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Usually i'm on the eastern part of the Iberian cluster, closer to italians. In your map it's the opposite. Must be because there are no Basques there, since it's probably they who push everyone else west due to my low Basque score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Ahh thank you sir, you've made me happier. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Yeah its a good sign that both are reliable.
I think my position if different on each one because of my random admixture, at least its cool to see where i would be without it on your map. I also noticed they are oriented a bit differently, and also the Finns are really important, without them the map would be much less accurate. I find that removing the Finns can cause it to sort of fall apart. :D
Iberians seem quite alone and isolated over there on these PCA plots. It's no surprise the Italians and Balkanians cluster near one another though.
It's correct, and in line with other plots:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikeliot
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JaGiUw4mQm...ms132060f1.jpg
Aye, I have Heraus as S.W France. He's Half Basque I think? It's quite cool how, things change as you add more. I like my map. Perhaps I'll go though and add the Asian clusters. Which should take about a Year. Haha..Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Delarge
http://imageshack.us/a/img163/8015/map1df.png
Pallantides is so pissed off because I'm more Norwegian than him! muahahahaha! (joking)
Include the African and you'll find me in the Congo.
He's 100% Gascon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
So I'm a Balkanoid! Interesting development!Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Yeah your ancestry from both North West & South East pulls you in. You sit closest to the Balkans.
Think i prefer yours to mine, a lot cleaner. It's K36 right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Interesting how north France moved away again.
And also how the Danish sit (or probably sit) in the north-central cluster rather than with Norwegians/Swedish (although this is also visible on other PCAs). Do you mind adding in my grandfather and mother (if just for one run, to save it getting too cluttered)? I'm interested to see where they end up on this K36. I suspect my mother would be close to northern France:
Grandfather:
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.78%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 10.78%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.04%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.26%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.35%
Fennoscandian 8.36%
French 6.15%
Iberian 11.61%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.13%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 13.67%
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 21.95%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.79%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.15%
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -
Mother:
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 3.98%
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.90%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.77%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 10.19%
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 5.35%
Fennoscandian 5.23%
French 5.58%
Iberian 8.55%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 8.27%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 14.27%
North_Caucasian 1.45%
North_Sea 17.07%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.19%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.44%
West_Med 1.76%
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
My aunt's husband is American of İrish/British origin, İ believe he is plotting in accordance to his origin?
İ am inclining towards the Caucasus, İm sure my aunt would plot in the Caucasus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Yes definitely so!Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepulp
He seems both more Celtic and more continental, where in Britain is that part of his ancestry from?
And on this one Otto and I are in mid-air again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I'm not exactly sure as he is not a first generation American. I don't even think he knows exactly which parts of England and Ireland he is originally from. His father also just got tested. If you want I can add you from their account on 23andme?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
I'm adding & adding & you're getting near to the Polish so far. Taking a while to update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazimiera
If you would like. That would be cool. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepulp
I say Celtic because he seems to be Atlantic dominated and also pulls towards the south-west. Although his East_Euro and South Baltic scores are more typical of the Irish, so i'd guess overall hed be most similar to the Cornish and Irish.
Update. I'll add family & New Worlders later.. :) It's getting there. Want to get the shape correct. If I can crack it, could push further.
http://imageshack.us/a/img803/5179/mapeuro.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Interesting how one of the Irish is so far east, have seen that with a couple of them in previous plots i think?
Very good PCAs.
You added something which made me shift east. I'm not sure if it was Aragon, Italians or Armenia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I'm changing the clusters also..Had to take out some outliers, which I'll add again, some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Delarge
So far it looks ok, needs adjustments. Better than the maps, McDonald fella makes..
Right I'll add in the New Worlders again. Tonight. :)
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/3717/map2o.png
Orangepulp where is your Uncle from? :)
Can you add this Chuvash guy for the next run Graham? :) He got very interesting results imo.
Code:K36:
Volga-Ural 26,84%
Siberian 16,00%
Fennoscandian 14,09%
Eastern_Euro 13,38%
North_Caucasian 8,09%
East_Central_Euro 4,88%
South_Central_Asian 4,79%
Central_Euro 3,18%
French 2,98%
East_Central_Asian 1,24%
North_Atlantic 1,24%
East_Asian 1,23%
South_Asian 0,80%
Amerindian 0,68%
Pygmy 0,34%
North_Sea 0,21%
K12:
Volga-Ural 34,20%
Siberian 18,52%
South Baltic 12,43%
North Sea 11,17%
Western European 7,37%
Caucasus 6,19%
South Asian 4,44%
East Asian 4,42%
North Amerindian + Arctic 1,23%
I did have some Volga & Chuvash they were East of Finland & were outliers at the time. But I've made some adjustments, so it should be fine.
Thanks a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
He is American of British and Irish ancestry, he may have other Euro input I'm not sure.
This is what he got from Mcdonald:
Most likely fit is 100% English (Western Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The location error = 0.005115 with 1 group
The following are possible populations,
most likely at the top:
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 1.000
but there is some Continental European or perhaps a very tiny bit
of Mideastern ... and a clear 0.4% African.
Doug McDonald
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7158/chrm1.png
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1755/plot2.png
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2138/plot1.png
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This is what his father got:
Most likely fit is 100% English (Western Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The location error = 0.002573 with 1 group
The following are possible populations,
most likely at the top:
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 1.000
and that’s about it, well maybe just a little Continental, maybe,
and yes, clearly 0.4% African.
Doug McDonald
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/4...ll20130412.png
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4...ll20130412.png
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4...ll20130412.png
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4...ll20130412.png
Have you tested the whole Orangpulp clan? :P
Need to see If I can change the colours, like on that map. Mine is more Scandinavian friendly than McDonald's.
Lol Almost!! I'm actually awaiting my grandparents and cousins results :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Awesome map. Although i wonder why my father and grandfather are where they are, that is curious. Makes perfect sense for my mother and grandmother though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Currently I have it in 6 segmentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
North West Central Europe
N Atlantic, N Sea, France & Central Europe
South West Europe
Italy, Spain & Basque
West Med
West Med & N Africa, currently using all of Africa.
N Eurasia
Fennoscandia, E.C.Europe, E.Europe, Volga, Siberia & the Far Eastern nations.
Caucasus
Armenia, N Caucasus, W Caucasus
S Eurasia
East Balkan, East Med, Arab, Near East & South Asian Nations
Your Mum scores higher in S Eurasian, pulling her down.
Last map for tonight. Added some more..
http://imageshack.us/a/img849/1530/map3p.png
^^ Looks like I'm the centre of gravity.
Closest to North France, South England most Likely. Expect mixes to be like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
Thanks for adding me back in, even if I'm still all out there on my lonesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I've never been one to 'cluster' with anyone, really. ;-)
Could always add you more than once and make an Otto cluster. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto Prohaska
And I'm usually near you and Kadu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Delarge
Or maybe we could just DNA test my army of clones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
Drat! No one was supposed to know about my army of clones...
Oh no!! Poor Otto! :puppy_dp:
The German, is that today's united Germany, West Germany, East Germany?? Which part of Germany?
Looks like one is eastern German, given the position of the northern German.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazimiera
I hope Gedmatch will be up soon! I have to test my distant Uyghur relative with K36 :D