Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

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Originally Posted by Aren

Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.

Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82

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Looks like Iranian Arabs are the same as Iraqis

Distance to: Iraqi_Arab
3.59956942 Iran_Arab
7.15288753 Iraqi_Baghdad
9.46301221 Palestinian
9.55482601 Syrian_C
10.20746296 Jordanians
10.89069787 Syrian_B
11.90997901 Lebanese_Muslim
12.08127063 Syrian_A
12.52690305 Mandean
12.53447247 Turkmen_Iraq
12.74752917 Iranian_Jew
13.06357531 Iraqi_Jew
13.34807102 Kurdish_Jew
14.09305148 Kurd_Sorani
14.29671990 Syria_SW_Christian
14.49234281 Palestinian_Christian
14.73541991 Lebanese_Christian
14.87911960 Nusayri_Turkey
15.16834862 Turk_Southeast
15.75660814 Assyrian_South
15.76465667 Azeri_Jew
16.27394851 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.28720357 Assyrian_North
16.28911293 Assyrian_West
16.30501322 Egyptian

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Originally Posted by Aren

Here's the Iraqi average, exluding Assyrians/Mandeans and Kurds. Also like you mentioned I exluded two European or half European outliers.
This one is significantly more Arab shifted than the Baghdadi average I made out of the Iraqi project samples.

Iraqi_Arab,16.56,0.45,2.95,0.27,8.15,3,3.31,3.67,2 5.43,0.78,33.56,1.82

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Good. Now the Arabs are finished, I can post them in the Vahaduo thread. Are we replacing your Lebanese? I'd say let's go with this new data, your Lebanese Christian is almost identical to the new one anyway.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Good. Now the Arabs are finished, I can post them in the Vahaduo thread. Are we replacing your Lebanese? I'd say let's go with this new data, your Lebanese Christian is almost identical to the new one anyway.

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Yes replace my Lebanese. Considering my old one is a bit more SW Asians shifted it's possible I had included some Lebanese who were part Syrian, Jordanian or Palestinian Christian since really no one from the Middle East has gedcoms/wikitrees.
Add the Iraqi Arab for now, I'll do a better Iraqi average soon. Don't add the Assyrian average from this paper we don't know for sure if all of them are Assyrian unlike the kits I used for my averages. And definitely remove the old Lebanese, Syrian and Jordanian Arab averages for these new ones IMO.

Local Sunni Turk from Kars:

Gedrosian: 20.84
Siberian: 0.69
Northwest_African: 0.77
Southeast_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 7.39
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian: 0.31
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.77
East_Asian: 2.20
Caucasus: 47.37
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Kars_Sunni
3.35944936 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.90679121 Turk_East
6.24568651 Armenian_East
6.81826958 Zaza
7.06295264 Turk_Ahiska
7.89741097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.33465656 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.68665643 Armenian_West
8.78356989 Kurd_KAZ
8.94819535 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.11229938 Azeri_Jew
9.12875676 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.47227533 Assyrian_North
9.85565320 Azerbaijani
10.01392530 Assyrian_South
10.03341916 Georgian
10.09556338 Assyrian_West
10.18288270 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.29870866 Turkmen_Iraq
10.81088803 Kurd_Sorani
10.87788582 Turk_Southeast
10.88137859 Yazidi
10.95993157 Turk_Central_East
11.02107527 Hemshin
11.56997839 Greek_Pontus

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Local Sunni Turk from Kars:

Gedrosian: 20.84
Siberian: 0.69
Northwest_African: 0.77
Southeast_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 7.39
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian: 0.31
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.77
East_Asian: 2.20
Caucasus: 47.37
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Kars_Sunni
3.35944936 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.90679121 Turk_East
6.24568651 Armenian_East
6.81826958 Zaza
7.06295264 Turk_Ahiska
7.89741097 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.33465656 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.68665643 Armenian_West
8.78356989 Kurd_KAZ
8.94819535 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.11229938 Azeri_Jew
9.12875676 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.47227533 Assyrian_North
9.85565320 Azerbaijani
10.01392530 Assyrian_South
10.03341916 Georgian
10.09556338 Assyrian_West
10.18288270 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.29870866 Turkmen_Iraq
10.81088803 Kurd_Sorani
10.87788582 Turk_Southeast
10.88137859 Yazidi
10.95993157 Turk_Central_East
11.02107527 Hemshin
11.56997839 Greek_Pontus

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What about Mixed mode? Different from the Shia and the one Alevi Turk from Kars who made a thread a while ago.

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Originally Posted by Fedora

What about Mixed mode? Different from the Shia and the one Alevi Turk from Kars who made a thread a while ago.

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Not really saying much that's why I left it out:

Distance: 0.9255% / 0.92546700
Target: Kars_Sunni | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Turk_Ahiska
31.5 Azeri_Jew
20.1 Kurd_KAZ
13.6 Kumyks
1.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.4 Japanese

Shias are all Azeri right? They score close to other Azerbaijanis. "Azerbaijani_Turkey" is the reference for them. Don't know about the Alevi ones.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Not really saying much that's why I left it out:

Distance: 0.9255% / 0.92546700
Target: Kars_Sunni | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 Turk_Ahiska
31.5 Azeri_Jew
20.1 Kurd_KAZ
13.6 Kumyks
1.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.4 Japanese

Shias are all Azeri right? They score close to other Azerbaijanis. "Azerbaijani_Turkey" is tthe reference for them. Don't know about the Alevi ones.

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This is an Alevi from Kars:
Gedrosian: 18.32
Siberian: 2.25
Northwest_African:0
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 10,29
North_European: 8.22
South_Asian: 3.9
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.13
East_Asian: 3.09
Caucasus: 41,83
Sub_Saharan: 0.00
Well, the Shia ones are what they call "Yerazli" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeraz

Probably Zaza? from Tunceli?, very "steppe"-shifted, one of the highest NE among Zazas/Kurds:

Gedrosian: 25.18 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: 2.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 6.87 Pct
North_European: 10.32 Pct
South_Asian: 2.53 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 10.03 Pct
East_Asian: 1.77 Pct
Caucasus: 40.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

Distance to: Kurd?/zaza?
4.58940083 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.86478474 Zaza
5.97264598 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.01099825 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.56762514 Yazidi
7.00701077 Kurd_KAZ
7.06628615 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.07754195 Azerbaijani
7.24249957 Iranian
7.58233473 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.90194913 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.00814585 Kurd_Sorani
8.82878814 Lur_Iran
9.40440854 Turkmen_Iraq
9.74241243 Iranian_Fars
9.87668973 Iran_Mazandaran
10.33140358 Turk_Southeast
10.39399346 Turk_East
10.69081381 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
11.35632863 Iran_Khorasan
11.89060974 Ingush
12.07605896 Turk_Central_East
13.10540728 Turk_South
13.66687601 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.96993200 Lezgin

Distance: 1.9423% / 1.94232087
Target: Kurd?/zaza? | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.5 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.2 Lezgin
9.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.3 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
3.0 Algerian

Armenians. Two of them have slightly elevated North European

Gedrosia 17.3 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.35 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.34 Pct
North_European 7.25 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.25 Pct
East_Asian 0.71 Pct
Caucasus 47.8 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Natalie
3.00061660 Armenian_East
3.79311218 Turk_East
5.20888664 Armenian_West
5.69719229 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.73345977 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.77469614 Assyrian_West
7.91665965 Assyrian_North
8.10401752 Azeri_Jew
8.21336107 Greek_Pontus
8.23951455 Assyrian_South

Distance: 0.9058% / 0.90581082
Target: Natalie | ADC: 0.25x RC
68.5 Armenian_East
21.5 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.0 Italian_Calabria


Gedrosia 16.04 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.6 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.48 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.51 Pct
North_European 7.51 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.18 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Sargis
3.09688553 Armenian_East
4.79305748 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.64659189 Turk_Ahiska
5.74714712 Greek_Pontus
6.32060124 Hemshin
6.33611079 Armenian_West
6.94910786 Turk_East
7.24227174 Laz
7.95342693 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.69177772 Georgian

Distance: 1.2258% / 1.22584162
Target: Sargis | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.0 Armenian_East
25.3 Georgian_Gurian
11.7 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.4 Coptic
0.6 Lithuanian

Distance: 2.1202% / 2.12016430
Target: Sargis | ADC: 0.5x RC
77.2 Armenian_East
13.2 Georgian_Gurian
9.6 Turk_East_Black_Sea


J-M267
J1a2

Gedrosia 18.67 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.75 Pct
North_European 5.31 Pct
South_Asian 0.18 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.5 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 48.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Arshavir
3.33459143 Armenian_East
3.38595629 Armenian_West
4.75509201 Assyrian_North
4.83223551 Azeri_Jew
4.99066128 Assyrian_West
5.25423639 Assyrian_South
5.32673446 Turk_East
6.04415420 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.04763319 Iranian_Jew
8.24254208 Kurdish_Jew

Distance: 0.8300% / 0.82998018
Target: Arshavir | ADC: 0.25x RC
39.1 Assyrian_West
30.0 Armenian_East
27.3 Udi_Azerbaijan
3.6 Armenian_West

I made an avg out of all Azerbaijanis from Karabakh (n=12):

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Azerbaijani_Karabakh,21.76,2.01,0.72,0.51,8.53,8.28,2.76,0.31,12.69,2.23,40.00,0.18

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Gedrosian: 21.76
Siberian: 2.01
Northwest_African: 0.72
Southeast_Asian: 0.51
Atlantic_Med: 8.53
North_European: 8.28
South_Asian: 2.76
East_African 0.31
Southwest_Asian: 12.69
East_Asian: 2.23
Caucasian: 40.00
Sub_Saharan: 0.18

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Karabakh
1.60521027 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.64510869 Azerbaijani
2.71400074 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.50937316 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.85386819 Zaza
5.11663952 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.18423572 Turk_Southeast
5.38871970 Turkmen_Iraq
5.51567766 Yazidi
5.65202619 Kurd_Sorani
6.99415470 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.44094752 Turk_East
7.72173556 Kurd_KAZ
7.78831176 Turk_Central_East
8.22557597 Lur_Iran
8.23581204 Iranian
8.96933108 Turk_South
9.44301859 Iranian_Fars
9.66769362 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.18668248 Turk_Central_West
10.22568824 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.69785960 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.17000448 Syrian_B
11.70192292 Iran_Khorasan
11.92564883 Azeri_Jew

Distance: 0.4982% / 0.49816586
Target: Azerbaijani_Karabakh | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.6 Azerbaijani
31.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
27.9 Zaza
4.3 Turk_East
1.2 Udi_Azerbaijan

Distance: 1.0336% / 1.03364259
Target: Azerbaijani_Karabakh | ADC: 1x RC
75.1 Azerbaijani_Iran
24.9 Zaza