Does anyone know or got an idea how to add your own cluster to the k36 DIY files? :) Would be interesting to make a Scandinavian cluster imo.
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Does anyone know or got an idea how to add your own cluster to the k36 DIY files? :) Would be interesting to make a Scandinavian cluster imo.
Hello Everyone,
I am new here and here are my K36 results from the Eurogenes calculator at GEDmatch. Are these the results that the map being made are based on? If so is it possible for me to be included? I am of mixed European background being 25% Italian (Calabria region), 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British Isles. Here are my K36 results below.
Population
Amerindian 0.11%
Arabian 0.15%
Armenian 4.52%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.85%
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.89%
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 1.57%
East_Med 0.22%
Eastern_Euro 8.11%
Fennoscandian 26.79%
French 5.89%
Iberian 10.67%
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 10.29%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 2.02%
North_African -
North_Atlantic 2.95%
North_Caucasian 3.23%
North_Sea 13.79%
Northeast_African -
Oceanian 0.24%
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 1.97%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 1.74%
I used a few from the Forumbiodiversity for my map(if any ask, I'll stick their user name in)..I'll add you as soon as I can confidently get this correct...Same with other New-Worlders...It's just a muck about, but good fun doing.. :P
http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3314/map11u.png
The Asian, is stretching the map! Noooooo. lol That's why Su is down there, same with the Norn Russians.
Me too! Me too! :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Denmark is a little to close for my liking :P
May I be included? My Eurogenes K36 Admixture Proportions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 5.68%
Armenian 15.79%
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 24.06%
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.61%
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 22.11%
North_African -
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian 13.06%
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 3.30%
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 6.97%
West_Med 2.42%
Cool map, it seems to have been ironed out a bit more in NW Europe. My nan is looking ultra Celtic. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Yeah, I put North Atlantic, Basque & France into one segment. To make a more Western Atlantic part. Then stuck Central, North Sea & Finnic to make a North East.. to Split it apart. Iberia is on it's own, I may add West Med to that. It seems like the East West split to the South, Starts at Italy & West Med.
I'll add, the New Worlders in, only when I'm very sure. I feel it's not right to show someone from say America, the wrong piece of information.. Old worlders kind of know, where they aught to be.
I know how the mapping system works now, and how to put what where. Need to change a few things. So the map will improve again.
Running my parents though DIYdodecad right now.
I'm worried about over-fitting with some, but your results seem ok. You'd fit in fine.. I'll add you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru
I'm going to try and split the Georgian from the Turkish..next. Bring it a little North.
Anyone with say 30% Amerindian don't ask, haha.
I appreciate it, I have a question. Do you know specifically, what causes "overfitting"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Yes, unique clusters on the map..That none else has.. Like if you were the only one with South Asian. It would put you on the far periphery & stretch the rest.
I'm looking for trends. Like Turkey tends to go from Italy to South Central Asia in the South. Italy would have a good deal of ancestry from it's East, but not into South Central Asia. Iberia keeps away from it more-so, with more North African.
My Mum's Results..Her ancestry Is Scottish, Northumbrian & Shetlander.
22.70% North_Sea
16.95% North_Atlantic
11.43% French
9.16% Iberian
8.01% Fennoscandian
7.53% East_Central_Euro
5.98% Central_Euro
6.69% Italian
4.54% Basque
4.97% Eastern_Euro
1.29% North_Caucasian
Yup sure sounds good thank you very much! :)...My username is CA1 in the Eurogenes Project so you can use that as my name on the map if you wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Your name is so short anyway..Everyone should now have short names. lol
Dad's result K36 ancestry is Scottish & Cumbrian.
19.98% North_Atlantic
19.13% North_Sea
10.95% French
10.20% Italian
8.72% Iberian
8.69% Eastern_Euro
7.83% Central_Euro
5.88% Basque
4.81% Fennoscandian
2.58% East_Central_Euro
1.16% Armenian
I just took a look at my own DIY calculator results for K36 and compared them to my GEDmatch K36 results (which I posted here). I noticed some very small minor differences. Does it really matter much which version we use for the map then?
Aye, I used the first test I seen, whatever.. It's hard to know the difference, In mine it's tiny.
Ya the differences are very small for mine as well. Probably does not matter much. I was just wondering. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Interesting results for your parents Graham. It's interesting how it matches your known ancestry, or seems to - Your father seems more Celtic and your mother more Anglo-Scando.
Did you add them to your PCA?
Yeah my dad sits like North West-Central Britain, North of Albion. Mum is Near me, to the North-Central East Britain, towards West Norway, North of your Dad who is South-Central East Britain.
Your Gran is say Wales. Your mum, Granddad & yourself are far South East England..Into the Germanic nations.
Using my imagination with the map locations, so far.
My mum and I are the most North East for any Brit/Irish. For me makes total sense.
Now it's back to the what i'm used to see. I'm on the eastern part of the iberian cluster closer to italians. I'm not sure what caused this sudden shift, but my guess is ITNorth, which wasn't there before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I lumped North African in with the Middle East & South East Europe. Gonna stick Sardinia with Iberia together. I have Basque, North Atlantic & France together as a Western Atlantic front, with Iberia on its own currently. :P The reason you are more East is your East Central Euro & middle Eastern parts..Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Delarge
Those without the Berber, are going to push the most West.
Interesting, it does make sense in all matters now - Better than the last plot. My Aunt will probably end up near me, or between me and my mother. Makes sense for my Grandmother, although she shows a slight north-east pull, her south-west pull is twice as strong according to oracle x, and overall she comes out a bit southwest of the English average usually. Her ancestry is 1/2 Cheshire, 1/2 London (with roots going deeper into London, Hertfordshire and i think Devon) and the Cheshire half is right from the coast near Liverpool, so probably a mix of all kinds of folk. There's also a rumor of Welsh ancestry in there although it hasn't showed up in any of the genaeology yet, so it may be further back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
If i can i'd love to get my grandfather's sister tested, although i'll have to do it soon i fear. My Grandfather is basically 7/8 eastern/south-eastern English (from Hertfordshire, Suffolk, Norfolk, Essex, Sussex, London) and 1/8 or 1/16 Irish (his mother said there was Irish in their family, and it shows up in Oracle x, but i haven't found genealogical confirmation yet, it's there i'm sure of it).
My mother is 1/2 Kentish 1/2 British Isles Megamix (Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Northumberland, Scotland - I think south-west Scotland - Pembrokeshire (south), Hampshire). So i think her position makes sense.
All the positions can be well explained in my view, at least for my family.
Graham, what ethnicity would say I am genetically closest to, based on these maps you have made? A mix like mine is supposed to be closest to Ashkenazis and Sicilians, but I seem to be a bit more Northern than them on your maps.
Great work Graham! Keep it up man! :D
Oh and thanks for the warm welcome here Jackson! :)
Hang around Graham and Jackson. They will make you famous! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
Now where are the rest of us in your map? come on, move it, move it!
GEDmatch.com is online again and requires membership from now on.. Also upload functions are seem to be temporarily disabled until about May 10..
Looking through some of results for France I have. It's quite clearly another North Atlantic variation... From Ireland to Austria.
11.73 Uk
11.43 Graham Ma
11.02 Ire
10.95 Graham Da
10.42 Ire
10.34 Ire
9.79 Albion
9.77 Graham
9.61 Palla
9.44 Noricum
9.30 Ire
8.96 PapGd France
8.54 JacksonGran
8.41 JacksonDad
8.34 Drogin
8.29 Nld
8.20 Nrw
8.12 Alpine
8.03 EvGran
7.87 Nrw
7.62 Frn
7.60 FrnNE
7.56 Jackson
7.53 FrnSE
7.39 Ire
6.81 AlpineCelt
6.79 Pap France
6.73 DrgnDa
6.64 A.Delarge
6.55 Atl.Isl
Thought I would add my friend to this thread also...
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FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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19.19% East_Central_Euro
15.04% Central_Euro
14.54% North_Sea
11.73% Eastern_Euro
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9.63% Iberian
9.39% North_Atlantic
8.60% Fennoscandian
4.00% Italian
3.01% French
1.68% Basque
1.65% East_Balkan
1.55% West_Med
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0.00% Amerindian
0.00% Arabian
0.00% Armenian
0.00% Central_African
0.00% East_African
0.00% East_Asian
0.00% East_Central_Asian
0.00% East_Med
0.00% Indo-Chinese
0.00% Malayan
0.00% Near_Eastern
0.00% North_African
0.00% North_Caucasian
0.00% Northeast_African
0.00% Oceanian
0.00% Omotic
0.00% Pygmy
0.00% Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% South_Central_Asian
0.00% South_Chinese
0.00% Volga-Ural
0.00% West_African
0.00% West_Caucasian
My dads EUTest PCA result... any other Norwegians or Finns with similar results?
http://i40.tinypic.com/339ou0z.gif
I did another 2D PCA for myself today and the results were totally different to the last time. :confused:
Although this time it makes much more sense.
EUTest
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...ps871eaf20.png
JTest
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...ps71048c41.png
Some of my plots from the EUtest/Jtest.
http://imageshack.us/a/img833/8046/2dpcaplot2.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/9165/2dpcaplot6.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/7809/2dpcaplot7.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img823/2161/2dpcaplot8.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img526/9098/2dpcaplot9.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6121/2dpcaplot10.gif
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/3053/jtestpca123.png
Dissimilarity graph, i think this is good enough for grouping neighbours..
http://abload.de/img/k13_turks_mfa_21cucq.png
^^^^
What part of Turkey is Su from? Noticed her ancestry, is more spread out than others, on K36.
Centralsouth+Southern..Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
She clusters with southerns and west southerns..
annihilus=tr4;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Graham how is the map coming along bro?
I'm already itching for another K run, haha.
nope, TR4 is Xyresic's grandmother :p You and Partizan have only part Anatolian Turkish Ancestry so you are in the same branch doesnt surprise me..Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilus
This time i added non-Turkish Anatolians+ a Maniot Greek and Georgian, notice how Kurds and Armenians cluster eachother..
http://abload.de/img/k13_mfa_anatolia_9pupc.png