%
Fennoscandian 3.97%
Siberian 3.78%
Eastern_Euro 2.64%
East_Central_Euro 2.57%
Central_Euro 2.32%
South_Central_Asian 2.13%
South_Asian 1.58%
West_Med 1.32%
Iberian 1.31%
Basque 0.80%
East_Asian 0.29%
French 0.12%
Eurogenes K13 Turkish Members
http://www.abload.de/img/k137sj91.png
Seems the 'Mongoloid' varies a fair bit, i guess it's partly due to ancestry from different regions?Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Yes indeed, Turkey is a great country shares border with many nations.. Western Turks usually score more ''Mongoloid''.. Though this chart is crowded with Northeast Turks -8 out of 12 participants have part or full ancestry from Northeast Turkey- where Mongoloid is the lowest overall in Turkey.. Need more central, western, southern samples..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
I got bored and have done a PCA plot with Turkish users' K13 results
http://www.abload.de/img/k13_pca2fpjuj.png
What scores did you base that on? Good idea. :) Wouldn't know how to do that.
Interesting, annihilus seems to be quite unique. Where does he cluster I wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Didn't Annihilus have some ancestry from the Balkans, if I remember correctly?
I used XLSTAT for PCA, it's fairly easy to use..Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
It appears so, but i dont know exactly..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
His father is from Western Thrace with roots from Crimea/Ukraine somewhere if I remember right. Ethnic Turk though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pallantides
He's a Khazar, the last one.
Could you show the other PCA plot as well? the one with the direction of the components you included (west asian, european etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
F2 and F3, both includes all variables.. Though, (F1:F2) or (F1:F3) looks like a flat line, so it doesnt make sense (F4 is useless)..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazik
http://www.abload.de/img/plotswqsal.png
PCA of north euro members + some more.
http://s24.postimg.org/50xvpddhx/euk36.jpg
I used the northwest europe, central_east europe, north eurasian and southwest europe scores that Graham added before :)
I will add more tonight.
^^Shows West Norwegian Evon closer with us.
Good stuff. :)
North West, North Central & North East.. :P
http://imageshack.us/a/img69/7269/mapxqm.jpg
This time PCA map is based on the distance between individuals of 13 categories.. Partizan is the most average ''Turk'' while Orange's Aunt and Annihilus are opposite extremes
http://www.abload.de/img/k13_distancessxuue.png
http://www.abload.de/img/k13_pca_mapb0uwn.png
Same goes for Apricity members that i could found their results
http://www.abload.de/img/apricitpca6ou0b.png..