Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Our Gypsies usually have Russian as their native language believe it or not.

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Yes, Russian language is very popular between Gypsies here.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I guess the Romani language is pretty much dying out. It's like in Spain - only a few slang words have survived plus improper grammar and pronunciation.

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I have no idea if Romani is dying out or not, but Romanians certainly are not familiar with it by any stretch of imagination.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

This don't have anything to do with moldovenism, just simple facts.

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do not avoid the question.

do Romanians know more than 20 or 30 Romani words or not? if yes, compile the list of words.


and yes, this bullshit that Romanians are mixed with gypsies and Romanian has gypsy words are pillars of Moldovenism. you push this nonsense everyday.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

maybe i didn't read you right,

but the amount of Russian use in Chisinau is incomparable with the handful of gypsy words Romanians understand.

how many Moldovans understand Russian? No Romanian understands Romani, none, zero.

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Just because everyone understands Russian, doesn't mean that they will suddenly start speaking in Creole.
Nobody mixes French with Romanian, even though it's mandatory for 5 years.
That's why I said, that the extent to which Russian is used when speaking in Romanian is usually limited to simple interjections and slang.
Sometimes, people might forget a word in Romanian and replace it with Russian, but that depends on the person.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Just because everyone understands Russian, doesn't mean that they will suddenly start speaking in Creole.
Nobody mixes French with Romanian, even though it's mandatory for 5 years.
That's why I said, that the extent to which Russian is used when speaking in Romanian is usually limited to simple interjections and slang.
Sometimes, people might forget a word in Romanian and replace it with Russian, but that depends on the person.

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Usually what CIS/ex-Soviet peoples borrow from Russian is disgusting profanity - it's bad enough in Russian but in other languages many times worse. Years ago there was a video from Afghanistan, a local boy would have lived among Latvian NATO soldiers and learned to speak "Latvian". Guess what? He used блядь in every other sentence.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Just because everyone understands Russian, doesn't mean that they will suddenly start speaking in Creole.
Nobody mixes French with Romanian, even though it's mandatory for 5 years.
That's why I said, that the extent to which Russian is used when speaking in Romanian is usually limited to simple interjections and slang.

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It's more than that. The moment you set foot in RM you hear words like marshrutka etc.

However, Romanian used in RM is improving every day, in another generation it will be indistinguishable from that in Romanian Moldova.


anyways, the point was that Moldovans current knowledge of Russian is incomparable greater than Romanians knowledge of Romani. I see no way one could deny this. Romanians simply don't understand Romani at all.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Before I move to urban area

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Did you move to Balti or Chisinau? I'm curious to know if people from the districts in the North bother to settle in Balti or if they mostly choose Chisinau.
I've never seen the town properly, but always from the periphery, when I used to visit my great-grandparents in Briceni.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

It's more than that. The moment you set foot in RM you hear words like marshrutka etc.

However, Romanian used in RM is improving every day, in another generation it will be indistinguishable from that in Romanian Moldova.

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If mass immigration of guest workers to Russia and by extension to Ukraine continues, the Russian influence won't fade but will only increase. When like half a country has to look for work in another country, it's really a no-brainer that the host country is gonna have a lasting influence on migrant speech.

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Originally Posted by ixulescu

unless he's a gypsy, he won't know more than 20-30 gypsy words.

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I don't think you understand - Bucharest speech, lingo or whatever you call it sounds gypsy influenced. That doesn't mean that they use Gypsy words, it just sounds horrible.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Did you move to Balti or Chisinau? I'm curious to know if people from the districts in the North bother to settle in Balti or if they mostly choose Chisinau.
I've never seen the town properly, but always from the periphery, when I used to visit my great-grandparents in Briceni.

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Chișinău, but now I am not in this city. Some of course go to Bălți too, but most of people choose the capital.