Macedonian Gedmatch kits - 28

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Originally Posted by djipon

I'm literally her distant relative on my father's side, lol. She obviously can't have constructive conversation with Bulgars, as they lived in the Medieval Age. One should consider that conversations can be held without somebody "brainwashing" the other, or whatever you assume happened.

I think it is common knowledge that Macedonians and Bulgarians are in fact close to each other/can score each other interchangeably. And nobody is talking politics or anything - just the two populations. The same way Bulgarians and Romanians score each other. My closest population on illustrativeDNA and most calculators is either North Macedonian or Bulgarian. Sadly, the only ones that refuse to admit the closeness (nobody talks about identity here) are North Macedonians.

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I don't think Bulgarians have profiles like this but however of all other south slavs you would be closest to them.

Target: MarijaK_scaled
Distance: 2.6500% / 0.02649991
66.2 Old_Balkan
10.6 East_Med
10.4 Old_Slavs
8.0 Volga_Basin
4.8 Early_Germanic


Target: Macedonian_Jegunovce_scaled
Distance: 2.5330% / 0.02532968
70.8 Old_Balkan
22.0 Old_Slavs
7.2 Keltic_Central_Euro

Target: K_scaled
Distance: 3.1194% / 0.03119361
60.8 Old_Balkan
19.4 Old_Slavs
8.8 Volga_Basin
7.2 East_Med
3.8 Early_Germanic

G25 coordinates of a Torbesh girl

Torbesh_girl_scaled,0.117238,0.140143,0.017725,-0.011628,0.020927,-0.009203,0.00376,-0.000231,-0.006545,0.014579,0.003248,0.002698,-0.005946,-0.001239,-0.017779,0.005834,0.017993,-0.001014,0.005154,-0.006503,-0.009483,-0.001607,0.007765,0.000361,-0.010658

Are Torbeshi considered Macedonian Muslims the same way Pomaks are Bulgarian Muslims, or they have their own identity?

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Originally Posted by NdvBal

G25 coordinates of a Torbesh girl

Torbesh_girl_scaled,0.117238,0.140143,0.017725,-0.011628,0.020927,-0.009203,0.00376,-0.000231,-0.006545,0.014579,0.003248,0.002698,-0.005946,-0.001239,-0.017779,0.005834,0.017993,-0.001014,0.005154,-0.006503,-0.009483,-0.001607,0.007765,0.000361,-0.010658

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This person has some Turkish ancestor it seems. Gets about 1/8 European Turk.

Macedonian

Kit TM2705694

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.99
2 Baltic 22.11
3 East_Med 20.35
4 West_Med 20.02
5 West_Asian 10.5
6 Red_Sea 2.05
7 Siberian 0.99

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.64
2 Romanian 4.1
3 Serbian 7.81
4 Greek_Thessaly 8.37
5 Tuscan 12.44
6 North_Italian 12.81
7 Moldavian 14.12
8 Italian_Abruzzo 14.31
9 Central_Greek 15.28
10 West_Sicilian 15.48
11 Hungarian 15.88
12 East_Sicilian 16.51
13 Croatian 16.74
14 Austrian 17.87
15 Ashkenazi 18.34
16 Portuguese 18.9
17 South_Italian 19.32
18 French 19.37
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.6
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.81

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

TM2705694,23.99,22.11,20.02,10.5,20.35,2.05,0,0,0. 99,0,0,0,0

Distance to: TM2705694
1.69905856 Albanian_Montenegro
1.98499370 Macedonian_North
2.93141604 Macedonian_East
3.00141633 Macedonian_Central
3.16022151 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
3.79027703 Bulgarian_Southwestern
4.04018564 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.07001228 Greek_Florina
4.15136122 Macedonian_South
4.22698474 Romanian_Oltenia
4.27003513 Romanian_Muntenia
4.50178853 Aromanian
4.51748824 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.70880027 Romanian_Dobruja
4.74208815 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.74778896 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.88494626 Montenegro_SouthEast
5.18640531 Albanian_Kosovo
5.40505319 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.43484130 Serb_KosovoMetohija
5.45633577 Romanian_Banat
5.52941227 Bulgarian_Southeastern
5.82782121 Gagauz
6.12820528 Romanian_Transylvania
6.14326460 Albanian_North_Albania

Macedonian

Kit QD2083013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.36
2 East_Med 23.67
3 North_Atlantic 22.08
4 West_Med 16.85
5 West_Asian 8.33
6 Red_Sea 2.78
7 East_Asian 1.05
8 Amerindian 0.36
9 South_Asian 0.35
10 Oceanian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.59
2 Romanian 5.95
3 Serbian 8.7
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.12
5 Moldavian 14.4
6 Tuscan 14.99
7 Italian_Abruzzo 15.87
8 Central_Greek 16.03
9 North_Italian 16.42
10 Hungarian 16.52
11 West_Sicilian 16.72
12 Croatian 16.82
13 East_Sicilian 17
14 Ashkenazi 17.23
15 Austrian 19.43
16 South_Italian 20.13
17 East_German 21.28
18 Portuguese 22.21
19 French 22.33
20 West_German 22.67

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

QD2083013,22.08,24.36,16.85,8.33,23.67,2.78,0.35,1 .05,0,0.36,0.18,0,0

Distance to: QD2083013
5.13341017 Bulgarian_Southcentral
5.17974903 Macedonian_North
5.44150714 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.47254968 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.77432247 Greek_Florina
5.85445130 Romanian_Muntenia
5.87016184 Pomak_Bulgaria
5.92780735 Aromanian
6.01152227 Romanian_Dobruja
6.15887977 Bulgarian_Southwestern
6.21478881 Albanian_Montenegro
6.23093091 Serb_KosovoMetohija
6.44768175 Romanian_Oltenia
6.50076149 Pomak_Greece
6.50359132 Gagauz
6.51033025 Macedonian_South
6.74332262 Bosniak_Sandzak_East
6.86073611 Montenegro_SouthEast
6.96200402 Moldovan_South
7.00871600 Bulgarian_Northeastern
7.19637409 Romanian_Banat
7.40837364 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.53138102 Macedonian_Central
7.61522816 Romanian_Transylvania
7.62897765 Romanian_Moldavia_South

A Macedonian with ancestry from Pelagonia and Ohrid

Kit SB5534115

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.95
2 East_Med 23.42
3 Baltic 18.23
4 West_Med 16.98
5 West_Asian 11.13
6 Red_Sea 2.32
7 Amerindian 1.29
8 East_Asian 0.65
9 Siberian 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.3
11 South_Asian 0.24
12 Sub-Saharan 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.68
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.82
3 Romanian 7.3
4 Tuscan 10.3
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.87
6 Serbian 10.88
7 North_Italian 12.44
8 West_Sicilian 12.55
9 Central_Greek 12.71
10 East_Sicilian 13.77
11 Ashkenazi 15.14
12 South_Italian 16.39
13 Moldavian 17.76
14 Hungarian 18.38
15 Portuguese 18.97
16 Spanish_Extremadura 19.78
17 French 19.88
18 Spanish_Galicia 20.13
19 Austrian 20.16
20 Croatian 20.27

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

SB5534115,24.95,18.23,16.98,11.13,23.42,2.32,0.24, 0.65,0.42,1.29,0,0.3,0.05

Distance to: SB5534115
4.98343255 Aromanian
5.00070995 Macedonian_South
5.11526148 Albanian_Montenegro
5.31493180 Albanian_Kosovo
5.33670310 Macedonian_Central
5.51584082 Greek_Florina
5.62688191 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.74225565 Albanian_Macedonia
5.89636329 Macedonian_North
6.21122371 Greek_Thessaly
6.39035210 Turkish_Macedonia
6.44897666 Torbesh
6.54452443 Greek_Epirus
6.91269846 Bulgarian_Northeastern
6.92895374 Albanian_North_Albania
6.98981402 Albanian_South_Albania
7.03055474 Macedonian_East
7.08694575 Greek_Thrace
7.10783371 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
7.48802377 Bulgarian_Southeastern
7.53877974 Bulgarian_Southcentral
7.63814768 Greek_CentralMacedonia
7.92219035 Bulgarian_Southwestern
8.11779527 Gagauz
8.18826599 Bulgarian_Northcentral

Macedonian from Bitola and Resen

Kit NZ7764648

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 23.72
2 East_Med 19.94
3 West_Med 19.07
4 West_Asian 17.55
5 Baltic 16.04
6 Red_Sea 1.43
7 Amerindian 1.3
8 East_Asian 0.86
9 Siberian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 8.45
2 Bulgarian 8.92
3 Romanian 9.68
4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.23
5 Tuscan 11.77
6 Central_Greek 12.07
7 West_Sicilian 13.32
8 Serbian 13.57
9 North_Italian 13.62
10 East_Sicilian 13.82
11 South_Italian 15.83
12 Ashkenazi 17.3
13 Moldavian 19.23
14 Portuguese 20.5
15 Hungarian 20.7
16 Spanish_Extremadura 20.75
17 French 21.42
18 Spanish_Galicia 21.45
19 Spanish_Cataluna 21.81
20 Spanish_Andalucia 21.84

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

NZ7764648,23.72,16.04,19.07,17.55,19.94,1.43,0,0.8 6,0.09,1.3,0,0,0

Distance to: NZ7764648
6.83041726 Bulgarian_Moldova
7.14149144 Albanian_Kosovo
7.58097619 Macedonian_Central
7.94142934 Greek_Laconia_Karitsa
8.01364461 Bulgarian_Southeastern
8.08703901 Turkish_Macedonia
8.09445489 Bulgarian_Northeastern
8.19873161 Greek_Epirus
8.30835724 Greek_Thrace
8.31302592 Aromanian
8.34483673 Macedonian_South
8.42823232 Greek_Thessaly
8.66863888 Albanian_Montenegro
8.87735884 Greek_CentralMacedonia
9.01785451 Greek_Florina
9.13102951 Torbesh
9.16841317 Greek_West
9.18001089 Albanian_Central_Albania
9.19143623 Greek_Achaea
9.22555689 Macedonian_North
9.50830164 Albanian_North_Albania
9.51285972 Albanian_Macedonia
9.56248399 Macedonian_East
9.60195813 Gagauz
9.68257714 Greek_Euboea_South

Macedonian from Ohrid

Kit A356451

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.09
2 Baltic 21.51
3 North_Atlantic 20.54
4 West_Med 17.63
5 West_Asian 10.96
6 Red_Sea 2.96
7 Amerindian 1.01
8 Oceanian 0.99
9 East_Asian 0.27
10 South_Asian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 4.52
2 Greek_Thessaly 5.9
3 Romanian 6.92
4 Serbian 10.88
5 Central_Greek 12.6
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.78
7 Tuscan 13.23
8 East_Sicilian 13.8
9 West_Sicilian 14.01
10 Ashkenazi 14.71
11 North_Italian 15.77
12 Moldavian 16.52
13 South_Italian 16.9
14 Hungarian 19.02
15 Croatian 19.37
16 Austrian 21.67
17 Italian_Jewish 21.75
18 Algerian_Jewish 21.9
19 Sephardic_Jewish 22.03
20 Portuguese 22.48

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

A356451,20.54,21.51,17.63,10.96,24.09,2.96,0,0.27, 0,1.01,0.99,0,0

Distance to: A356451
2.76669478 Aromanian
3.24692162 Greek_Florina
3.80732189 Macedonian_South
4.34619374 Greek_Thrace
4.44787590 Gagauz
4.47304147 Macedonian_North
4.77694463 Bulgarian_Southcentral
4.87184770 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.97272561 Turkish_Macedonia
5.01361147 Albanian_Macedonia
5.17272655 Albanian_Montenegro
5.42476728 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.46763203 Bulgarian_Moldova
5.52879734 Greek_West
5.54497069 Bulgarian_Northcentral
5.71540025 Macedonian_Central
5.72740779 Bulgarian_Northeastern
5.75472849 Greek_Thessaly
5.80348171 Greek_Epirus
5.93495577 Pomak_Bulgaria
6.08979474 Pomak_Greece
6.27808888 Albanian_North_Albania
6.30303895 Torbesh
6.38025862 Albanian_Kosovo
6.46073525 Greek_Achaea

Macedonian from Ohrid

Kit A572241

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.77
2 Baltic 22.54
3 North_Atlantic 20.36
4 West_Med 18.82
5 West_Asian 11.07
6 Red_Sea 2.91
7 Siberian 0.53
8 Oceanian 0.46
9 Amerindian 0.42
10 East_Asian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.26
2 Romanian 5.91
3 Greek_Thessaly 6.49
4 Serbian 9.97
5 Central_Greek 13.43
6 Tuscan 13.66
7 Italian_Abruzzo 13.68
8 East_Sicilian 14.68
9 West_Sicilian 14.85
10 Moldavian 15.36
11 North_Italian 15.65
12 Ashkenazi 15.93
13 South_Italian 17.79
14 Hungarian 18.26
15 Croatian 18.28
16 Austrian 20.93
17 Portuguese 22.28
18 East_German 22.86
19 Algerian_Jewish 22.88
20 Italian_Jewish 22.94

Vahaduo distances (updated spreadsheet):

A572241,20.36,22.54,18.82,11.07,22.77,2.91,0,0.11, 0.53,0.42,0.46,0,0

Distance to: A572241
2.53063233 Aromanian
2.55323324 Greek_Florina
3.09833826 Gagauz
3.15852814 Bulgarian_Southcentral
3.17029967 Macedonian_North
3.45152140 Macedonian_South
3.77361895 Bulgarian_Southeastern
4.08690592 Bulgarian_Northcentral
4.26920367 Greek_Thrace
4.28868278 Albanian_Montenegro
4.40792468 Pomak_Bulgaria
4.71214389 Bulgarian_Northeastern
4.90178539 Bulgarian_Moldova
4.92348454 Macedonian_Central
5.19710496 Pomak_Greece
5.22442341 Bulgarian_Southwestern
5.22687287 Albanian_Macedonia
5.33689048 Romanian_Muntenia
5.61613746 Romanian_Dobruja
5.64008865 Greek_CentralMacedonia
5.65375097 Turkish_Macedonia
5.75428536 Bulgarian_Northwestern
5.81884009 Greek_West
5.93431546 Albanian_North_Albania
6.14211690 Albanian_Kosovo