Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

Btw, isn't it interesting borders of fantasy Great Serbia correspond with borders of Ottoman conquest in western Balkans?

Remains of Croatia under Ottoman pressure
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...i_ostataka.jpg

Borders of Great Serbia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...via%29.svg.png

Hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Lol no. His Dalmatian Croat side is probably most southern shifted. Hvar has strong Med/Romance admixture. His father probably shifted much more north, and he looked assordingly.

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Croats have 0 percent "med"/italian genes let alone "strong" and his bosniak grandfather probably plotted like Bosniensis

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Originally Posted by Maintenance

yes you are

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Obviously not since your intentions are extremely easy to read. Orthodox dog.

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Originally Posted by Ford

Bosnian church was never widespread among the lower classes and only briefly among the nobles.

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This may be true, but I brought it up so I can show that Bosnians are as old an ethnic identity, with their own institutions, as both Croatians and Serbians, and it's dishonest to real history to claim them as nothing more but Croatians or Serbians. For example Bosnia appears a lot in Medieval Hungarian history and they were always called Bosnians.

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

I will add Croat Bosnian academic (also from 4 kits for some reason) tomorrow...

But please I want to see more results using K15 now. After ph2ter addition especially Italy is interesting.

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there is more of them.
there is 11 of them here:
https://evolbio.ut.ee/khazar/

you could divide them into Bosnia and Herzegovina(their names end with H or HZ in the .fam file)

could you add Romania Gorj? i posted it a few pages back

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Btw, isn't it interesting borders of fantasy Great Serbia correspond with borders of Ottoman conquest in western Balkans?

Remains of Croatia under Ottoman pressure
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...i_ostataka.jpg

Borders of Great Serbia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...via%29.svg.png

Hahaha.

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Nice off topic just to start fights, stupid autistic bitch

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

I already gave proof how disgusting orthodox religion that spreaded west with Turks, not the opposite. There are much more Croats who became Servs, than the opposite.

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Orthodox Christianity is the oldest Christian tradition and isn't synonymous with Serbia at all. If any historical country should be picked, it would be the Byzantine empire. Shall I remind you that the biggest Eastern Orthodox church is Russian, not Serbian. Also I doubt you have much against Romania, Bulgaria or Greece and how they believe, don't you. So that's definitely the wrong choice of words.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Don't play fair here, I am asking why was Serb academic sample removed on Serbs demand, and it contain much more people than Bosnian Serbs average?
Lukasz said it is to be removed because it's too Romanian like and Serb members called it outdated.

Bosnian_Serb average is too Croat-like and is also outdated. So why should it be treated differently from academic Serbian sample?

You have no answer. Now bugger off.

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SerbianBosnia is shifted towards us, Northeast Euro, you call it Croat-like, I can say that it is more Ukrainian-like or Moldavian-like.

You discuss and focus on eurogenes k13, but EUtest remains untouched, nothing was removed from there.
Also eurogenes k13 appears to be inferior calculator than eutest for Europeans. Grace, CelticDragon, ph2ter, me, one Belarusian posted by Leto, Dusan, Ford and many others got more accurate results on eutest. At least this is how we perceive it according to our recent known ancestry.

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Originally Posted by ProudBrit

Croats have 0 percent "med"/italian genes let alone "strong" and his bosniak grandfather probably plotted like Bosniensis

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No. His grandfather looked like Swede compared to that Vlach. Croats from Hvar have strong Med admixture, and my paternal grandmother was Gracile Med in phenotype.
Don't speak about things you have no clue about. Hvar is island where Romance population is present since antiquity.

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

Some more K13 averages:

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Albanian,21.07,17.56,23.81,11.15,23.81,1.62,0.25,0.07,0.15,0.13,0.17,0.00,0.00
Algerian,13.95,0.61,24.25,0.00,27.47,14.21,0.00,0.31,0.12,0.10,0.39,8.89,9.66
Danish,48.13,28.42,11.20,4.88,3.64,0.68,1.07,0.07,0.93,0.45,0.25,0.16,0.10
English,49.96,23.98,13.57,5.83,3.30,0.62,0.85,0.13,0.22,0.35,0.38,0.13,0.13
German_east,36.93,36.50,12.59,5.57,4.79,0.78,0.69,0.09,0.30,0.78,0.55,0.15,0.20
German_West,45.37,25.20,13.22,7.02,5.78,0.85,0.30,0.58,0.39,0.37,0.11,0.35,0.14
North-Dutch,51.14,26.48,10.78,5.58,2.75,0.38,1.17,0.02,0.38,0.22,0.22,0.10,0.02
North-Swedish,44.53,36.23,6.25,3.95,0.66,0.40,1.26,0.39,4.94,0.62,0.60,0.09,0.14
Scottish,52.74,22.77,12.06,6.59,1.74,0.62,1.28,0.04,0.43,0.97,0.40,0.07,0.04
Slovakian,29.47,38.84,11.90,5.00,8.64,2.35,1.09,0.00,0.94,0.88,0.64,0.07,0.18
Slovene,30.66,34.00,14.71,7.03,9.92,1.18,0.72,0.32,0.46,0.51,0.32,0.10,0.07
South_Dutch,44.59,22.22,15.74,6.01,7.37,1.47,1.05,0.20,0.84,0.24,0.02,0.09,0.16
Swedish,48.45,30.99,9.81,3.64,2.43,0.84,1.41,0.21,0.68,0.56,0.40,0.32,0.23
Swiss_French,37.79,20.53,19.52,7.90,10.97,1.49,0.27,0.26,0.44,0.44,0.36,0.04,0.00
Swiss_German,40.15,22.01,17.27,6.58,10.31,1.90,0.08,0.28,0.25,0.52,0.29,0.29,0.09
Swiss_Italian,36.35,15.43,23.16,2.81,18.65,2.71,0.26,0.00,0.41,0.00,0.18,0.08,0.00
Welsh,51.09,22.22,15.85,6.86,0.43,1.18,0.40,0.58,0.00,0.74,0.38,0.17,0.12

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Kaikavian_Croatian,23.50,17.22,18.47,17.04,9.49,8.05,5.21,0.37,0.48,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.00

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Added, except Slovakian and Slovenian. I think those academic which I added are ok.