Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

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Originally Posted by Leto

I think I already asked you - is Russian media more popular in Moldova than Romanian? I mean from the countries.

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Both are popular.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

We was under Russian Empire and Soviet Union, here happen process of russification in the past, plus the Russian media, music, TV is still very popular here. Before I move to urban area, I didn't know any Russian. In you case, is the opposite, I don't remember Romania to be under some Gypsy Empire, but Romania is very cucked by Gypsies today, were Romanians use many words of Gypsy origin in their language, and they are more than 20-30, plus some are not slang, but common words. Feel the difference.

In Moldova exist Gypsies too (50-100.000), but I don't see Moldavians to use Gypsy words.

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make a list of those gypsy words you claim you hear, let see if it gets over 30.

this is just an excuse used by anti-unionists, moldovenists - I heard it a billion times and it's based on nothing.

make the list, put up or shut up.

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Originally Posted by Leto

50-100,000? The census said 12k in 2004 and 9k in 2014. Do they declare themselves Moldovans?

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Some yes, some can declare as Ukrainians and even Russians, some don't declare their identity at all. But they are more in the country.

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Originally Posted by Leto

African American English influences the speech of non-Blacks through urban subculture. Since the Tziganes are sort of the Blacks of Romania, I thought their "gangsta" influence would be stronger.

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nope. 20 to 30 gypsy words is all Romanians can understand, after having gypsies here for almost a thousand years.

this tells you everything you need to know about the amount of contact Romanians had/have with gypsies.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

Like I said, people in Chisinau are bilinguals, they mix Romanian and Russian when they speak to equally bilingual speakers. Many Moldovans in the Republic are native level Russian speakers.

This is not the case with Romanians. Romanians know shit about the gypsy language. 20 to 30 gypsy words, that's all they know, and all of these words are slang, not recommended to use with people you don't know.

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Thanks for teaching me about my city. You can now go back and re-read what I said.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

nope. 20 to 30 gypsy words is all Romanians can understand, after having gypsies here for almost a thousand years.

this tells you everything you need to know about the amount of contact Romanians had/have with gypsies.

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I guess the Romani language is pretty much dying out. It's like in Spain - only a few slang words have survived plus improper grammar and pronunciation.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

make a list of those gypsy words you claim you hear, let see if it gets over 30.

this is just an excuse used by anti-unionists, moldovenists - I heard it a billion times and it's based on nothing.

make the list, put up or shut up.

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This don't have anything to do with moldovenism, just simple facts.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I guess the Romani language is pretty much dying out. It's like in Spain - only a few slang words have survived plus improper grammar and pronunciation.

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Yeah, it is, at least in Romania, but probably in R. Moldova too. Our Gypsies usually have Russian as their native language believe it or not.

Here's the proportion of Gypsies in each county in Romania, who can speak the Roma language

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...omania.svg.png

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Thanks for teaching me about my city. You can now go back and re-read what I said.

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maybe i didn't read you right,

but the amount of Russian use in Chisinau is incomparable with the handful of gypsy words Romanians understand.

how many Moldovans understand Russian? maybe half, I don't know.

but certainly no Romanian understands Romani, none.

Gypsies in Russia, from what I've heard myself, use a mixture of Romani and Russian among themselves. They're not full Russian monolinguals.